are us asian guys losing out in dating scene to WM

[joel]

have any of you asian guys ever chit chatted , are friends with any, or just knew-asian girls who told you "i don't date asian guys" or i'm not attracted to asian guys". what do you say-yes this coming from a asian gurl-you are chinese and she is chinese or what not.

 

from online chat we would chat and i would ask if they were single and this and that-casual stuff -school, sports, hobbies, music , work ......etc. and even online personal chats -4 asian girlsi later asked about their previous bfs-so most of em are asian right-"ah no most were white guys". you now right from that line the asian girls are white washed-i don't date asian guys kind of girl-i mean how can you not have dated one asian guy and live in vancouver-half asian population.

i chatted with said that to me "i don't date asian guys" or "i'm not attracted to asian guys".when i asked why one of em said b/c -they cheated on me, they are a***....etc-which i find are just excuses-b/c white guys can be like that too.asians are more loyal-its our culture.

 

most of these asian gals -from talking to em are also very westernized-born and raised here-but so am i. meet any cbc or americanzed asian girl and i bet ya -a good 50-60% of the time their bf is a white guy.-no joke. its that many.just look around.

 

do you asian guys find that even asian girls are turning you down. or is it just my bad luck or are they just not interested in me-so they say that kind of thing. soo many asian girls are dating out-at my work 2 white co workers guys have asian gfs, bad part of it is white gals don;'t date asian men- very rare-unless you have the money, teh cool group of friends-in crowd, great job, cool ride or what not then ur set, if not good luck. maybe thats why us asians guys always save our money -b/c we have to.

i mean u never hear of black or spanish or e indian women like this-just asian so many of em dating out-its crazy.

[travellingman]

Interesting point. I had a good friend in college who was Korean, and I dated more Asian chicks than he did, and pissed him off to no end. I'm over 6 feet tall, and he's just 5'7", so that might have had something to do with it.

 

Good luck out there, it's definitely easier for us whiteys.

[runner]

so what is this, the angry asian guy sign up thread ?

[Craig]

Well lets consider the numbers Joel. In your age group I would guess that the female to male ratio is about the same. So if more Asian women are dating more white guys there should be an abundance of available white women. Shouldn't there?

 

The bottom line is that it comes down to you, not perceived external limitations.

[Neptune]

Joel , you are just going to have to get some moves like Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan and kick some white butt and get them asian gals for yourself:cool:

[alphamale]

i mean u never hear of black or spanish or e indian women like this-just asian so many of em dating out-its crazy.

i would say about 50% of e. indian women born/raised in US are dating or married white dudes. they say that many of the e. indian men are too nerdy or not masculine enough for them. plus, babies that are half e. indian and half caucasian are usually pretty good looking.

[huh?]

most asian guys i kno date white gurls but maybe not where you live:(

[blue16]

i would say about 50% of e. indian women born/raised in US are dating or married white dudes. they say that many of the e. indian men are too nerdy or not masculine enough for them.

 

I live in the same city as joel, and it's quite the opposite here, actually. I'd say 90-95% of east indian women born in Canada are dating east indian guys as opposed to white guys.

 

And I agree with joel, a good portion of the azn (chinese, japense) girls born in canada are dating white guys. Much moreso than the number of azn guys dating white girls. That being said, I see azn girls with azn guys and white guys with white girls all the time. And to say that it's impossible to date white girls (or cbc girls, for that matter) if you are azn, unless you have money, good job etc. is ridiculous.

[AnotherAsianGuy]

Being another Asian guy, I can attest that most of my female relatives are indeed married to white guys, and from my own experience many Asian girls do prefer white guys.

 

The Asian girls (especially ones born in US) that prefer Asian guys are few and far between. I must say that my last GF was a beautiful, outgoing, Asian girl, who would not date white guys. White guys would constantly hit on her; she would tell me about all the non-Asian guys that had "yellow fever." We broke up because I was not ready to get married.

 

I am now into the dating scene again, and quite frankly my options in finding an Asian girl are indeed limited. I make a mid-six-figure income, have two doctorate degrees, have my own business, drive a 2005 100K car, have a beautiful home, am not short and exercise regularly and keep at ideal body weight. I have had the opportunity to date non-Asian women, but just prefer Asians. I don't even see a single Asian girl (of any age) on an average day where I live.

 

I am now considering going to an Asian country to find a partner, or utlizing matchmaking services in other states where Asians are abundant. I am fortunate in having the resources to be able to do this. I can certainly understand the frustration of Asian guys who do not have such resources. As my former GF would say, it is really sort of odd that an Asian girl will only date white guys. After all her father was Asian.

[SuperMonk]

There's a lot of reasons why some asian girls date out of race:

 

1. They're too ugly for asian men

2. They're too white for asian men

3. They had a bad relationship with their asian father

4. In most cases, the white man is usually someone degenerate (weak) in his own dating game that white girls reject him he sees asian women as a second choice. For the asian women, they must enjoy being the second choice. Trust me, The White Woman is seen overwhelmly around the world as the attractive figure compared to a non-white woman.

5. They want to date someone who is trophy, like a White man it doesn't matter if he's dorky or is inferior to some Asian men out there - as long as he's White that counts.

 

Don't fret about this, I've seen too many Asian Female/White Male relationships to make this judgement and it's mostly correct. Now Asian Male and Female Female relationships, that's a whole different story and no I don't have a double edge sword. I see those relationships as more genuine than the Asian mystery woman with the White man conquerer.

[Lucasarts]

cant say that i agree wit u there supermonk

 

but hell i only date white chicks hahahaha

 

yes i am an asian guy, i dont have any real problems with asian girls, its just that the hot ones are always taken...plus i was raised white so i guess i prefer white?

[Lights]

Angry Asian Man™ signing up for the thread here.

 

My overall advice: Throw the trash away, and then don't worry about it. (Just writing it quickly up front, because this post is the length of the Bible.)

 

As far as my personal experiences go, I've never had such problems directly. I leave ethnic tribalists and their kind behind outright, and go where I feel the need to go, regardless of anyone's color.

 

I personally don't have any limitations on races or the like, provided there's at least one language in common. As I like to say, ice cream's not the only thing that comes in 31 flavors.

 

However, as far as race-based rejection goes, there may not necessarily be any way of knowing if it's necessarily race-based--in my experience, most females I've encountered or witnessed in similar situations regardless of their race simply are neither articulate enough in the local language(s) nor thoughtful enough to come up with something like "[Your name], I actually think you're [cute/friendly/funny/whatever that applies], but being seen around someone not of my [race/tribe/cultural background/degree of language facility/ethnically-associated sociocultural identity: pick one] means death to my social life, and I can't live with that." Sometimes, however, if it's a situation where the person is visible over time, their behaviors around other people of different races make it obvious.

 

For the asian women, they must enjoy being the second choice. Trust me, The White Woman is seen overwhelmly around the world as the attractive figure compared to a non-white woman.

 

This is actually something I've not thought of. There's definitely something to that though--until the media made it known that multiracials were to be considered "hot", they were always harassed pretty brutally by both/all their cultures, and until quite recently, Whites were considered the standard of beauty in many cultures. (For a non-Asian example, some people in other cultures have in the past used the phrase "mejorando la raza" [improving the race] to describe marrying a person of lighter complexion or more prominently White ancestry.)

 

In ancient times, the matter of Asian men being considered less desirable by Asian women was a matter of what SuperMonk brought up, and of the fact that the Asian women of the time stood to gain something by accepting dates with White man versus an Asian man--the appearance of successful cultural assimilation. In other words, a White boyfriend made them feel more American, which was something that having an Asian boyfriend could not offer. (Interestingly, for whatever reason this has always been portrayed as White versus Asian. Blacks are also considered more "American" than many Asian-Americans, but this hasn't been studied so much by those interested in Asian race relations for some reason.)

 

I don't see why things like either of the above would still happen in more modern times, but this doesn't appear driven by logic anyways.

 

Joel , you are just going to have to get some moves like Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan and kick some white butt and get them asian gals for yourself

This is the most sickeningly racist, repugnant garbage I've seen in quite a while. Get lost.

[melgirl]

bad part of it is white gals don;'t date asian men- very rare-unless you have the money, teh cool group of friends-in crowd, great job, cool ride or what not then ur set, if not good luck.

 

actually.....im a white girl who's dating an asian guy, and not for the reasons above (no great job, NO ride..haha)...but i do see what you mean my relationship is a rare one...not sure why

[Lucasarts]

bad part of it is white gals don;'t date asian men- very rare-unless you have the money, teh cool group of friends-in crowd, great job, cool ride or what not then ur set, if not good luck.

 

um actually i have no problems and i am usually broke b/c i spend all my money on god knows what (not porn). I think the stereotype of asians being quite/shy works against us here cause most white gals like a loud, raucous, rambunctious type of guy. Or at least a person who they can talk to. And thats important: girls LOVE to talk (well most of em do).

 

oh and white girls do date asian men, i know cause thats all i have dated so far. i like asian girls too but they always got a white guy, and comin from a pretty white society i live in, asians are a rarity whether it be male or female. And the reason i'm broke? i'm a starving artist, and i guess that works to my advantage cause chicks dig art.

[Lifestream]

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread...but why does race matter? We're in the midst of globalization, date whoever you want.

 

And I don't know if I believe those stereotypes listed above. It feels more like anecdotal evidence if you ask me.

[loony]

Joel, I don't want to sound too nasty, but I can imagine that most of the reasons why a girl doesn't want to date you have nothing to do with you being Asian. I think it's true that a lot of Asian women tend to date white men, but in your case I think there are a lot of other reasons and blaming it merely on your race is a lame excuse. There are a couple of things you could do to improve your chances with girls, but you seem to be very resistent to really invest energy in this project. Lamenting, complaining and blaming the girls seems to be the easier way. Easy ways often don't lead to happiness though.

 

As my former GF would say, it is really sort of odd that an Asian girl will only date white guys. After all her father was Asian.

Would this mean you want to date someone like your mother?

[Lifestream]

Very Freudian

[Lifestream]

Sorry for the double post but I really don't like the whole "White Guy" bit. If you think in terms of black and white then that's all you will be able to see. I'm not "white." I am Caucasian descent, but I am Canadian. White, brown, yellow, black. I am Canadian.

[loony]

I am Caucasian descent

The term "Caucasian" in my opinion is also weird. What is it supposed to mean when you are "Caucasian"? As far as I know the Caucasus is a mountain chain. In Europe nobody ever uses this term for white and I also don't see why "Caucasian" should be more PC.

[Lifestream]

I agree, but I couldn't find a better term...

[breebree]

don't worry. asian guys have pretty white girls like me.

[Johendkdd]

Please treat people like individual. Life is limitless, so don't limit yourself.

[Lucasarts]

^ tru dat

[Mary3]

What I have observed : ( not trying to stereotype here but its what I actually notice )

 

Hot asian women like going out with handsome wealthy white men.

 

Unattractive asian women don't seem to get anyone interested.

 

Handsome Asian men date white women ( like me ) alot. I have dated numerous Asian men but they need to be handsome. I am not attracted to tiny book~ wormish Asian men.

 

I rarely see Asian men with Asian women unless they are an old retired couple.

 

I dont think I ever see handsome Asian men with gorgeous Asian women on their arms.

 

Each picks ( white ) to go out with.

[Altaira]

Actually this really handsome, tall and rugged Asian American guy, owns a restaurant, who I had a crush on turned out to be married to a an attractive Asian girl, same background (northern Chinese).