alphamale Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Exactly, become a pick up artist and live happily ever together like Alpha... beats sitting around on Saturday nites watching re-runs of Nip/Tuck and jacking off
JS17 Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 And I know that the way I am going now is not really healthy. You just answered your own question. Start thinking about you instead of her.
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 they do WOGGLE, it is genetically imbedded in thier DNA. They may say they don't want to be dominated by men but watch how they behave when they are dominated by men. Actions say everything and words mean little. Very true. Women can't be attracted to a man they don't respect and most sensitive men are not respectable. The other thing is that I noticed the strong independent types are the ones with the strongest desire to be dominated. They are used to being miss tough independent woman all day so they want to go home and be dominated. I actually had a female executive admit that to me. When strong independent women marry they don't marry some wimp they marry a man just as strong and independent as they are or even more so.
JS17 Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Are they really honest, JS17? Don't you think "bad boys" are often just men who have cultivated negative or disordered traits in an attempt to seem more interesting? I'm rethinking that, actually. That would be some women's version of a bad boy...but I don't think it would be yours. Right lindya, that's not my version of a bad boy. Right now I'm dealing with a very immature guy who has been honest with me about having a lot of women going after him. I don't have any respect for him but it's entertaining. I'm not interested in being his one and only and if that thought ever crosses my mind even once I'll back out. It's just for fun.
Art_Critic Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Women can't be attracted to a man they don't respect and most sensitive men are not respectable. I agree that women can't be attracted to to a man they don't respect.. guys are the same way.. But I do disagree with your statement that sensitive men are not respectable.. That is a ridiculous statement
johan Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 But I do disagree with your statement that sensitive men are not respectable.. That is a ridiculous statement I'm with you, Art. Woggle really hurt my feelings!!
loony Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 t watch how they behave when they are dominated by men. I get really pissy and most of the time I think the guy is a moron.
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 I agree that women can't be attracted to to a man they don't respect.. guys are the same way.. But I do disagree with your statement that sensitive men are not respectable.. That is a ridiculous statement I have my sensitive side but I also have a spine to protect it. Most sensitive men don't have that spine. I may come across as a jerk but I have a really nicer and tender side to me that i don't let out to often. One of the reasons It is going so well with my current girlfriend is that I feel free to show that side of me and she will truly appreciate it. At the same time if it goes south I know not to crya nd never to beg her for love. I will always maintain my self repsect and that last part is what many guys get wrong.
Outcast Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 DAMN! For a few days, we were machismo-free and the discussions were interesting and enlightening. Now we're back to the same, old, tired crap. Can we interest a few of you in going off and starting your own forum: MisogynyMythShack? Two single guys going on about how to get women. Woggle, you're not going to persuade me that you treat this woman you're besotted with that way. It's all bull. The women who stick with men like this, are the women you see posting here saying 'I thought love/sex/marriage would change him'. Gents, you are just male fixer-uppers. Don't be thinking you've got the upper hand. What you end up with is pathetic women who haven't the self-respect to ditch jerks. Some big prize And you can't possibly respect anyone who allows you to mistreat her. So right there you end up with women you don't want. This makes zero sense.
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 I get really pissy and most of the time I think the guy is a moron. Because you are dealing with chest beaters and not real alpha men. A real man can dominate a woman and she doesn't even know she is being dominated.
loony Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Because you are dealing with chest beaters and not real alpha men. A real man can dominate a woman and she doesn't even know she is being dominated. Awesome, Woggle, now women are even too stupid to recognize it when some smartass is trying to manipulate them.
Outcast Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 A real man can dominate a woman and she doesn't even know she is being dominated. A real woman lets a man like that think he's dominant because the only way he survives is to live with his head up his own butt.
johan Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 People may not believe this, but here it is: I, too, have a nice, tender side. I like long walks on the beach in the moonlight, and quiet evenings by the fire eating ice cream and reading "men are actually from venus, too". I know I come across as real gruff and bad, but there's a hidden inner bunny just waiting to leap into the arms of some loving wench! Who here will receive my bunny??
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 DAMN! For a few days, we were machismo-free and the discussions were interesting and enlightening. Now we're back to the same, old, tired crap. Can we interest a few of you in going off and starting your own forum: MisogynyMythShack? Two single guys going on about how to get women. Woggle, you're not going to persuade me that you treat this woman you're besotted with that way. It's all bull. The women who stick with men like this, are the women you see posting here saying 'I thought love/sex/marriage would change him'. Gents, you are just male fixer-uppers. Don't be thinking you've got the upper hand. What you end up with is pathetic women who haven't the self-respect to ditch jerks. Some big prize And you can't possibly respect anyone who allows you to mistreat her. So right there you end up with women you don't want. This makes zero sense. You are right that I don't repsect them and that is why I am now with a strong woman that would never put up with that crap. We respect each other.
Art_Critic Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 So you only treat women like crap if they let you?? Interesting.. I'd hate to be her when she lets her guard down and you crush her You are right that I don't repsect them and that is why I am now with a strong woman that would never put up with that crap. We respect each other.
JS17 Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 In an impartial anonymous forum it's very easy to spot the men who act like jerks sometimes but are probably pretty decent guys and the ones that have some serious issues.
loony Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 People may not believe this, but here it is: I, too, have a nice, tender side. I like long walks on the beach in the moonlight, and quiet evenings by the fire eating ice cream and reading "men are actually from venus, too". I know I come across as real gruff and bad, but there's a hidden inner bunny just waiting to leap into the arms of some loving wench! Who here will receive my bunny?? I want a picture first, I don't buy a pig in a poke.
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Awesome, Woggle, now women are even too stupid to recognize it when some smartass is trying to manipulate them. Not all women but many women are like that. Many women are smart in every area of their life except relationships. Like I said the easiest women to dominate are the strong independent types. Look at Hillary Clinton. A senator that is being discussed as a possible 1st female president and she stays with a serial cheater.
loony Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 In an impartial anonymous forum it's very easy to spot the men who act like jerks sometimes but are probably pretty decent guys and the ones that have some serious issues. Let's exchange our lists! Who is a decent guy and who is in dire need of professional help?
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 So you only treat women like crap if they let you?? Interesting.. I'd hate to be her when she lets her guard down and you crush her She has earned my respect. Once a woman earns my repsect I treat her accordingly. It's not about her letting her gaurd down or not. She is living with me right now and we are discussing marriage, For it to get to that point I have to respect her.
Outcast Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Let's exchange our lists! Who is a decent guy and who is in dire need of professional help? NO!! STOP!! AUGH!!! It would turn into another 'popularity' thread and disintegrate into another flame war!!
Art_Critic Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Look at Hillary Clinton. A senator that is being discussed as a possible 1st female president and she stays with a serial cheater. Not a good example woogle.. she controls him..he is the weaker one.. Of course you are assuming that she has never cheated on him
Author mrB2006 Posted December 11, 2005 Author Posted December 11, 2005 So, a strong-willed independent woman would never be with a sensitive, intelligent, and quiet guy? My 'friend' in question is very independent and strong-willed. That is just one reason why I respect her. mrb
Woggle Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 Not a good example woogle.. she controls him..he is the weaker one.. Of course you are assuming that she has never cheated on him Oh really. She needs him more than he needs her. He is more popular than she is. Any self respecting woman would have left him after the Monic thing but she stayed.
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