mini696 Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I suggest putting up with condoms for the first few times, but suggest getting tested as soon as you feel comfortable. I personally would not be offended.
Neptune Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Anyone having sex today outside of a commited realtionship should update their knowlege of STD`s. It`s estimated around 20% have HSV 2, which is genital herpes. It is now know that people can contract herpes and not have symptoms. They can also SPREAD herpes without symptoms through a process know as viral sheading which means they are contagious around 15% of the time. Most STD testing does NOT include testing for genital herpes. And that is just the tip of the iceberg!
kitkat826 Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I am a little more PC than ALPHA but I agree with the concept. I hate them and more times than not, between the unwrapping, checking to make sure they are the right side out, rolling them on, andso forth, Mr. Happy goes away. Hmmm. None of the young, strapping men that I've been with have had this problem. I don't see it as valid enough to stop me from protecting myself. You know what's really a mood killer? A guy's dic* banging into your cervix and you trying to calculate the statistical probablity that he's carrying something (most men don't have symptoms of anything).
Gold Pile Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 everyone will die when their time is up....plane crash, car accident, cerebrovascular accident, heart attack, lightning strike, AIDS, ;.....whatever. Life is too short to worry about that crap. I could get hit by a car walking out of the office bldg tonite... It won't be a BMW my friend:)
CurvyGurl Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Use of a condom not only prevents transmission of STD'S but also PREGNANCY. If you're willing to be come a parent by accident, have sex without protection. A general rule that I hear a lot is a new couple having sex should use a condom for the first three months at least. I wouldn't trust anyone who said they were clean. Throwing a fit because you don't want to use a condom and putting all of the responsibility for protection on the woman seems immature to me. You should both take responsibility for yourselves and not have anything to regret later.
alphamale Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Use of a condom not only prevents transmission of STD'S but also PREGNANCY. If you're willing to be come a parent by accident, have sex without protection. I believe 60% of preganancies worldwide are unintended CURVYGURL. And in addition, I think you are the 35 yr old virgin....is this not correct? So you giving others advice on sexual activity is like someone whos never had a drivers license teaching other people to drive safely.
loony Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I believe 60% of preganancies worldwide are unintended CURVYGURL. Yes, because people were so stupid not to use protection. They played with the fire and got burnt. Does it need a rocket scientist to figure this out? And in addition, I think you are the 35 yr old virgin....is this not correct? So you giving others advice on sexual activity is like someone whos never had a drivers license teaching other people to drive safely. I do not need a driver's license to caution you not to take drugs and drink when you drive home from a party, do I? And I certainly do not have to sleep around to find out about all the diseases that are free to catch. You're the kind of bully who insists that a woman is a prudish girlie just because she insists that you use a condom for her safety.
alphamale Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 You're the kind of bully who insists that a woman is a prudish girlie just because she insists that you use a condom for her safety. That is a mean thing to say LOONEY....and if they do insist then I will wear one but most don't insist so I don't.
loony Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 That is a mean thing to say LOONEY....and if they do insist then I will wear one but most don't insist so I don't. You also choose to aim low when someone stated her position on personal safety. If you and your partners are willing to take the risks it's ok, but other people may be reluctant to do so and this should be respected. People should not be pushed to have sex and people should not be belittled when they want to take precautions to avoid real dangers.
CurvyGurl Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Alphamale makes a habit out of being mean, playing devils advocate, and making people think they have nothing of value to add to a conversation. I ignore 9 out of 10 of his posts. Your argument that I have to have had sex to know about sexual health practists is ludicrous. And I am 31, not 35. Don't make me an old maid any sooner than I need to be. Regarding STD's...I would want to be protected from ANYTHING, whether it is a one night stand or a gal you've dated for 2 weeks. If yuo are willing to take that risk it is on you. I think you will be hard pressed to find more than a few people who agree that you should just go for broke and not at least use a condom. There are simply too many deadly diseases out there to take a chance. Regarding pregnancy, women get horny and lie, as well. If you believe she is on the pill just because she says she is, you are a fool. That condom is protection for YOU.
Author 933KJL Posted November 2, 2005 Author Posted November 2, 2005 See curvy I sort of agree with Alpha. I think it is more of an age/cultural deal. It is a false hope for sure, but maybe the 35+ crowd and certainly the 40+ crowd does not see themselves as vulnerable since it was not an issue way back when. Most are divorced and deemed relatively safe, and as my Texas friend said he prides himself on his ability to determine a woman of character.
CurvyGurl Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 35 and 40 yr old women can bee skeevy too. Don't be naive and don't be an idiot. Protect yourself till you know her.
JS17 Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I think it is more of an age/cultural deal. I agree, I was thinking that it was really interesting to see that the 20-somethings/early 30-somethings were taking the responsible route and the late 30's/40s+ crowd was being so laxed about protection. It makes sense, we were exposed to the prevalency of STDs when we were still learning about sex as youngsters and it is kind of ingrained in us. For me, I know too many people that sleep around without protection and have STDs to not protect myself. Maybe the older crowd hasn't been exposed to this kind of behavior.
alphamale Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Alphamale makes a habit out of being mean, playing devils advocate, and making people think they have nothing of value to add to a conversation. I ignore 9 out of 10 of his posts. I am what I am CG and I won't change for anyone.... Your argument that I have to have had sex to know about sexual health practists is ludicrous. Would you take financial investment advice from someone who creates art for a living? Probably not... I was just pointing out the reality of what goes on when people have sex. And I am 31, not 35. Don't make me an old maid any sooner than I need to be. sorry about that... There are simply too many deadly diseases out there to take a chance. There really are not that many "deadly" STDs out there CG. AIDS is definitely one but it is very hard to get if you're not an IV drug user or having sex with high-risk people. Lets face the reality, AIDS is pretty much confined to certain populations and I don't go near them. Regarding pregnancy, women get horny and lie, as well. If you believe she is on the pill just because she says she is, you are a fool. The fact is, CG, that you must trust people to a certain extent. What am I gonna do? I can't do a blood test on her before we have sex or confirm anything. Can you confirm 100% that the pilot of your flight did not drink a fifth of vodka before geting on the plane? That condom is protection for YOU. Well I choose not to use them if I don't have too...
JS17 Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 There really are not that many "deadly" STDs out there CG. Even something like HPV can be deadly if you end up with cancer from it. AIDS is definitely one but it is very hard to get if you're not an IV drug user or having sex with high-risk people. Lets face the reality, AIDS is pretty much confined to certain populations and I don't go near them. That was back in 1982. Fast forward another 20 years Alpha, you're living in fantasy land.
alphamale Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 That was back in 1982. Fast forward another 20 years Alpha, you're living in fantasy land. The fact remains JS17 that AIDS is extremely hard to get and pretty much confined to certain populations. How many people do you know who are middle class, live in the suburbs, have a good job and a college degree and also have AIDS??? Probably zero, I would guess.
Art_Critic Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 The fact remains JS17 that AIDS is extremely hard to get and pretty much confined to certain populations. How many people do you know who are middle class, live in the suburbs, have a good job and a college degree and also have AIDS??? Probably zero, I would guess. My mom is an RN dealing with Aids patients and she will tell you straight out that it is a disease of IV drug users and Gay people.. Years ago before the blood supply was clean there were alot of hetero cases.. Kids etc.. that were given aids thru transfusions.. The blood supply is clean today and the number of heterosexual aids is tiny.. Yes the stats show hetero aids on the rise.. but stats are stats and can look worse than the reality
alphamale Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 My mom is an RN dealing with Aids patients and she will tell you straight out that it is a disease of IV drug users and Gay people.. Years ago before the blood supply was clean there were alot of hetero cases.. Kids etc.. that were given aids thru transfusions.. The blood supply is clean today and the number of heterosexual aids is tiny.. I rest my case....also, please remember that the scare tactics that the media uses to boost ratings also blows these things out of proportion...
JS17 Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I'd rather not share any more than this but I know two people. One is highly educated but homosexual and one is highly educated, rich, and as straight as they come.
loony Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Would you take financial investment advice from someone who creates art for a living? Probably not... I was just pointing out the reality of what goes on when people have sex. That's your reality, but not everybody else's. There really are not that many "deadly" STDs out there CG. Well, HPV can cause cancer as JS mentioned earlier and I would also not be really eager to have syphilis... AIDS is definitely one but it is very hard to get if you're not an IV drug user or having sex with high-risk people. Lets face the reality, AIDS is pretty much confined to certain populations and I don't go near them. And who says your partners don't go near them? The fact is, CG, that you must trust people to a certain extent. Certainly not with my life. And some still might choose not to tell you everything for many reasons, even when it's not life threatening. Do you really know these women after an hour or two?
JS17 Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I am also one of 3 women that I know that DOESN'T have HPV. Two that I know have gotten cancer from it. The rest struggle constantly with it.
Neptune Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 JS17 Thanks for speaking up. I am over 50 and convinced that many do not want to learn much about the reality of STD`s today. It means, quite frankly that the sexual revolution is over and is a failure. Anyone who wants to take the time to study will first be challanged that they may in fact have a contagious and non curable STD. But I am convinced that very few are up to the challange of really educating themselves and then having the courage to be tested with up to date tests.
Outcast Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I never worry about that sheeyot with women. I just ask them if they are on the pill or not. If they are then I just f*** 'em without a rubber. If they are not on birth control pill then we just do 69 and I tell her to go to the Dr. to get a prescription for some pills. Nothing sadder than dying of one's own stupidity. Also puts the lie to the claim that all the women you sleep with are 'intelligent'.
alphamale Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Nothing sadder than dying of one's own stupidity. The chances of dying from and STD are almost zero and the chances of getting AIDS are almost zero if you are not gay or an IV drug user. We don't live in the middle ages anymore when people died from gonorrhea and syphillis. There are drugs and treatments for almost everything connected to STDs. Oh but i forget you are in Canada OUTCAST so maybe they don't have those drugs and treatments there or maybe you have to wait 9 months for them or soemthing. Also puts the lie to the claim that all the women you sleep with are 'intelligent'. I guess some women will take greater risks with exceptional men
loony Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 The chances of dying from and STD are almost zero and the chances of getting AIDS are almost zero if you are not gay or an IV drug user. We don't live in the middle ages anymore when people died from gonorrhea and syphillis. There are drugs and treatments for almost everything connected to STDs. As far as I remember syphilis is not that easily recognizable and often it's a tad too late. I guess some women will take greater risks with exceptional men Ha.ha.ha.
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