Davidh290 Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 I have the best intentions but I don't ever get anything right with girls and I don't know what to do... I am hopeless I am the nice guy and I don't have a single shred of game or any way to better myself....
alphamale Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 talk with A_C...he'll help you out. he's got plenty of "game"
Devils Advocate Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 are serious about persuing women (american predominately) you will have to change a great deal about who you are percieved to be and how you interact. For the begining however I would recommend changing who you look at and how you value the women you desire. Start off by researching Ladder Theory, it will start you in the right direction to be more successful with the opposite sex. BUT you will be required to make some changes and many of them are unpleasant for true niceguys to embrace.
Art_Critic Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 talk with A_C...he'll help you out. he's got plenty of "game" ..... More like A_C is starting to smell a little Gamey
Yamaha Posted December 15, 2005 Posted December 15, 2005 There may be some women who are just as hopeless as you so don't give up *hope*
archbean Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 don't change who you are. "it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."... whoever said that has it right. if you meet someone after you make whatever changes you would, you'll always be wondering if it's you they like or your new image.... i would hate to live like that, always in doubt. just be yourself, and someday someone will see the honesty and general goodness that you have, so, like yamaha said, don't give up
Walk Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 don't change who you are. "it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."... whoever said that has it right. if you meet someone after you make whatever changes you would, you'll always be wondering if it's you they like or your new image.... i would hate to live like that, always in doubt. just be yourself, and someday someone will see the honesty and general goodness that you have, so, like yamaha said, don't give up Not true. This is basically telling the guy that getting some self-confidence, and a better self-esteem is wrong. That making any changes within yourself to gain desired outcomes is subversive and untruthful. It's not. It's called finding the problem areas within ourselves and improving them so that we can get ahead in life. You might as well tell a high school student that going to college is a waste, because employers should love you for who you are. Change can be good. If you find that your way of dealing with people, opposite sex in specific, isn't getting the desired outcome, then find those areas within yourself that you feel need improvement and improve them! Women are most attracted to men with confidence. No amount of "Game" will garner you the attention of a woman if you don't show you have confidence. You can be the "bad" boy, and get a certain type of woman, (usually with no self-esteem) but that's probably not what you want. However, if you find that your communication skills are holding you up, or maybe a fear of rejection, then work to overcome these. I don't love a lot of people for who they are. I've met some men who could be attractive, if they spent an ounce of their time working to be a better person. Instead, they sulk around and try to act like the sterotypical "bad boy" they feel woman are attracted to. They just come off as asses. Pathetic asses. And they still don't get any dates.
Devildog Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 This is basically telling the guy that getting some self-confidence, and a better self-esteem is wrong. That making any changes within yourself to gain desired outcomes is subversive and untruthful. Agree completely. Besides, who says working on being more self-confident is changing you? Does having some self-esteem and confidence suddenly change everything else about you? Does being confident mean you no longer hold the door open for a lady? The "nice guy" is actually a balance of self-confidence and manners. He can be kind and considerate, chivalrous at times, but still has enough self-esteem that he will not allow a woman to take advantage of him. Confidence does not have to equal jackass.
archbean Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 there's nothing wrong with making changes for the better, i agree. but what i menat is that someone shouldn't act like who they aren't, shouldn't do things just to get a date, if what they do just isn't part of who they are. like acting like "the bad guy", if you're really a nice person.
lilmoma1973 Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 talk with A_C...he'll help you out. he's got plenty of "game" LOL!! Alpha i thought you was the man about women not AC!!
lilmoma1973 Posted December 16, 2005 Posted December 16, 2005 ..... More like A_C is starting to smell a little Gamey ROFLMAO!!
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