933KJL Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Hey this is just one of those get everyone's opinion posts. What do you think about dating when you are older. When I was younger, the only STD that was out there was VD and well that has changed. I am always hesitant to bring up the test talk, and I absolutely abbhor comdom useage. A friend of mine in Texas once said (and I know this is flawed) he is a good judge of character and has been lucky. Personally, I tend to avoid the "so tell me about your tests results" talk and play it safe with a condom--which typically kills the mood. When someone says they are tested and clean--do you ask for proof. How do you do that. I have had a few relationships and we both acknowledged that we were STD free, and eventually it morphed into not using the condom and relyingon the pill or a tubal ligation. So let's talk about it
Art_Critic Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 The last GF I had asked me to be tested and I did.. Then I showed her the results.. She thought that was so cool that I showed her.. she said most guys just say they have been tested but never show you the test.. And her thinking is that they haven't been tested.. She was a radiology tech in a hospital and gave blood on a regular basis so she was tested all the time..
JS17 Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Listen, if you're really concerned I can give you the name of a good vet who will test Lilly for you.
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 When I was younger, the only STD that was out there was VD and well that has changed. How??? VD stands for Venereal Disease and that pretty much encompasses all the STDs such as gonorrea, herpes, chlamydia, etc....about the only one I can think of this is not part of VD is AIDS....but AIDS is a Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD) Get your terminology right...
Author 933KJL Posted November 1, 2005 Author Posted November 1, 2005 OK, to clarify for ALPHAMALE (like the inflection?) when I was younger the only things that were prevalent were ghonnorea, syphilis, herpes, etc. which are all cureable or treatable/manageable. Now you have AIDS which for all intents and purposes is not.
whichwayisup Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I think you just have to choose carefully. If you meet a woman in a bar and she's ready to go that night - It's a redflag. Just wear a condom... I know the chances of getting AIDS through oral sex are slim, but there's still a low percentage, so just be careful. (I'm sure the thought of putting on a condom or whatever covering her snatch is something you wanna do...Yeah right!) I would also like to think that anybody out in the dating scene is well aware of what s*** is out there that they would be careful too, but apparently life doesn't work that way...Just recently there's a football player (CFL) who is HIV positive, about to be charged as he screwed many women and never told them he was positive.
RecordProducer Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I vote for a condom. Not only that you will avoid the test-talk at the very beginning, but on a global level, since people have started using condoms, AIDS has stopped spreading as it used to spread ten years ago in the western part of the world. If all people used condoms, the disease would spread so slowly that even if your condom blows or you decide to take it off without testing each other, the possibility of getting AIDS is very little. You don't need to ask a woman for a permission to put a condom. Women have a problem with this, because they actually have to ask the guy to put one and unless the guy is conscious and/or comfortable with it, we hear the answer: "Oh, I hate rubbers." I guess it's something that people should put boundaries on for themeselves: if you don't use a condom I won't sleep with you. Even the AIDS test is not a guarantee that someone isn't HIV positive, because you don't know them well enough (unless you do) to trust them that they haven't slept with anyone in teh last three months even if they claim so. The usual story is "I have nothing, I slept with my ex until a couple months ago and I know she doesn't have any STD... or I used a condom." Then you hear the "Don't worry" part and you start worrying. Other nasty diseases are hepatitis B and C (there are vaccines against them though). Once diagnosed, with the proper diet, medications, and good luck, you can't hope for more than 20 years of living left. So if you're 25 or 30 - count! By the way, 933KJL, AIDS became "popular" about 20 years ago. I don't know why you say it wasn't a threat when you were young...
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I vote for a condom. ... Screw the rubbers RP! You want to know what its like to have sex with a rubber. Welll RP...next time you're about to have sex take a whole roll of saran wrap and wrap it all over your body and then have sex. that is what its like, it sucks. I never worry about that sheeyot with women. I just ask them if they are on the pill or not. If they are then I just f*** 'em without a rubber. If they are not on birth control pill then we just do 69 and I tell her to go to the Dr. to get a prescription for some pills. Easy...
Author 933KJL Posted November 1, 2005 Author Posted November 1, 2005 I am 43 so at 23 it became more prevalent and it was mostly restricted to the drug user crowd, the Haitians, and the gays. Now at 23, I was beginning to settle down and met my ex wife when I was 25 and we were monogamous...until the latter part of the marriage but I digress....so it was not really a threat on my radar screen. But now, being the wild and crazy swinging bachelor that I am, it is a whole different ballgame!
whichwayisup Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 But now, being the wild and crazy swinging bachelor that I am, it is a whole different ballgame! Stand in for another kind of animal... Play safe...
JS17 Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I guess I'm not old enough to post but I'm going to anyway. Some of the thinner condoms feel really natural. Obviously it's an issue these days and you're better safe than sorry. There was a thread a while back with everyone's favorite condoms on there that might be worth checking out. Try the thin ones, it can't hurt and if you don't like them then try something else. BTW, Alpha's post absolutely sickens me.
Author 933KJL Posted November 1, 2005 Author Posted November 1, 2005 I am a little more PC than ALPHA but I agree with the concept. I hate them and more times than not, between the unwrapping, checking to make sure they are the right side out, rolling them on, andso forth, Mr. Happy goes away. The only plus side to that is that in the morning you look in the trash can and there are half a dozen rubbers and it looks like it was a good night. When in reality it was five lost opportunities and one score!
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I am a little more PC than ALPHA but I agree with the concept. I hate them and more times than not, between the unwrapping, checking to make sure they are the right side out, rolling them on, andso forth, Mr. Happy goes away. Yes 933, there was a Seinfeld episode about this. George would have such a hard time opening the condom wrapper that he would lose his erection.
RecordProducer Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 next time you're about to have sex take a whole roll of saran wrap and wrap it all over your body and then have sex. that is what its like I never worry about that sheeyot with women. I just ask them if they are on the pill or not. If they are then I just f*** 'em without a rubber. How self-conscious of you! A doctor's son who doesn't fear AIDS! Alpha, you'll die of AIDS at age 87. Doctors will ask you: "Blood transfusion?" And you'll say: "Lots of unsafe sex last year!!! "
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 How self-conscious of you! A doctor's son who doesn't fear AIDS! everyone will die when their time is up....plane crash, car accident, cerebrovascular accident, heart attack, lightning strike, AIDS, ;.....whatever. Life is too short to worry about that crap. I could get hit by a car walking out of the office bldg tonite...
whichwayisup Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 How self-conscious of you! A doctor's son who doesn't fear AIDS! Alpha, you'll die of AIDS at age 87. Doctors will ask you: "Blood transfusion?" And you'll say: "Lots of unsafe sex last year!!! " Age 86...Good year for !!
RainyDayWoman Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I am a little more PC than ALPHA but I agree with the concept. I hate them and more times than not, between the unwrapping, checking to make sure they are the right side out, rolling them on, andso forth, Mr. Happy goes away. The only plus side to that is that in the morning you look in the trash can and there are half a dozen rubbers and it looks like it was a good night. When in reality it was five lost opportunities and one score! it's refreshing to see some honesty on this board with regard to this topic. it always struck me as unbelievable that every single person on this board is tested like clockwork, always has perfectly safe sex, and never does anything to put their sexual health at risk whatsoever. even when someone is cheated on, everyone goes "how dare he put your sexual health at risk!?" come on, how many people have NOT put ANYONE at risk ever? it's usually a high horse kinda thing, we can pretend it's all perfection from this side of the screen, oh no not me never ever, but in reality, people take risks, and yes sometimes stupidly, but they do. and they think it can't happen to them, and then they wait uncomfortably to find if it can.
alphamale Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 it's usually a high horse kinda thing, we can pretend it's all perfection from this side of the screen, oh no not me never ever, but in reality, people take risks, and yes sometimes stupidly, but they do. let me tell you something RDW....I have banged a number of women, most of them college educated professionals and most of them did not care about safe sex. A few did require condoms but many did not if they were on the pill (which most were). This whole safe sex thing is getting blown way out of proportion. I really don't care about it that much to tell y0u the truth. I'd rather have good sex instead of padding the pockets of condom companies...
Author 933KJL Posted November 1, 2005 Author Posted November 1, 2005 everyone will die when their time is up....plane crash, car accident, cerebrovascular accident, heart attack, lightning strike, AIDS, ;.....whatever. Life is too short to worry about that crap. I could get hit by a car walking out of the office bldg tonite... ALPHA be careful look both ways
JS17 Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I am a little more PC than ALPHA but I agree with the concept. I hate them and more times than not, between the unwrapping, checking to make sure they are the right side out, rolling them on, andso forth, Mr. Happy goes away. The only plus side to that is that in the morning you look in the trash can and there are half a dozen rubbers and it looks like it was a good night. When in reality it was five lost opportunities and one score! Well it's up to you but you have two young single people here telling you to use them because we're out there and we've seen our friends end up sorry that they didn't use protection. It's not the same out there today as it was 20 years ago. One person I know was young and it took 1 time having unprotected sex and it was the biggest mistake of her life. So the decision is yours but being out there, I wouldn't take the chance.
RainyDayWoman Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 let me tell you something RDW....I have banged a number of women, most of them college educated professionals and most of them did not care about safe sex. A few did require condoms but many did not if they were on the pill (which most were). This whole safe sex thing is getting blown way out of proportion. I really don't care about it that much to tell y0u the truth. I'd rather have good sex instead of padding the pockets of condom companies... well, i do understand that being safe is important, the same way i understand that smoking is bad for your health and do it anyway. but i do not believe everyone is as safe and clean as they pretend to be. it's all this "be safe, get tested, make sure they're tested too" but who actually does carry results around to prove to potential partners they are "clean?" i would say almost no one, but i am sure they claim to be tested and squeaky clean. how are they going to get laid otherwise? sounds bad, but it's true, isn't it? to be honest, i think most people who have sex without condoms with YOU (in general) have had sex without condoms with probably anyone who would let them. but of course to you, you're the only one they trust enough to sleep with bareback. please. and if you're letting them do it without a condom, you've probably let other people too. it's a bunch of people fooling themselves.
RecordProducer Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 One person I know was young and it took 1 time having unprotected sex and it was the biggest mistake of her life. A person I know, who was zoophiliac, had sex with a duck and got bird flu.
Author 933KJL Posted November 1, 2005 Author Posted November 1, 2005 A person I know, who was zoophiliac, had sex with a duck and got bird flu. That is not really funny RP. There was a reported case of it in Florida recently... http://forum.tt-hardware.com/uploads/birdflu.1130398747.jpg
RecordProducer Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 That is not really funny RP. I guess we could consider it a sexually transmitted disease also. So was it a real duck on the pic (the link you gave me)?
FataMorgana Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 well, depend if you are after fun and games and short term (one night or a few nights with soemone you don't know too well) or if you are after long term with someone you have gotten to know a little and trust a little ( well, hopefully anyway) short term, condoms are a good idea, long term, don't think anyone would mind if you ask them to get tested as long as you don't mind doing it yourself (just a bit of extension of mutual trust).
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