BrainRightHeartWrong Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 Suicide... my friend did it and... somehow I respect him for it, today I broke up with my gf and while I don't hope I would do this I understood why he took his own life... I didn't want him to do this and I wish I would have been there to save him if he had talked to me he was obviously just wanting away from his darkness and he took the ultimate decision this is terrible!
whichwayisup Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 It is terrible and sad...Obviously he felt suicide was his only choice. Ya never know what was going through his head, what mental state he was in. Try to concentrate on what a good person he was and what he brought into your life as your friend. I'm sure you learned from him just as he learned from you. Sorry for your loss and ofcourse too, things not working out with your girlfriend. Hugs.
J dub Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 I mean no disrespect to your friend believe me, but no matter how much in agony a person is inside, there is always something that can fix it (if anything else, time) but they have to have faith that they will find their cure. And everyone always does -- and sometimes are happier than ever once they do. Despite how much something hurts right now, it does get better and sometimes you have to sit back and think -- someone else has it worse than you and doesnt have it as good...and of course, there are always those who love you who will be suffering in their own despair if you commit suicide.
grace2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 My brother died by suicide. He didn't do it over a break-up. It was several other factors that I won't get into. I have contemplated following in his footsteps for the last 8 years. Especially in the summer of 2004 I had an obsession with suicide methods and death. It got to the point where I did buy a gun in January 2005 and sold it 2 months later. My ex gf whom I was dating at the time found out about it from a reliable source and insisted that I sold the gun. I don't know how much longer I want to live. I look forward to my own death because I believe I'm going to spend eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven. The dying process is a little scary. I believe my brother is with the Lord and I will re-unite with him someday. He is now free from the pain and troubles of this life. So in a way I envy him. What is waiting for believers in Jesus Christ in the next life is far better than anything here.
westernxer Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 A guy from high school killed himself over an ex. I heard he blew his head off next to the railroad tracks. I never saw him again.
J dub Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 My brother died by suicide. He didn't do it over a break-up. It was several other factors that I won't get into. I have contemplated following in his footsteps for the last 8 years.....What is waiting for believers in Jesus Christ in the next life is far better than anything here. Suicide is a selfish sin. I am not trying to mock you but I would NOT want to be feeling the wrath of someone who has such great power because I made a really huge, irreversible mistake. Besides, arent we taught that life is a gift? Essentially by taking your own, it's like rejecting what you have been given. Probably not the smartest idea if youre interested in being with Jesus.
grace2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Everybody sins. The bible does not teach that suicide is the unforgivable sin. The bible does teach that Jesus died for all sins so that whoever believes in Him has eternal life. It's a free gift. Besides when a person commits suicide they are only killing the flesh not the soul.
Outcast Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 I look forward to my own death because I believe I'm going to spend eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven. You've got all eternity to be there. You have only a short time to be here. Your twisted thinking is indescribably selfish and un-Christian. You would cause pain to all who love you for your own selfish reasons. I wouldn't expect Christ to welcome you with open arms were you to do such a self-centered thing. Maybe it's time to go see a psychologist.
grace2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 You've got all eternity to be there. You have only a short time to be here. Your twisted thinking is indescribably selfish and un-Christian. You would cause pain to all who love you for your own selfish reasons. I wouldn't expect Christ to welcome you with open arms were you to do such a self-centered thing. Maybe it's time to go see a psychologist. One could argue that it is also selfish and un-christian to judge whether or not it's right or wrong to take one's own life. Jesus also taught that whatever measure you use to judge others the same measure will be used on you. So be careful. One could also argue that it is selfish and un-christian to not take the person's pain and agony in consideration when they decided to end their life. I do not think my brother was selfish at all. I cannot judge whether he was right or wrong. All I can say is that it was a personal decision and as much as it hurts me that he's gone, it was his life and it was what he wanted. I am grateful that nobody else took his life from him if he had to die so soon. It would've been worse if he was murdered. He didn't want to be here anymore and so I have to respect his feelings. I think it is selfish and un-christian to want someone alive for the wrong reasons. So you are not any less selfish than the ones you say are who commit suicide. Do you want them alive so you can use them for your own emotional support or do you care about their feelings and wants? There are men of faith in the bible like sampson who committed suicide and they are now in the presence of God. You know maybe not everyone feels fit to live in this world. Who can argue with how one feels?
Outcast Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 One could also argue that it is selfish and un-christian to not take the person's pain and agony in consideration when they decided to end their life I'm not talking about your brother or about people suffering chronic mental ailments, particularly depression. I'm talking about someone who seems unafflicted by any ailment making the cold, rational decision that I don't know how much longer I want to live. I look forward to my own death because I believe I'm going to spend eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven
grace2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I'm not talking about your brother or about people suffering chronic mental ailments, particularly depression. I'm talking about someone who seems unafflicted by any ailment making the cold, rational decision that Well you should have elaborated to begin with under which circumstances suicide would be justified. What's going on inside me is far beyond the scope of this thread and quite frankly the recent break up with my ex gf is the least of my problems. I have my other reasons. You just assumed I'm unafflicted by any ailment. You should've asked first but you didn't bother to give me the benefit of the doubt. My other problems have nothing to do with my love life in general and since this website is for relationship issues I won't go into detail what else has been going on. That's for another website.
Outcast Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Well I hope you're getting help, then. It can't be easy to have to deal with all of this at once. LS is good for some help and support but people often need a more personal touch.
suegail Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Grace, It's my sincere hope and prayer you'll never decide to leave this world before it's really your time to go, but I do understand your feelings about a longing for heaven and I believe also, as you do, that nothing in this life will compare.
NightsEcho Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Grace...I am a christian male, so please take this from someone who believes in Christ. This is not the forum to express as much religious speak. I understand that Jesus has helped you. But much of the points you bring up would be better suited to your church group, or psychologist. No point in having flame wars, everyone is entitled to there own beliefs and I respect everyone for that. Anyway, Suicide is a touchy subject and we are better to argue something that might yield a tangible answer then argue this. I feel the pain of the loss of your brother, as well as the terrible loss BrainRightHeartWrong. Please say a prayer for your friend, and your brother, to whatever god you chose. I know I will for you NE
westernxer Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 My other problems have nothing to do with my love life in general and since this website is for relationship issues I won't go into detail what else has been going on. That's for another website. Problems are problems, regardless of how you classify them. Difficulties with love usually stem from issues within ourselves. Everything has an overlap... a solution for one thing can be a solution to many things. Maybe we can help, but it's up to you.
grace2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Yes yes you are right. I apologize. You are right this is not the appropriate forum to debate/argue religious topics.
grace2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 I am actually going to go see somebody next week to get help with anger management and learning how to deal with my emotions more maturely. I've had a bad habit of hitting steering wheels and banging doors when I'm angry.
westernxer Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 That's good news, grace2005. Glad to hear you're taking steps to deal with this. By admitting your weakness, you show how strong you really are.
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