Provocative women asking to be raped?

[a4a]

And about the title of the thread - how can anyone ask to be raped? Surely the very act of asking gives consent

 

The title of the thread refers to some peoples way of speaking about women who they like but cant have. example: "she wants it", "you know you wanted it", "shes looking to get bent over", "shes asking for it"...etc

If a woman has little clothes on, even if she has no thoughts of sex on her mind some guys see her and assume thats what she wants......hence the thread title!

 

 

Again I don't think clothing has a whole lot to do with how a rapist picks victims. Not one person should be blamed for being raped. But a person has to do their best to avoid any situation that could lead to rape, assault, ect.

 

A judge who pins rape on the victim needs to be swiftly removed from the bench and put into a cell and buggered by inmates until he sees the error in his thinking.

 

a4a

[Outcast]

but when a woman goes into the real world wearing see-through clothing and nothing underneath, right or wrong, she is asking for trouble

 

Once again, you are assuming that all, or even the majority, of rapes are foisted on women dressed like that and that rape is a sexual crime. Neither is true therefore if the assumptions on which you base your argument is untrue, your argument has no merit.

[Judas Christian]

I'm not assuming anything of the kind, Outcast. I'm responding to the post regarding the woman in see-through clothing and the judge throwing her case out. I said nothing about all or even the majority of rapes. The argument absolutely has merit. The case should not have been thrown out - the judge was wrong on that point. I do think, however, that it is reasonable for him to question her judgment and actions (in dressing that way) when she is as aware as anyone else that predators are out there. It doesn't mean that such crimes are only commmitted against scantily-clad women, but it does mean that a woman dressed in see-through clothing is seriously raising her risks exponentially.

[lindya]

I do think, however, that it is reasonable for him to question her judgment and actions (in dressing that way) when she is as aware as anyone else that predators are out there. It doesn't mean that such crimes are only commmitted against scantily-clad women, but it does mean that a woman dressed in see-through clothing is seriously raising her risks exponentially.

 

What risk is she raising? Is she raising the risk of being raped, or is she just raising the risk of not being taken seriously in court if she does get raped? Or both?

 

Perhaps you should spend a day being a 20 year old young woman looking for appropriate party clothes. Try finding yourself an attractive outfit that wouldn't be likely to get labelled "provocative" in the dry and stuffy confines of a court room. That wouldn't be dismissed as "sluttish" by a bunch of completely out of touch old boys who are itching to debate the extent to which a woman wearing such clothes might be "rather low grade".

 

Stupid to wear "sexy" party clothes whilst walking alone at night in an undesirable area of town? Why would any intelligent woman do such a thing? Life happens. People have arguments with friends/partners and find themselves walking home alone. Or they leave a party early because they don't feel well/have to be up early the next day and don't want others' nights to be cut short on their account. Or maybe they're just not particularly enjoying themselves. Maybe they leave, and find that there's no public transport or it's impossible to get a taxi. Sometimes there's no option but to walk. Alone. In a sexy outfit. And yes - the chances are that young woman will have had a few drinks at that party.

 

That is normal life for normal women, and it doesn't justify violent assaults being visited on them. Say you're walking home from a party on your own wearing a t shirt with the name of your favourite football team on it. You get beaten up and then sodomised by a bunch of thugs who support a different team. Surely you would have a right to see your attackers brought to justice without the t shirt you were wearing getting dragged up as a relevant consideration which possibly reduces your credibility as a witness...or mitigates the crime you were subjected to?

 

I absolutely hated the film Irreversible - but you should watch it. I understand that a number of people threw up/walked out when that film was premiered. Some of them hardened male film critics. Perhaps they preferred to carry around in their heads the eroticised versions of rape that the porn industry dishes up. Versions where "a low class bitch in slutty clothes gets what's coming to her." Watch Irreversible. Nasty as it is, it's a rare example of a male director "getting" rape and showing it for the ugly and vicious thing it is. Not kinky sex - but, rather, a serious and highly traumatising assault in which sex acts are incorporated as a further means of harming and humiliating the victim.