brittanyjean259 Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 when i say karma, i dont necessarily bring the religion with it, but do you beleive, what goes up must come down, if some one has hurt you, will they experience the same kind of pain, i do beleive "what comes around goes around"... what do you beleive?
guest97234502435 Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 Karma is our way of dealing with an unjust world - we have to beliive that somehow bad people who have good things happen to them will be punished (usually in another lifetime, since it rarely seems to happen in their lifetime!)
RecordProducer Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 Hitler was responsible for the death of millions of people. He graciously killed himself. Did he get what he deserved? In my opinion - no. He couldn't possibly get what he deserved, I think.
Author brittanyjean259 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Posted November 15, 2005 well thats because he killed himself
Author brittanyjean259 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Posted November 15, 2005 back than it would have been hard for" things to come back to him", how could all his power die out so easily any way? bring the scenario down a notch ( still do you think some of it can be true)?
Pyro Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 when i say karma, i dont necessarily bring the religion with it, but do you beleive, what goes up must come down, if some one has hurt you, will they experience the same kind of pain, i do beleive "what comes around goes around"... what do you beleive? From my experiences, I do believe in karma. We may not see it or hear about it, but it happens to those who deserve it. I think that everyone who deserves it will get it back in some way, shape, or form. It may not happen right away, but I believe that it will.
Skeered Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 my belief is that everything happens for a reason...wether it be karma or just a test of life. I do believe that if you harm someone, steal, kill, or destroy or anything else bad that something will come back at you. On a side note as far as the hitler comment if you believe what the bible (sorry for the "religious" comment don't want to offend) says about suicide is you go straight into damnation and directly to hell...I definetly feel he's getting exactly what he deserves for what he did..
Nikita20 Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 I fully believe in karma. What comes around, goes around. However, I don't wish any ill will against my ex. That would be bad karma. I only wish him the best. Speaking of karma, yesterday, I got an another email from his mom again. It wasn't emailed exclusively to me, but to a list of 10 recipients, my ex included. It was a message from the Dalai Lama expressing his thoughts for 2005: Instructions for Life: Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. When you lose, don't lose the lesson. Follow the three R's: Respect for self, Respect for others and Responsibility for all your actions. Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly. Don't let a little dispute injure a great relationship. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it. Spend some time alone every day. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll be able to enjoy it a second time. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation for your life. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with the current situation. Don't bring up the past. Share your knowledge. It is a way to achieve immortality. Be gentle with the earth. Once a year, go someplace you've never been before. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for each other exceeds your need for each other. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon. A very powerful message, don't you think? I just wanted to pass this to you fellow loveshackers so that perhaps you can apply this in your lives.
Author brittanyjean259 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 thanks for the replys, i do beleive people get " what comes around"...it does take time, but time goes by very quickly, and i dont wish any karma on anyone, i just want i guess you can say for this girl to feel the hurt one day that i felt the day me and my ex broke up.
In Sync Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 I do believe in karma, so I am coscious of how I treat others..but perhaps i must have done something bad, because if I am hurting now from my experience I've started to wonder did I deserved this to happen to me. Did I do something wrong to someone and this is my payback. I mean if one thinks of karma as something that could eventually comeback to you..maybe all of this is somehow brought on as a result of some actions of mine?
Author brittanyjean259 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 not necessarily because bad things can happen to good people, its something i think every one goes through, regardless of what you did...things dont end because you did something bad, its random of course....maybe that relationship was ment to end any way, but it still can fall under" what comes around goes around"...
NatoPMT Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 I dont believe in karma My reasons are: 1) If you believe in karma you try to be a good person, because at whatever level you believe if you arent then you will have some retribution, religious, circumstancial, spiritual or whatever. I believe you should do the right thing because its the right thing to do, not because of any punishment if you dont. 2) I dont like the idea that if someone does you wrong, they will get cosmic justice. I feel that if someone does you wrong, you should be able tpo accept it and let it go rather than consoling yourself they will get theirs by some way or mean. Revenge isnt something i want to buy into, not that i dont feel like that sometimes, i dont like feeling like that so i choose to reject that way of thinking BB
lindya Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 not necessarily because bad things can happen to good people, its something i think every one goes through I agree with that. If there's such a thing as karma, perhaps it relates more to our ability to cope with those bad things and somehow get through them. Most people must, at some point, go through an experience that makes them stop and question themselves. Something that makes them ask "what kind of person am I really?" Blinding flashes of self awareness. Maybe the people who've done the cruellest or most heartless things don't get that until just before they die. At a time when it's much too late to right any of the wrongs they've done, or to make any sort of peace with the people they've hurt.
Author brittanyjean259 Posted November 17, 2005 Author Posted November 17, 2005 yeah karma has so many view points, lately thats how ive been thinking, and seeing the world...oh dont do that karma will hit you, i do the right thing not because it will come back to me , but i just do the right thing sometimes because thats who i am( im defiently not perfect though and can do stupid stuff)...... i think since were talking about karma in a group where usally people with heart aches talk to,,it be considered a sign of hope. you should just be a good person , the best you can be..but i do beleive" what comes around goes around"...that is true lol i dont care what anyone says and if not, every1 gets theres in life any way....maybe not because they did wrong...who really knows.... and if karma is true, and when people get theres....i dont want them to also" get pain, i want them to look back at what they did wrong" and say i know how it feels not that im wishing pain on anyone
Lishy Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 I think that believing in karma is a good thing (I absolutely believe in it ... and have seen it many times!) Believing in karma makes us switch a situation around and see it from another angle, thus allowing us to make better judgements on how we conduct ourselves. After all, we all feel our own pain!
scobro Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 My ex's first husband cheated on her during their honeymoon and then he gets her best friend pregnant and leaves to be with her.Years later he is in an auto accident and his leg gets mangled. My ex had some guy interested in her and when we split up the first time she was out with him having sdinner drinks etc..my ex and I got back together and he still pursued her I had to phone the guy and tell him to leave my wife alone....2 months later he is paralyzed from flipping his friends sports car over on the highway. So is this Karma or coincedence who knows
chocolate_boy Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 **** dude, that's some pretty HARSH Karma for those "crimes"... Don't p.iss your ex off anymore
lilmoma1973 Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 I totally believe that what goes around comes around!!! The way you treat people will come back and haunt you!! my mil always have tried to cause problems in my marriage and it finally is coming home to her!! H dad sister's can't stand her and think she is after his money and she will call telling me this and i think see you will get yours and she is and revenge is sweet so glad she gettting it now and knows how it feels!!!!
Brittanyjean06 Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 if not karma, than peoples consiounce( how ever you spell that), will get to them.....and if not that.....than" what comes around goes around".
konfuzd Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 I think that modesty prevents many people from taking credit for the great things that happen in life, and pride prevents taking accountability for the bad. Karma was created as the scapegoat for these emotions... Too much is read into the reasons things happen, and not into enjoying the moment, or learning from the mistakes and moving on.
Author brittanyjean259 Posted November 19, 2005 Author Posted November 19, 2005 yeah but people are saying karma is for people who help them get through there pain or whatever... you can beleive in karma, without using it as a necesaity to get through tough times. you cant always put up the" karma feild" when something bad happens..but you can still believe in it when you see it. sorry if i dont make sence...
NrclptcNSmniak Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 hmmm.... i'm actually one of those complete non-believers ... heh... eventho im a pastors... grandson.... i really do believe that life has no reason to it at all. things happen completely randomly. nothing has any meaning what-so-ever. (just to clarify... im not trying to preech my don't believe in anything philosophy... i really do admire those who can believe... i'm just not built that way...... makes things much tougher heh....) bad things happen and good things happen. not because you deserve it... but just because it does. even with religion, why are we here?.... what purpose does the human race serve. we are just a tiny, infinitely small ball of matter wandering around the ever growing universe, waiting for it to collapse upon itself again( at least according to that one big bang theory... which im not really sure what to think of.....) bah.... anyway... i guess what i'm trying to say is... what that one guest wrote. looking back at what you've been through it seems almost impossible for you to be where you are. it seems that if any 1 thing were to change, the life that you know would be completely different. we use ideas like karma and predestination and such, to help sort out the meaning behind this course of random events that lead you to where you are. some people need purpose, and a feeling of order. when you think about it, the uncertainty of life can really be a frightening thing. in my opinion things have to happen. whether it be one way or another, something is going to happen. exactly what happens is up to almost random chance. although nothing is predestined, you yourself don't have control of your life. everything you do is linked to other people and the decisions they make, and the decisions that other people made that influenced them, and so on, and so forth.
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