alphamale Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 They want a HOT bad boy in the sheets....a rugged handy man to help around the house....a clean cut nice guy to make them feel like a princess and a good man with morals and values to be a father.... The problem is....a man of these qualities is slim to come by. Agreed TMW...and the few men who exist who have many of these qualities are already in high demand by women so they are not desperate for female company. They can get laid whenever they want and they can treat women like krap and get away with it...
SmoochieFace Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 This is what men want: An average looking female who will admire and adore them for WHO THEY ARE...not what YOU want them to be. This is what women want: EVERYTHING True in general. It took me a very long time but after being in relationships in which the woman was always trying to *change* me in some way I am now with someone who simply loves me for me. Exactly what I want. Here's a hint for those men who are looking for a *good* woman: consider going for those women who are older than you. It definitely works for me.
tanbark813 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 These are the only guys that exist so you really don't have a choice but to be with them. If you want someone, this is what you have to settle for. If you think all guys are like this then you're just picking the wrong guys.
Hot Coco Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Thumb, I agree with a lot of what you said except for this: This is what men want: An average looking female who will admire and adore them for WHO THEY ARE...not what YOU want them to be. WRONG! I can't believe how many "average to unnatractive" men go after above average women. It's true! They ALL want above average looking women. Don't paint men to be so "innocent" in the dating game. They want the "whole package" too! The rest of it...I agree with you about. But I think, speaking as a woman, most of us end up ONLY wanting the nice guy as we get mature. In my younger days, yes, I threw away the nice guys but then was lucky enough to meet another one when I was more mature and ready. I even tell him "boy am I glad I didn't meet you in my 20's!" I would have never been ready for him then. So there's a lot to what you way. Today, if I were single, I'd have NO interest in those "bad boys." Those guys are for the twenty and early thirty somethings!
alphamale Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 WRONG! I can't believe how many "average to unnatractive" men go after above average women. It's true! They ALL want above average looking women. There is a big difference between wanting and getting, HOT COCO. We all want the best for ourselves and trust me, most women regardless of their own qualities would like to have an attractive man who is athletic and intelligent with a bubbly personality and is a CEO or a physician or a movie star... it works both ways. Problem is that few people have what it takes to attract the best members of the opposite sex.
ThumbingMyWay Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 But I think, speaking as a woman, most of us end up ONLY wanting the nice guy as we get mature. In my younger days, yes, I threw away the nice guys but then was lucky enough to meet another one when I was more mature and ready. I even tell him "boy am I glad I didn't meet you in my 20's!" I would have never been ready for him then. So there's a lot to what you way. Today, if I were single, I'd have NO interest in those "bad boys." Those guys are for the twenty and early thirty somethings! hmmm....I agree. A few months ago...my older sister and i were talking about this very subject...and she said the same exact thing... Young women (20, early 30's) want the bad boy. But once they get thru all the games that are played and then see themselves reaching 40...they come to realize that the bad boy is not long term material....so they start looking for the nice guys....and accept the fact that they cant have it all....
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 IMO....women cant choose....they want it all, but cant have it all. They want a HOT bad boy in the sheets....a rugged handy man to help around the house....a clean cut nice guy to make them feel like a princess and a good man with morals and values to be a father.... The problem is....a man of these qualities is slim to come by. YOU must settle for a compromise...and your ego wont let you....cause you want want want.... SO....after sifting thru the jerks....you will finally come to the realization, that you should have kept that NICE guy who treated you well, listened to you and WANTED to be with you..... BUT NOOOO.......you just gotta push that guy away....WHY? I agree with you on this completely. The same way that younger men will want those super hot independent women that want nothing but sex, women want everything that fits their ideal as well when they are younger. Everyone comes to terms with the fact that they can't have everything they want at some point and start to learn what traits are truly important to them. I know SOOOOO many nice decent men, good looking, have a job, good values, etc.....BUT no wife or GF..... ladies...YOU are missing out....not US nice guys....casue sooner ot later WE will be taken...and that is one less "good" man on the market. This is what men want: An average looking female who will admire and adore them for WHO THEY ARE...not what YOU want them to be. This is what women want: EVERYTHING I have to disagree with you on this point. First of all, I think that these nice decent men that are good lookign, great job, good values, etc are a myth. I haven't seen one before. The ones that I've seen come closest are married by their early 20s and around these parts that's incredibly uncommon. I think you're idea of what men and women want are a little off as well. It's funny, when I talk to my friends you hear the exact opposite...the women want someone who will admire and adore them for who they are and the men want everything in a woman....looks, personality, looks, intelligence, looks, a sex goddess, and of course looks.
alphamale Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Young women (20, early 30's) want the bad boy. But once they get thru all the games that are played and then see themselves reaching 40...they come to realize that the bad boy is not long term material....so they start looking for the nice guys....and accept the fact that they cant have it all.... This is partially true TMW....there is a group of women who married young and have kids and then get divorced in their late 30s or 40s that are looking to go out and party it up and have fun and to date the "bad boys" that they never got a chance to hang out with cause they were "good girls" and did what society asked of them.... which is get married at 21 to your high shcool sweetheart and have kids
ThumbingMyWay Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 WRONG! I can't believe how many "average to unnatractive" men go after above average women. It's true! They ALL want above average looking women. OK...but this would be the young men too.. BUT If I were single, at my age (35)....I would look for a "plain jane" in the same age if not older than me.....I;d be done with the pretty girls.... I;d much rather be with an avg looking humble woman
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 ok, I see I was a little behind on my response If you think all guys are like this then you're just picking the wrong guys.I'm not just talking about the guys that I date. Its that plus friends, coworkers, etc.. Every guy I know and almost all I have ever met is looking for one thing.
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 OK...but this would be the young men too.. BUT If I were single, at my age (35)....I would look for a "plain jane" in the same age if not older than me.....I;d be done with the pretty girls.... I;d much rather be with an avg looking humble woman TMW, the same goes for women. Our priorities change as we mature.
ThumbingMyWay Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 This is partially true TMW....there is a group of women who married young and have kids and then get divorced in their late 30s or 40s that are looking to go out and party it up and have fun and to date the "bad boys" that they never got a chance to hang out with cause they were "good girls" and did what society asked of them.... which is get married at 21 to your high shcool sweetheart and have kids holy s*** AM....you just told my marriage story this is exactly what happened to my wife....BUT...we are working things out now...
tanbark813 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 ok, I see I was a little behind on my response I'm not just talking about the guys that I date. Its that plus friends, coworkers, etc.. Every guy I know and almost all I have ever met is looking for one thing. It's still a small sampling. In my circle of friends most of the guys are good-looking, stable, work in the technology sector, are faithful, intelligent, etc.. Some are still single too. So for you to say those kind of guys don't exist is just flat out wrong because I hang out with those kind of guys on a weekly basis. Yes, all guys will want sex, but that doesn't mean some don't want relationships too. I love being in relationships but then as soon as the girl knows you love her she goes off and cheats and the cycle begins anew. Like I said, you just haven't met the right guys.
ThumbingMyWay Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 I think you're idea of what men and women want are a little off as well. OK..maybe my view is one sided to what I think....
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 OK..maybe my view is one sided to what I think.... Well you kind of too that out of context but I think that everyone that posts here is biased to one side based on their past experiences, myself included.
Hot Coco Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, Thumb my comment about guys wanting the above average looking women goes for ANY age. I seriously doubt if you found yourself single now that you'd only go after average looking ones. And you know, just because a woman is attractive doesn't mean she's a Bit-h or doesn't have good morals and values. To JS that's sad. Maybe you should move. I met a man (H of over 10 years) who is good looking, never cheated on me, great provider, sexy and fun to be with....the WHOLE PACKAGE! Of course it took 33 years to meet someone like that...but I did! Don't give up...they ARE out there but you have to keep your eyes wide OPEN and not be negative. Those types of guys won't be drawn to negative women...just something to think about.
ThumbingMyWay Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 I seriously doubt if you found yourself single now that you'd only go after average looking ones. I disagree....but average looking is in the eye of the beholder....Of course I would want to have an attractive women...but TO ME....all woman are beautiful in their own way. OUTside looks to me, at this age, are not that important. I would not want a DROP DEAD HOT one...BUT I wouldnt want a fuggly one either... PLAIN JANE in the looks dept would be fine with me.....its the inside that would be mroe important to me now....
tanbark813 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Those types of guys won't be drawn to negative women...just something to think about. Words of wisdom.
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 To JS that's sad. Maybe you should move. I met a man (H of over 10 years) who is good looking, never cheated on me, great provider, sexy and fun to be with....the WHOLE PACKAGE! Of course it took 33 years to meet someone like that...but I did! Don't give up...they ARE out there but you have to keep your eyes wide OPEN and not be negative. Those types of guys won't be drawn to negative women...just something to think about. Well are you saying I should move because I'll find them somewhere else or are you saying that I'm f@cked because I'm negative?
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Words of wisdom. You're looking at things the same way as I am just from the other side. I love being in relationships but then as soon as the girl knows you love her she goes off and cheats and the cycle begins anew. Like I said, you just haven't met the right guys. Just switch the genders and I agree with you from my experience.
tanbark813 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 You're looking at things the same way as I am just from the other side. Just switch the genders and I agree with you from my experience. But the difference between me and you is that I don't think ALL women are like that. I may have briefly thought that out of bitterness or anger at times but I know it's not really true. I don't think good women are a myth, I have simply made poor choices.
Hot Coco Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Well are you saying I should move because I'll find them somewhere else or are you saying that I'm f@cked because I'm negative? BOTH! No, I'm kidding...I don't think you're f@cked up at all just need to adjust your way of thinking a bit or you will continue to only meet the same type of guys...like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe you should also think about hanging around different people than you have been. Sounds like you're all feeding off each others' negativity. I'm not bashing you, just making an observation based on what you've said.
Hot Coco Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Those types of guys won't be drawn to negative women...just something to think about. Words of wisdom. Thanks Tan! In my case, wisdom borne out of experience.
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 But the difference between me and you is that I don't think ALL women are like that. I may have briefly thought that out of bitterness or anger at times but I know it's not really true. I don't think good women are a myth, I have simply made poor choices. Actually I don't think that all men are like this, I think the majority of men are like this. I have met 4 good/nice men in my life, one is my dad, one I dated in college, and two are my friends now and they are married. And how do you know that I am not having a brief period of thinking these things out of bitterness and anger? I don't even know the answer to that.
JS17 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 BOTH! No, I'm kidding...I don't think you're f@cked up at all just need to adjust your way of thinking a bit or you will continue to only meet the same type of guys...like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe you should also think about hanging around different people than you have been. Sounds like you're all feeding off each others' negativity. I'm not bashing you, just making an observation based on what you've said. That's pretty judgemental considering you don't even know what my situation is. You don't know whether or not I was negative before or after I met these men. And I don't really have a choice as to who I spend my time with, I work in a male dominated environement where money and sex are the most important thing. And by the way, I always said I would never date anyone in my industry because of this so my last serious boyfriend I went for was a school social worker. He cheated on me.
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