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26 minutes ago, max3732 said:

No. I'm not in my 50s. What post did you see that? I just entered my 40s

Please accept my apology.  I was confused with someone else

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I say be brief, keep the vibe similar to how it is when you meet women IRL, and he says to be more detailed and informative!

No right or wrong I suppose however as a woman, when I OLD, too much info about a man in his profile turned me right off.

Like he was selling himself to me, which came off desperate and thirsty. 

It's NOT the words you write but rather the vibe you project. 

A few good pics and a brief paragraph about yourself, that’s it.  Let her discover the rest by herself, women love wondering, trust me on that!  Stop trying so hard. 

This is NOT out of some PUA playbook, it's how you develop and build attraction, by introducing a bit of uncertainty and giving a woman the opportunity to wonder.

Again, if there's good vibe, schedule a meet and take it from there. 

I dunno max, to me a man's energy/vibe is everything and yours comes off a bit weak and that you lack confidence (sorry 😞).

You don't need to sell yourself or.try so hard.

Be different.  Stand out from all the other 100s of desperate thirsty guys out there selling themselves and vying for her attention. 

Ugh. 

 

 

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lt's been funny reading different female interpretations as a male thinking about the other way around. Personally, l found a lot of women went on and on but in all kinds of ways. Sometimes it just spelt out in block letters dream on, others tickets on themselves, others just boring and it was just yeah yeah yeah, others would try to make themselves sound quirky which just made them sound try hard, others spent 80% of it complaining and 100 other combos. All with standard lines to in 99% of them, love my family friends love to laugh, love traveling bla bla bla- but when l saw someone that didn't have all that bs - l'd read further on just that alone.

As a guy though, some girls just had a really beautiful way of just summing things up in just a few honest lines yet saying more than the whole pagers so op, if it were me l'd be you it's pointless being anyone else, but keep it as short as poss'.

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6 minutes ago, chillii said:

.As a guy though, some girls just had a really beautiful way of just summing things up in just a few honest lines yet saying more than the whole pagers so op, if it were me l'd be you it's pointless being anyone else, but keep it as short as poss'.

Agree. This is my point as well. Too much fluff and filler without much meaningful information. People's eyes glaze over when there's too much verbosity.

Be more succinct and articulate rather than injecting stale jokes, for example. I get that you're trying to paint a picture here, but being succinct enough for people to stay interested in reading is key.

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17 hours ago, max3732 said:

Every day I swipe or message the max amount and go through profile after profile that I'm interested in and get nothing back. Yet somehow I get messages and likes from women I'm not interested in. There's got to be something I can do

Getting the most matches is not the goal here. Rather, it's about attracting people who can be an ideal fit and will feel at home with the real you. And your guess about what other people may find attractive or (un)attractive is just that, a guess.

Identify your qualities and quirks with the help of your friends and family, take those descriptions and combine it with a frank self-assessment to create an authentic profile of yourself.

You're scrolling through online profiles and rejecting most because you're overstimulated, irritable, or exhausted. Try to stick to 15 minutes at a time that is convenient for you. Taking the time to observe each potential partner's brief profile allows you to pay attention carefully to what they have to say while presenting yourself fully.

Try easing up on your criteria if you aren't getting enough suitable prospects.

We adapt better to cues at a bar or party than in a place that requires us to change. For example, if three men approach a beautiful lady, it is unlikely that a fourth will follow. There is no context online, rejection costs are low, so we tend to aim high. You may end up passing on women who do not meet your criteria on paper, but may prove to be compatible in real life, which is the disadvantage of this approach.  Sometimes our idea of what we like quickly gives way to how we actually feel around that person.

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23 hours ago, max3732 said:

 

What can I do to make my profile more fun? Any examples of the kinds of things I should list? I've been thinking hard about this and I think I'm more than my job, hobbies, lifestyles, travels, etc. At my core I'm just a really decent, honest, hard working and fun guy. Part of that is even though I'm interested in a lot of things I'm not super obsessed. Probably the closest I come to that is with a sport I play. 

Something else is that besides board games I like most the classic "nerdy" type stuff like sci-fi, video games, and comic book movies. I'm not as into it as a lot of people where they're spending hours playing video games or discussing nuances of comic book characters. I'm also afraid I'm going to turn my target type woman away if I put something about these interests, but would that make it more fun? Or if I put a hidden talent is I remember the lyrics to theme songs from when I was growing up or something like that?

With "healthy living" I'm afraid they're going to think I don't enjoy desserts and am obsessed with only eating healthy all the time. I think I'm kind of well balanced in that I'll have a fast food burger every now and then.

I'm in my very early 40's and hopefully there are women who are in the mid 30's who'd be open to someone under 10 years older.

Put what you put here but condense it into two sentences. Ie. “live a healthy lifestyle but enjoy a good burger” “avidly into board games and also like being outdoors”. 

Done. 

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21 hours ago, poppyfields said:

Agree and it could actually result in being banned from the app or website.  I've seen it happen, a lot!

It's racist and non-white women specifically might take offense and report you. 

Why not keep it brief, something to intrigue her and let her wonder a bit?

If you were to meet iRL, would you be sharing all your preferences, likes or dislikes?  What race you prefer? 😳

No you wouldn't, you'd base your attraction on her look, her style and how well you vibe together.  And learn about each other on dates, organically. 

No different on a dating app.  Be brief.  Select women you find attractive, exchange a few texts, if you're vibing well over text, agree to meet in person. 

You're making it all much too contrived and forced.  Relax with it, have fun. 

Its not that difficult max.

Internet dating is mostly about physical attraction. Some guys are attracted to skinny women, other guys prefer chunky women, Some guys like blondes, other guys like brunettes. Some guys prefer asians whereas other guys prefer hispanic etc. For dating purposes, It is not racist to say that you are more attracted to one race over another. You are not saying that that particular race is not attractive, you are just saying for you specifically you are more attracted to certain types.

Now if you are only looking for a friend, then it would be racist to exclude certain races from your friend circle. If you don't hire a certain race in your company, that's racist. If you feel you are in a different league than another race, that would be racist. 

But simply being attracted to one race more than another, that's not racist. We don't choose who we feel chemistry with, we can't just turn a light switch and choose to be attracted to someone. The OP is just saying that he is more likely to find a love match with someone who is caucasian. He knows the physical attributes he is attracted to.

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55 minutes ago, glows said:

Put what you put here but condense it into two sentences. Ie. “live a healthy lifestyle but enjoy a good burger” “avidly into board games and also like being outdoors”. 

Done. 

This is good, short, simple with a couple of cool pics. 

Let her discover the rest herself, same as she would IRL.  Same for you. 

On line is simply an introduction, to discover if you like each other's look and style, SAME as real life. 

It's not a venue to dive into your likes and dislikes, qualities you like or even what you're looking for.  Those things get discovered when you meet in person.  Same as if you met IRL.

Create a vibe and this can be done on line, it's how my boyfriend attracted me.  He did not have much in his profile, but I liked his look and style and what he wrote intrigued me and I wanted to discover more. 

That's why on line is such a massive fail imo.  People selling themselves, interviewing each other, it's so cold and contrived. And a huge yawn for many people. 

Remember it's NOT the words you write, but the vibe you create and this CAN be done on line, despite what some people believe.  

 

 

 

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Oh you're almost 50?  Dreaming.  Sorry, at best you'll find a cute 45 yr old with 1 kid and no father around.  Way it is and its the same for the early 40's girl with "I'd like kids someday" in her profile.  Its not happening.

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22 minutes ago, CLS63AMG said:

Oh you're almost 50?  Dreaming.  Sorry, at best you'll find a cute 45 yr old with 1 kid and no father around.  Way it is and its the same for the early 40's girl with "I'd like kids someday" in her profile.  Its not happening.

That was my mistake.  OP corrected me with the fact that he's around 40

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On 7/5/2022 at 10:17 AM, Alpacalia said:

Getting the most matches is not the goal here. Rather, it's about attracting people who can be an ideal fit and will feel at home with the real you. And your guess about what other people may find attractive or (un)attractive is just that, a guess.

Identify your qualities and quirks with the help of your friends and family, take those descriptions and combine it with a frank self-assessment to create an authentic profile of yourself.

You're scrolling through online profiles and rejecting most because you're overstimulated, irritable, or exhausted. Try to stick to 15 minutes at a time that is convenient for you. Taking the time to observe each potential partner's brief profile allows you to pay attention carefully to what they have to say while presenting yourself fully.

Try easing up on your criteria if you aren't getting enough suitable prospects.

We adapt better to cues at a bar or party than in a place that requires us to change. For example, if three men approach a beautiful lady, it is unlikely that a fourth will follow. There is no context online, rejection costs are low, so we tend to aim high. You may end up passing on women who do not meet your criteria on paper, but may prove to be compatible in real life, which is the disadvantage of this approach.  Sometimes our idea of what we like quickly gives way to how we actually feel around that person.

I'd be fine just getting 1 match if it was with the kind of woman I'd want to go out with. Even the 2 women I did go out with recently weren't really my type but I gave them a shot. My date coming up it's the same way.

On 7/4/2022 at 6:35 PM, poppyfields said:

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I say be brief, keep the vibe similar to how it is when you meet women IRL, and he says to be more detailed and informative!

No right or wrong I suppose however as a woman, when I OLD, too much info about a man in his profile turned me right off.

Like he was selling himself to me, which came off desperate and thirsty. 

It's NOT the words you write but rather the vibe you project. 

A few good pics and a brief paragraph about yourself, that’s it.  Let her discover the rest by herself, women love wondering, trust me on that!  Stop trying so hard. 

This is NOT out of some PUA playbook, it's how you develop and build attraction, by introducing a bit of uncertainty and giving a woman the opportunity to wonder.

Again, if there's good vibe, schedule a meet and take it from there. 

I dunno max, to me a man's energy/vibe is everything and yours comes off a bit weak and that you lack confidence (sorry 😞).

You don't need to sell yourself or.try so hard.

Be different.  Stand out from all the other 100s of desperate thirsty guys out there selling themselves and vying for her attention. 

Ugh. 

 

 

I guess my thought was if I put something like "I'm a man of few words. Any questions?" Or something really short it would look like I'm not putting any effort into the profile. Maybe you're right it looks like I'm trying too hard. Do you have any issues with filing out all the basic info?

On 7/5/2022 at 10:22 AM, glows said:

Put what you put here but condense it into two sentences. Ie. “live a healthy lifestyle but enjoy a good burger” “avidly into board games and also like being outdoors”. 

Done. 

I really like that

23 hours ago, poppyfields said:

This is good, short, simple with a couple of cool pics. 

Let her discover the rest herself, same as she would IRL.  Same for you. 

On line is simply an introduction, to discover if you like each other's look and style, SAME as real life. 

It's not a venue to dive into your likes and dislikes, qualities you like or even what you're looking for.  Those things get discovered when you meet in person.  Same as if you met IRL.

Create a vibe and this can be done on line, it's how my boyfriend attracted me.  He did not have much in his profile, but I liked his look and style and what he wrote intrigued me and I wanted to discover more. 

That's why on line is such a massive fail imo.  People selling themselves, interviewing each other, it's so cold and contrived. And a huge yawn for many people. 

Remember it's NOT the words you write, but the vibe you create and this CAN be done on line, despite what some people believe.  

 

 

 

Let's say I put “live a healthy lifestyle but enjoy a good burger” “avidly into board games and also like being outdoors” as my bio and have the following pictures (these are what I have on Bumble now).

Profile is a nice smile where you can see me from the waist up outside. Next ones are: working the grill with hamburgers, the beach with a long sleeve button down shirt and dark jeans with sunglasses, skiing, kayaking, and then at a restaurant with a suite. 

As my interests I have my main sport, action & adventure, foodie, positivity, and being family oriented.

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Also remember to enjoy the journey. 

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The profiles sound fine, but remember you're probably getting judged just as much if not more by your pictures at first glance.  Have a good picture of you dressed nice, one of you doing something fun/active and outdoors, one with a group, one with your dog etc.  I've found having the right combo of pics makes a bigger difference than polishing your bio.

I've had the best luck with Bumble paid for boost, you will only potentially get messages from women that you swipe right on so they are already filtered for you, and you don't have to waste time writing 100 messages to them all that will never get a response.

However, it sounds like you are being fairly picky for the dating app world.  Remember that the majority of women on the apps are ones that are having trouble getting dates otherwise, for one reason or another.  99% of women over 30 on there are divorced with kids, and they typically can set their standards very high.  I've found it to be a big waste of time.

Edit: just read your last post and it sounds like you've already checked all the boxes.  Good luck!

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On 7/5/2022 at 4:09 PM, Johnjohnson2017 said:

Internet dating is mostly about physical attraction. Some guys are attracted to skinny women, other guys prefer chunky women, Some guys like blondes, other guys like brunettes. Some guys prefer asians whereas other guys prefer hispanic etc. For dating purposes, It is not racist to say that you are more attracted to one race over another. You are not saying that that particular race is not attractive, you are just saying for you specifically you are more attracted to certain types.

Now if you are only looking for a friend, then it would be racist to exclude certain races from your friend circle. If you don't hire a certain race in your company, that's racist. If you feel you are in a different league than another race, that would be racist. 

But simply being attracted to one race more than another, that's not racist. We don't choose who we feel chemistry with, we can't just turn a light switch and choose to be attracted to someone. The OP is just saying that he is more likely to find a love match with someone who is caucasian. He knows the physical attributes he is attracted to.

I agree that people have a physical 'type' and it's fine to only want to date redheads, people who wear stripey socks, etc. You can be as picky about physical appearance as you like. The trouble with specifying "white women" on a dating app is that it might make Max sound as if he's in the Ku Klux Klan. A potential date has no way to know if this is an indication of his physical preferences or of his politics, and many women would steer well clear of him in case it's the latter. If you think about it, most people don't go into massive detail about their physical preferences in a dating app bio, because it could come across as crass. No one is going to put, "I want a blonde woman, minimum 5 feet and maximum 5'4"" even if that's their ideal type. The first round of selection is based on photos and on profile info. The purpose of the first date is to see if there's physical attraction or not.

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On 7/4/2022 at 2:04 PM, max3732 said:

  Every day I swipe or message the max amount and go through profile after profile that I'm interested in and get nothing back. Yet somehow I get messages and likes from women I'm not interested in. There's got to be something I can do

I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's probably harder for women who are racial minorities or immigrants to find suitable male partners in the US, where there are relatively few eligible bachelors of their backgrounds and the majority of eligible men are white Americans. So it's possible that a larger proportion of them are actively searching and willing to consider a larger number of potential matches to improve their odds of meeting someone.

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If you have no desire to marry and start a family with a non-white woman, please continue on the "I don't want to date non-white women" track. As a non-white woman myself, I have great appreciation for honesty. I wouldn't want to waste my time dating someone if our relationship wouldn't progress because I was of the "wrong" race. It would be dehumanising, and I can't imagine what it would be like when the kids came along... Would the reluctant white husband empathize with his children? Would he have the emotional strength to protect them from relentless racism and to learn about their non-white heritage? Interethnic dating/marriage is not for everyone. 

So what can you do to match with more white women? I think you need to think of other white American men as your competition and then to proceed from there. I know... It's not ideal. But online dating sucks.

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4 hours ago, max3732 said:

I'd be fine just getting 1 match if it was with the kind of woman I'd want to go out with. Even the 2 women I did go out with recently weren't really my type but I gave them a shot. My date coming up it's the same way.

What do you think about the fact that your type is based on the personality of a TV character, Mary Ann?

The whole object of dating isn't just about going to the soda fountain for cherry sodas and having all the physical contact that you can imagine from a 1950s Disney movie.

Things such as refraining from excessive drinking and maintaining a healthy lifestyle are pretty significant. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could meet a woman that you truly enjoy spending time with?

Are you wholesome in your own eyes?

You're welcome to consider yourself the wholesome type that is looking for a wholesome partner if that's what you prefer. Just be sure to take your time. Spend less time with women you're not interested in and put out more effort to choose the right one instead of taking whatever opportunity comes your way.

 

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What race are you OP?

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11 hours ago, Acacia98 said:

I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's probably harder for women who are racial minorities or immigrants to find suitable male partners in the US, where there are relatively few eligible bachelors of their backgrounds and the majority of eligible men are white Americans. So it's possible that a larger proportion of them are actively searching and willing to consider a larger number of potential matches to improve their odds of meeting someone.

If you have no desire to marry and start a family with a non-white woman, please continue on the "I don't want to date non-white women" track. As a non-white woman myself, I have great appreciation for honesty. I wouldn't want to waste my time dating someone if our relationship wouldn't progress because I was of the "wrong" race. It would be dehumanising, and I can't imagine what it would be like when the kids came along... Would the reluctant white husband empathize with his children? Would he have the emotional strength to protect them from relentless racism and to learn about their non-white heritage? Interethnic dating/marriage is not for everyone. 

So what can you do to match with more white women? I think you need to think of other white American men as your competition and then to proceed from there. I know... It's not ideal. But online dating sucks.

Where I live it's a "majority minority" area so it's very difficult to find someone white non-hispanic that's American. Nearly every profile I see says some other country or is African American. So they have a lot of different groups to chose from.

I definitely think of everyone guy as my competition. I don't really know what to change. 

10 hours ago, Alpacalia said:

What do you think about the fact that your type is based on the personality of a TV character, Mary Ann?

The whole object of dating isn't just about going to the soda fountain for cherry sodas and having all the physical contact that you can imagine from a 1950s Disney movie.

Things such as refraining from excessive drinking and maintaining a healthy lifestyle are pretty significant. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could meet a woman that you truly enjoy spending time with?

Are you wholesome in your own eyes?

You're welcome to consider yourself the wholesome type that is looking for a wholesome partner if that's what you prefer. Just be sure to take your time. Spend less time with women you're not interested in and put out more effort to choose the right one instead of taking whatever opportunity comes your way.

 

I didn't say my type is based on a TV character. I said that was one well known example. Kind of like the "mean girl" from TV shows or movies or on the guy side the popular jock. 

Of course it would be wonderful to meet a woman I could truly enjoy spending time with. That's what I'm trying and asking for help to find!

Yes I'm very whole in my own eyes. I've asked people to describe me and that's something that comes up a lot.

I don't want to waste time with women I'm not interested in. So anything I can do to help find ones I am and avoid ones I'm not would be helpful. 

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7 hours ago, stillafool said:

What race are you OP?

White with part hispanic.

I don't want to turn this thread into a whole discussion on race relations. I was just asking for help for what I can do better with my profile, not to justify why I and looking for what I am.

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32 minutes ago, max3732 said:

Where I live it's a "majority minority" area so it's very difficult to find someone white non-hispanic that's American. Nearly every profile I see says some other country or is African American. So they have a lot of different groups to chose from.

I definitely think of everyone guy as my competition. I don't really know what to change. 

I didn't say my type is based on a TV character. I said that was one well known example. Kind of like the "mean girl" from TV shows or movies or on the guy side the popular jock. 

Of course it would be wonderful to meet a woman I could truly enjoy spending time with. That's what I'm trying and asking for help to find!

Yes I'm very whole in my own eyes. I've asked people to describe me and that's something that comes up a lot.

I don't want to waste time with women I'm not interested in. So anything I can do to help find ones I am and avoid ones I'm not would be helpful. 

After growing up and interacting with wide variety of races and religions I definitely learned what I am and am not attracted to for marriage. It would be much easier if I didn't have the preferences I do, but those are what I want and I'm not going to settle. 

White with part hispanic.

I don't want to turn this thread into a whole discussion on race relations. I was just asking for help for what I can do better with my profile, not to justify why I and looking for what I am.

What exactly are you attracted to?

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1 hour ago, max3732 said:

I didn't say my type is based on a TV character. I said that was one well known example.

Sorry about that. 

1 hour ago, max3732 said:

I don't want to waste time with women I'm not interested in. So anything I can do to help find ones I am and avoid ones I'm not would be helpful. 

Then don't waste your time on women who don't appeal to you by going on dates with them:

13 hours ago, max3732 said:

I'd be fine just getting 1 match if it was with the kind of woman I'd want to go out with. Even the 2 women I did go out with recently weren't really my type but I gave them a shot. My date coming up it's the same way.

If I were to suggest anything to you regarding your profile, I would suggest dropping the word "wholesome" altogether and stating that you value thoughtfulness, compassion, and generosity instead. Something along those lines.

Labeling yourself a "genuine, down-to-earth, and wholesome guy whose values and how you treat people matter more than your many hobbies and interests" means very little initially since anyone can make that claim online.  Someone alluded to this earlier, but it does also read as a touch pompous, even though I am sure you don't intend it that way. Maybe you could include a brief example instead? For instance, a kind gesture you really appreciate (that is sexy as all get-out). Keeping it "wholesome" here, (Hehe).

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, max3732 said:

I was just asking for help for what I can do better with my profile, not to justify why I and looking for what I am.

Improving your profile is never a bad thing. But if I understand correctly, there aren't many white women in  your area, so no matter how good your profile is, you're essentially looking for a needle in a haystack.   It would make better sense to stack the odds in your favour by moving somewhere which has a lot more white women.   Or open up to the women who are in your area.

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11 hours ago, basil67 said:

Improving your profile is never a bad thing. But if I understand correctly, there aren't many white women in  your area, so no matter how good your profile is, you're essentially looking for a needle in a haystack.   It would make better sense to stack the odds in your favour by moving somewhere which has a lot more white women.   Or open up to the women who are in your area.

The thing is they are a low %, but there are still a lot of them! I messaged over 100 on Match and got nothing back. It's frustrating when I see they've looked at my profile and they don't respond. Every single one I've sent something personalized about something in their profile or photo location. I just wish I could try to get to know them in person.

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13 minutes ago, max3732 said:

The thing is they are a low %, but there are still a lot of them! I messaged over 100 on Match and got nothing back. It's frustrating when I see they've looked at my profile and they don't respond. Every single one I've sent something personalized about something in their profile or photo location. I just wish I could try to get to know them in person.

They can't send messages on match unless they pay, I'd wager most of the women you messaged have free (and useless) accounts.  They basically use it for attention, just keep that in mind.

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On 7/6/2022 at 10:36 AM, max3732 said:

Trying to attract specific kind of woman

That alone is a difficult task. You'll have to be yourself in your bio, but you'll have to be more active than hanging out a fishing line with the right bait hoping to attract a "specific kind".

You'll have to browse profiles, see who interests you and send a message. As far as "specific kind", you'll have to use paid subscription apps to accomplish as much filtering as you desire. 

Unfortunately your profile tries to dance around a lot of things and that makes it too vague and generic. It's understandable you don't want to put anything off-putting in your bio, so just describe yourself better.

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On 7/7/2022 at 4:39 PM, Wiseman2 said:

That alone is a difficult task. You'll have to be yourself in your bio, but you'll have to be more active than hanging out a fishing line with the right bait hoping to attract a "specific kind".

You'll have to browse profiles, see who interests you and send a message. As far as "specific kind", you'll have to use paid subscription apps to accomplish as much filtering as you desire. 

Unfortunately your profile tries to dance around a lot of things and that makes it too vague and generic. It's understandable you don't want to put anything off-putting in your bio, so just describe yourself better.

Of course I'm sending everyone who interests me a message and/or swiping right on them. I have a Match account and have messaged over 100 women that interest me with no reply.

On Bumble I swipe right on a ton of them and on Hinge I send messages to everyone that looks interesting. I also have an account on the League and heart all the profiles that look like they might be a good match.

Anything else specifically you think I should include in my bio? I have all the basic info filled out, answered extra questions and wrote what I shared on here.

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