loony Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 I bet if I make a comment on what you two are probably doing here in public I will get banned.
JS17 Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 I bet if I make a comment on what you two are probably doing here in public I will get banned. gloating and mysogenising? Every time I think that I'm too crazy for this world I'll come back and read this thread to remind me of how sane I really am. 1
Touche Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 Uh...am I missing something JS and Loony? I honestly didn't understand your comments?????????????
Touche Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 I bet if I make a comment on what you two are probably doing here in public I will get banned. I don't get it? What are we doing? Agreeing with each other? Is that now a crime on LS...I came on here disagreeing with him and ended up agreeing. What's so wrong with that? Please explain. And I was only JOKING about the lesbian comment...wasn't really serious!
lilmoma1973 Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 I absolutely agree with everything you said BUT the reality is, is that there are just as many doormat women being used and abused by men. Those of us who are doormats, need to stop and grow a spine. And those of us who mistreat the opposite sex need to stop. It's that simple. BOTH sexes are guilty of bad behavior. Why confine your remarks to just women? Totally agree with Touche !! Great post Touche!!
lilmoma1973 Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 I don't get it? What are we doing? Agreeing with each other? Is that now a crime on LS...I came on here disagreeing with him and ended up agreeing. What's so wrong with that? Please explain. And I was only JOKING about the lesbian comment...wasn't really serious! It's all for fun !! I've been accused of being with someone on here!! People think just because you having fun you sleeping with someone !! geesh!!
Touche Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 Well thanks for the explanation...the humor escaped me.
sparticuss Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 ? It has gotten to the point where I even hear some feminists say they miss real men. Of course radical feminists have spent the last 30 years doing everything they could to neuter men but that is another thread. . Not so Woggle. Those sexist manhaters have hidden like the cowards they are, under the skirts of the feminist movement for the last hundred years. But they are anything but feminists. Here's a true feminist test. Little girls are allowed to play with "boys toys" like tonka trucks but little boys are not normally allowed to play with girls toys, like baby dolls. Is this sexism, or is there a valid reason. (Most so called , feminists, fail this test.)
Nicholas Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 It's a paradox that the manliest of men see women as enemies.
sparticuss Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 BOTH sexes are guilty of bad behavior. Why confine your remarks to just women? For a very good reason Touche. Because only in the face of this sort of confrontation do people like you even admit that there is such a thing as husband bashing. Out there, in the girls nightout, in the street, absoloutely everywhere else, wife bashing is only discussed as if that were the only form of domestic violence. This sort of confrontation shouldn't be needed before the issue of husband bashing is also faced. But it is.
Nicholas Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 If you want to change the world, don't start with loveshack.org. We want to be last on your list. 1
sparticuss Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Um, point out a thing that is not misogynist. Child child child! Go back and read the thread properley. sentence by sentence. Woggles little speech is , just about a word for word copy of speeches made by Gloria Stienham and Dr Martin Luther King some thirty years ago when they were saying that women and blacks needed to grow a spine. But I gues you havent been stuying your history classes well enoug to know that. This has nothing to do with misogny.
sparticuss Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Why didn't you name your thread "Men and women need to stop being doormats?" I mean read all the threads on this site...don't you see as many women being taken advantage of and being doormats as men? No touche. Actually I don't. I see a lot of postings from women CLAIMING that they have been abused. But when I post back requesting specific details of that abuse all that is posted is a lot of meaninless waffle abotu how "awful he was to me" or how "terrible he's left me feeling". Hello! She's in a rotten mod cause she's in a rotten mood. Give me specifics please. 1
loony Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 I need to correct my previous statement about guys on LS. There is a third group, some really nice smart guys, but they are way too few. The irony of such a thread is that there are more of them than truly manhating ones. Most women on LS find themselves appeasing and apologizing to another Mr. Nice Guy who doesn't see his fault when his attempts to interact and build up a connection with women fail. Women are the enemy unless they happen to agree with him. On the other hand, how many women here are really out to dominate a man or are bitches?
Author Woggle Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 I am not talking about women on this board I am talking about the men who let women walk all over them. If I ever become like some of the guys on the divorce board just kill me. Seriously put the gun to my head, pull the trigger and splatter my brains all over the place because if I become like these men I would be dead already. I am trying to bring them back from the dead. I say over and over again that I am not misogynist and that if what I say does not apply to a woman she should not take offense. If a woman still takes offense I must have hit a nerve.
loony Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Now I'd like to see other posters jump in and criticize you for generalizing.
Author Woggle Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 Now I'd like to see other posters jump in and criticize you for generalizing. Where am I generalizing? I am actually more progressive than you probab;y think when it comes to men women but I refuse to be a doormat. I don't think women are inferior or weak. In fact many women are very clever and very strong. I just know the games that some of them and I don't fall for it. I heard it all before. That doesn't mean I hate women but I am cautious when dealing with them. If a woman comes to me with honesty and respect I will in turn show it back. I have that gentleman loving side to me but at the same time I can give just as good as I get in the battle of the sexes. In laments terms I treat women the way they treat me. I give back what i get.
loony Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 If I decided to start a thread where I ask women to stop being such doormats and let men dictate their lives, that they shouldn't be such wimps to accept domestic violence - what would the majority of guys on LS say? They would say I was a manhating radical feminist who is generalizing, because not every man treats his woman so badly, bla bla bla blub. What's the purpose of all this stomping around and saying you are not a doormat? I don't walk around and tell every guy, "You know what? I am NOT a doormat, ok, buddy? Did you get this??? I don't let every guy walk all over me. I have a spine. I'm not needy and clingy, because I respect myself" I bet that would convince everybody what a happy self-confident gal I am.
Author Woggle Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 If I decided to start a thread where I ask women to stop being such doormats and let men dictate their lives, that they shouldn't be such wimps to accept domestic violence - what would the majority of guys on LS say? They would say I was a manhating radical feminist who is generalizing, because not every man treats his woman so badly, bla bla bla blub. What's the purpose of all this stomping around and saying you are not a doormat? I don't walk around and tell every guy, "You know what? I am NOT a doormat, ok, buddy? Did you get this??? I don't let every guy walk all over me. I have a spine. I'm not needy and clingy, because I respect myself" I bet that would convince everybody what a happy self-confident gal I am. Go ahead and make the thread. I don't know why you are taking this heart anyway. I made this thread because I saw all these threads where men were just letting their women walk all over them and somebody needed to say it. They are wimps and I am the one to tell them. This is the same thing I say to my friends having woman troubles. Somebody just needed to say it because so many men on this board needed to hear it. I am the brutal honesty that this board needs. If one man reads this and decides to grow a spine I have done my job.
loony Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Go ahead and make the thread. I don't know why you are taking this heart anyway. I made this thread because I saw all these threads where men were just letting their women walk all over them and somebody needed to say it. They are wimps and I am the one to tell them. This is the same thing I say to my friends having woman troubles. Somebody just needed to say it because so many men on this board needed to hear it. I am the brutal honesty that this board needs. If one man reads this and decides to grow a spine I have done my job. Your problem is that you see it as a war where the woman is the enemy that needs to be defeated. If men are wimps, it's because they are victims of women's manipulation and you see yourself as the one who is trying to wake them up and make them realize how crappy they are treated. I'd rather prefer that you tell them to stop making anybody responsible for their own happiness than themselves. Women are not the source of their anxieties and insecurities, neither are they responsible when the guy is clingy or needy.
Author Woggle Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 Your problem is that you see it as a war where the woman is the enemy that needs to be defeated. If men are wimps, it's because they are victims of women's manipulation and you see yourself as the one who is trying to wake them up and make them realize how crappy they are treated. I'd rather prefer that you tell them to stop making anybody responsible for their own happiness than themselves. Women are not the source of their anxieties and insecurities, neither are they responsible when the guy is clingy or needy. Sorry but this is a gender war and women started it. Don't get mad when a man can fight back just as hard. I am not at war with all women but feminists who insist on fighting a war against men will get it back tenfold from me. I am sorry but that is how I deal with life. I am not letting the woman off the hook for behavior that any man would get hung over. I read threads on here by men who blame themselves for their wives cheating or beg their wives not to leave and it makes me shake my head. I hate to see men in this state. If a man's wife cheats on her it is her fault not his. If she is mad at him and he doesn't know what the hell he did she is the one with issues. I am sorry but women are not getting off the hook.
loony Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 I don't have the time nor much interest right now to engage in another meaningless discussion about an alleged world domination by crazy feminists. I can only advise you to be careful where you tread, because with this attitude and lack of self-awareness, you will attract the wrong women and you will end up in another disastrous relationship, because you lack the empathy to understand another person's position.
Author Woggle Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 I don't have the time nor much interest right now to engage in another meaningless discussion about an alleged world domination by crazy feminists. I can only advise you to be careful where you tread, because with this attitude and lack of self-awareness, you will attract the wrong women and you will end up in another disastrous relationship, because you lack the empathy to understand another person's position. I already attracted the right woman. Nobody ever tried to understand where I come from but I do understand other people. That being said sadly this is a dog eat dog world and if I tried to understand every enemy I would get eaten alive.
Touche Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 For a very good reason Touche. Because only in the face of this sort of confrontation do people like you even admit that there is such a thing as husband bashing. Out there, in the girls nightout, in the street, absoloutely everywhere else, wife bashing is only discussed as if that were the only form of domestic violence. This sort of confrontation shouldn't be needed before the issue of husband bashing is also faced. But it is. Uh...hello? I said BOTH sexes are guilty of BAD BEHAVIOR! You just validated my point! We're in AGREEMENT.
Touche Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 No touche. Actually I don't. I see a lot of postings from women CLAIMING that they have been abused. But when I post back requesting specific details of that abuse all that is posted is a lot of meaninless waffle abotu how "awful he was to me" or how "terrible he's left me feeling". Hello! She's in a rotten mod cause she's in a rotten mood. Give me specifics please. I completely agree that the word "abuse" is sometimes thrown around very carelessly. True. But my question regarding why the thread didn't include MEN is still a valid one.
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