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3 hours ago, CityGurl said:

All i told him was that i was really into someone else and my feelings were just confirmed tonight, and i know our relationship isn’t going to withstand it. We’re doomed. I told him i felt the only thing to do at this point was to face the truth and just break up. Of course he didn’t want to and he kept trying to “make his case”, but I told him now was not the time. I told him we would talk more when I get back.

Omg, sorry if this sounds harsh, but could you have been any more insensitive and frankly, cruel? 

You said you want to make him see breaking up is for the best. 

How in the world is you falling hard and having strong feelings for another man "for the best" in your boyfriend's eyes?  

It's not what's best for him, it's what's best for YOU, at least own that

IMO, nothing shouid have been said about your feelings for George.  That's NOT why you are breaking up, so telling him was incredibly hurtful and not necessary.

George was simply the catalyst, your relationship with your bf had run its course, you are not ready to settle down, you want to experiment and explore the world and yourself. 

Please be kind when you speak with him and sensitive to his feelings.  Understand this is very painful for him and telling him about your feelings for George is rubbing salt into an already very deep wound.

You can end it kindly and respectfully without mentioning anything about George. 

 

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38 minutes ago, poppyfields said:

IMO, nothing shouid have been said about your feelings for George.  That's NOT why you are breaking up, so telling him was incredibly hurtful and not necessary.

OP, while I agree with this, I also recognize you’re young and inexperienced. My first break up was when I was 28 and if I had a do over, I’d certainly have changed how I did it and been more sensitive. But these experiences are what make us learn. 

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Indeed, I would have waited until we could talk in person and I would not have said anything about these feelings that you have developed for another man. If you are doing an honest assessment of your relationship and you have decided to end your relationship because it has run it’s course/is no longer meeting your needs… any feelings you may have developed for another man should not really play into your decision or the conversation you have with your partner.

So much for your comments a few pages back that “George” didn’t play into this decision at all - that you felt the need to be single. 

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Breaking up with your boyfriend is not a clear-cut question with a right or wrong answer.

If your feelings for George are the primary reason, you would no longer like to stay in a relationship with your boyfriend, you might have to bite the bullet and tell him. The act of providing some kind of closure to your boyfriend, rather than leaving him confused with no idea what happened, is a kind gesture.

On the other hand, IF your feelings are simply the culmination of many other problems in the relationship, there is no need to bring it up. You probably already have enough of a reason to end things.

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Well, another update. I finally ended it with my bf today. I had already told him how i felt friday night, so i think he knew what was coming. But it was still really hard for him (and me).

I saw afterwards that a lot of you told me i shouldn’t mention George, but imo i don’t think this would be a good idea. I had already tried to break up with him 2 weeks ago without mentioning George and it was a dismal failure.  I told him everything you all recommended – i felt trapped, i need to be alone for awhile, not fair to him to stay with him just for the security, there is no more passion or excitement, blah blah blah, but he kept saying this was normal in a relationship and we could work through it. He couldn’t understand why i wanted to just give up. And since i didn’t want to mention George i really couldn’t give him a good answer. I ended up feeling sorry for him and agreed to keep working on my “issues”.  or maybe it was just a phase and these feelings would pass.  and so nothing was resolved. and there was no way i was gonna repeat all of that.

I also went into this vowing to be completely honest with him, i feel like he deserves to know the whole truth, and i don’t think it would be very honest to act like this had nothing whatsoever to do with some hot guy being in the picture.

I’m just not sure i entirely agree with those of you who keep saying that this is all about me.  I’m just not convinced yet that any of this would be happening if George wasn’t in the picture.  I mean, yes, i was already questioning our relationship, but i’m not sure it would have led to anything until i started having feelings for another guy.

I began by telling him that I still loved him and always would (after all, he was my first love), but that I have feelings for someone else, and I can't keep feeling like this when he gives me his 100% but me not to him. He was a little pissed, he felt like he'd been lied to. He said i should have just told him all this from the beginning, instead of making him wonder what was wrong.

I told him I didn’t want to hurt him. He said he would have been less hurt if he knew the truth. He asked me if i knew how many nights he was up all night worrying about what in the world was wrong and what happened to the woman i loved? I told him i had no idea. He said every night for the past month, and i could have spared him all that just by being truthful. He said if he just knew the truth he would have had no choice but to have to accept it and move on.  But because i didn’t mention another guy he kept thinking that it was something that could be “fixed” and maybe we could work it out.  Now it was too late.

Then he told me every relationship will have it's problems so if I'm looking for one without it, it won't happen.

I feel really good that i was honest. I answered most all his questions and told him the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The only thing i didn’t feel comfortable telling him was when he started asking personal questions about me and George, like did we kiss yet or did i think we were going to have sex. I told him now that we’re broken up my sex life was not any of his business, nor was his mine. He didn’t like that and kept prying but i stood my ground and he eventually admitted i was right and apologized.

I feel a little bit more free now, but it's really weird because we live together so tonight i’m staying at a friend's house. I think I might stay with my parents until I get an apt. I feel a little bit lost because we had everything together and did everything together. We were basically living like we were married ever since i moved in with him. It would be so much easier to get ready for work in the morning there and just get my groceries from home, etc.

Another thing that seems really weird is aren’t we supposed to still talk now? And maybe even still be friends?  But now he doesn’t seem to want to even talk to me at all.  When he was helping me take some of my stuff to my friend’s it was the longest hour of my life.  He just drove the whole way without saying a word. And when he was pulling his truck out of the driveway for me to get out he didn't even say goodbye or anything, he just asked me if I have everything and drove off.   
 

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6 minutes ago, CityGurl said:

Another thing that seems really weird is aren’t we supposed to still talk now? And maybe even still be friends?  But now he doesn’t seem to want to even talk to me at all.  When he was helping me take some of my stuff to my friend’s it was the longest hour of my life.  He just drove the whole way without saying a word. And when he was pulling his truck out of the driveway for me to get out he didn't even say goodbye or anything, he just asked me if I have everything and drove off.   
 

It's good that you've ended this.

But no, it's not the slightest bit weird that he doesn't want to talk to you or say goodbye.  You've just left him for someone else...so why would you think he'd want to wish you well or stay in contact?   He was very well controlled in not losing his temper with you, so have some compassion for him needing to process this in whatever way he needs to. 

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4 hours ago, CityGurl said:

And maybe even still be friends? 

No, you absolutely cannot be friends right now. Most exes can't, in the aftermath of a break-up. And there is no way on earth he is going to want to be your friend and watch your new thing with George from the sidelines. 

He is in a world of hurt. He is going to a need a long time to process this, and heal. Maybe someday in the future you can be on friendly terms again, but that won't be any time soon. And that is better for both of you. He needs to accept the break-up and heal, and you need to be sure you don't rely on him to help you in the transition to being single. You will need to learn to stand on your own two feet, without him in your life. 

4 hours ago, CityGurl said:

He just drove the whole way without saying a word. And when he was pulling his truck out of the driveway for me to get out he didn't even say goodbye or anything,

You can't expect more than tihis. You've just broken up and told him there is someone else. You are not his favourite person right now and has nothing to say to you. You have to be more realistic and a little compassionate here. Let him handle it in whichever manner is best for him, and if that includes being cold to you, you have to deal with it. 

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9 hours ago, CityGurl said:

 it's really weird because we live together so tonight i’m staying at a friend's house. I think I might stay with my parents until I get an apt. 

Yes. Move out asap. Put your stuff in storage and stay with your parents until you find a place. Focus on logistics. Sever all finances and accounts. Have your mail forwarded to your parents. Change your address on all your accounts.  Does he or do his parents want you to reimburse them for tuition? You'll have to get financial aid, ask your own parents or work and go to school part time.

As far as telling him about george, it's water under the bridge now. Focus on moving out.

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Well, my emotions have finally crashed in. Starting this morning when I didn't get ready for work at my own house.

I'm staying with my parents and sister for awhile which is good, but i’m not sure i like it there. My room is too small and it’s too crowded.  And I’m used to living in my own house and having everything exactly where i want it, but now i have to navigate through all the clutter and it’s really difficult.

I still feel pretty confident in my decision to leave him but the problem is i was really comfortable living there. It was great to have all that space and to be able to arrange things how i wanted, and i guess i already miss my old lifestyle. I want my house back. (That’s so selfish, I know)

I’ve even considered asking my bf to let me just stay there till i get an apt. The house has a mother-in-law suite which has its own kitchenette and bathroom. I would just be a tenant/roommate, he could use the money, and because it’s a totally independent area with its own entrance we would never even need to cross paths. Just for like a month or so till i get my own place. I was going to talk to him about this tonite.

I don’t know, is that too crazy?

I am also still struggling with some negative emotions.

The first is fear (and doubt?) I haven’t been single in a long time and I’m already scared. Am i ever going to end up with a good guy again? Is it going to be just one bad relationship after another? And then i’ll look back and realize that this was the worst decision of my life?  I’m second guessing myself and it’s killing me.  Uuuuunnnggghhh!

The other is guilt. I feel so guilty!  I feel like i’m a terrible person and everything is my fault. I just feel bad for Bruce and his family and that he has to hurt because I'm a whack job. I would never wish this on anyone.  Uuuunnngghhh!

I guess it's just going to be hard for awhile.

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The way you ended that relationship there is no going back, ever. [ ]

The fact that you believe you two should still be friends and talk suggests you don't really understand the magnitude of what just happened. You will, unfortunately it will likely get tougher for you since you admit you would not have broken up not for this other guy.

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1 hour ago, CityGurl said:

I want my house back.

You can’t go back. It’s not your house and it would be totally inappropriate for you to ask to stay after you end your relationship and tell him that there is another man. 

I appreciate that you miss the comforts of “home,” but this is what you’ve chosen and you now need to deal with the consequences of your decision. You will be fine - people break up and life goes on… If your intent is to pursue this other relationship, you did the right thing (even if it doesn’t feel like it…).

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8 minutes ago, BaileyB said:

You can’t go back. It’s not your house and it would be totally inappropriate for you to ask to stay after you end your relationship and tell him that there is another man. 

 

8 minutes ago, lonelyplanetmoon said:

And being honest with your bf like that took courage so kudos to you for that.

Agree.

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On 6/26/2022 at 8:33 PM, CityGurl said:

Well, another update. I finally ended it with my bf today. I had already told him how i felt friday night, so i think he knew what was coming. But it was still really hard for him (and me).

I saw afterwards that a lot of you told me i shouldn’t mention George, but imo i don’t think this would be a good idea. I had already tried to break up with him 2 weeks ago without mentioning George and it was a dismal failure.  I told him everything you all recommended – i felt trapped, i need to be alone for awhile, not fair to him to stay with him just for the security, there is no more passion or excitement, blah blah blah, but he kept saying this was normal in a relationship and we could work through it. He couldn’t understand why i wanted to just give up. And since i didn’t want to mention George i really couldn’t give him a good answer. I ended up feeling sorry for him and agreed to keep working on my “issues”.  or maybe it was just a phase and these feelings would pass.  and so nothing was resolved. and there was no way i was gonna repeat all of that.

I also went into this vowing to be completely honest with him, i feel like he deserves to know the whole truth, and i don’t think it would be very honest to act like this had nothing whatsoever to do with some hot guy being in the picture.

I’m just not sure i entirely agree with those of you who keep saying that this is all about me.  I’m just not convinced yet that any of this would be happening if George wasn’t in the picture.  I mean, yes, i was already questioning our relationship, but i’m not sure it would have led to anything until i started having feelings for another guy.

I began by telling him that I still loved him and always would (after all, he was my first love), but that I have feelings for someone else, and I can't keep feeling like this when he gives me his 100% but me not to him. He was a little pissed, he felt like he'd been lied to. He said i should have just told him all this from the beginning, instead of making him wonder what was wrong.

I told him I didn’t want to hurt him. He said he would have been less hurt if he knew the truth. He asked me if i knew how many nights he was up all night worrying about what in the world was wrong and what happened to the woman i loved? I told him i had no idea. He said every night for the past month, and i could have spared him all that just by being truthful. He said if he just knew the truth he would have had no choice but to have to accept it and move on.  But because i didn’t mention another guy he kept thinking that it was something that could be “fixed” and maybe we could work it out.  Now it was too late.

Then he told me every relationship will have it's problems so if I'm looking for one without it, it won't happen.

I feel really good that i was honest. I answered most all his questions and told him the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The only thing i didn’t feel comfortable telling him was when he started asking personal questions about me and George, like did we kiss yet or did i think we were going to have sex. I told him now that we’re broken up my sex life was not any of his business, nor was his mine. He didn’t like that and kept prying but i stood my ground and he eventually admitted i was right and apologized.

I feel a little bit more free now, but it's really weird because we live together so tonight i’m staying at a friend's house. I think I might stay with my parents until I get an apt. I feel a little bit lost because we had everything together and did everything together. We were basically living like we were married ever since i moved in with him. It would be so much easier to get ready for work in the morning there and just get my groceries from home, etc.

Another thing that seems really weird is aren’t we supposed to still talk now? And maybe even still be friends?  But now he doesn’t seem to want to even talk to me at all.  When he was helping me take some of my stuff to my friend’s it was the longest hour of my life.  He just drove the whole way without saying a word. And when he was pulling his truck out of the driveway for me to get out he didn't even say goodbye or anything, he just asked me if I have everything and drove off.   
 

You can’t turn a switch and go from lovers to friends.  Mayb i coukd happen long in the future like if you still have common friends so you may see each other.

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4 hours ago, CityGurl said:

I would just be a tenant/roommate, he could use the money, and because it’s a totally independent area with its own entrance we would never even need to cross paths. Just for like a month or so till i get my own place. I was going to talk to him about this tonite.

I don’t know, is that too crazy?

Given that you've just broken his heart and he'd didn't wish you well when you left, why do you think he'd do you any favours?  The idea is completely absurd.   Our actions all have consequences, and staying in a poky room at your family home is a natural consequence.

Unless you have more stuff which needs to be collected, do not call him.  Ever.

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6 hours ago, CityGurl said:

I’ve even considered asking my ex-bf to let me just stay there till i get an apt.

Fixed it for you. And no, you can't do this. It would be completely inappropriate and selfish of you. You did the right thing ending it, but now you have to live with fall-out. It's not your house anymore, and you can't live there. Just don't. 

6 hours ago, CityGurl said:

Am i ever going to end up with a good guy again?

Yes, and you will be more into him than you were into your ex. 

6 hours ago, CityGurl said:

The other is guilt. I feel so guilty!

This will fade, in time. Yes, it's going to be hard for a while. But that doesn't mean you made a mistake. With difficulty comes growth, and you will learn from all of this. You will also get to a more mature place and meet a guy who is a better match for you. Your ex wasn't it anymore. 

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7 hours ago, CityGurl said:

The other is guilt. I feel so guilty!  I feel like i’m a terrible person and everything is my fault. I just feel bad for Bruce and his family and that he has to hurt because I'm a whack job. I would never wish this on anyone. 

Guilt is actually good to feel even though it feels horrible. It means you have empathy and actually care. And you did the right thing even though it was hard. That shows a lot of character. Very often the right thing is the hard thing. And everything is temporary, including your  new living arrangements. 

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13 hours ago, CityGurl said:

Well, my emotions have finally crashed in. Starting this morning when I didn't get ready for work at my own house.

I'm staying with my parents and sister for awhile which is good, but i’m not sure i like it there. My room is too small and it’s too crowded.  And I’m used to living in my own house and having everything exactly where i want it, but now i have to navigate through all the clutter and it’s really difficult.

I still feel pretty confident in my decision to leave him but the problem is i was really comfortable living there. It was great to have all that space and to be able to arrange things how i wanted, and i guess i already miss my old lifestyle. I want my house back. (That’s so selfish, I know)

I’ve even considered asking my bf to let me just stay there till i get an apt. The house has a mother-in-law suite which has its own kitchenette and bathroom. I would just be a tenant/roommate, he could use the money, and because it’s a totally independent area with its own entrance we would never even need to cross paths. Just for like a month or so till i get my own place. I was going to talk to him about this tonite.

I don’t know, is that too crazy?

I am also still struggling with some negative emotions.

The first is fear (and doubt?) I haven’t been single in a long time and I’m already scared. Am i ever going to end up with a good guy again? Is it going to be just one bad relationship after another? And then i’ll look back and realize that this was the worst decision of my life?  I’m second guessing myself and it’s killing me.  Uuuuunnnggghhh!

The other is guilt. I feel so guilty!  I feel like i’m a terrible person and everything is my fault. I just feel bad for Bruce and his family and that he has to hurt because I'm a whack job. I would never wish this on anyone.  Uuuunnngghhh!

I guess it's just going to be hard for awhile.

I think you have some issues. I still can't wrap my head around that you call your boyfriend and tell him you're breaking up with him for another guy, but yet you don't want to do it over the phone? You did do it over the phone, can't take that back. If you're having "bad relationships after another" then I think you need to start having a better relationship with yourself. The relationship you ended didn't seem all that bad, YOU neglected that relationship because of a crush.  

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13 hours ago, CityGurl said:

I still feel pretty confident in my decision to leave him but the problem is i was really comfortable living there. I’ve even considered asking my bf to let me just stay there till i get an apt.

Let your BF decide if he wants you to stay or not, given the news about your crush on/affair with George.

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3 hours ago, Wiseman2 said:

Let your BF decide if he wants you to stay or not, given the news about your crush on/affair with George.

I agree that you should not even be considering wanting to move back to your boyfriends home. 
 

You go used to him “looking after you” and you now need to get used to looking after yourself.
 

I can’t think of one good reason why it would be in his interests to let you stay. You’d be using him on all levels and that is simply wrong. 
 

Of course you’re going to miss your “provider” but you can’t have your cake and eat it. 
 

Do the right thing. Leave your (now ex) boyfriend alone and focus on moving forward with your own life, on your own. 

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No, you're NOT supposed to be friends right now. You can not be friends right now. Where did you get the idea that you could be friends now? Maybe you're confusing your life with middle school and high school. When we're young, it's a (I wanna say more "male") thing to PRETEND that you can be friends and that you wish the other person the best and so on. 

If you are friends now, then every good thing you do, every time you listen to him or encourage him, will bring up his love for you and he'll assume you want to reconcile. This is basically biological--almost cannot be avoided. Any helpful contact just confuses the partner who is being dumped--it reignites their hopes, even when they deny such. 

He needs to diminish you in his life and elevate other people, including friends .And he needs to turn to these people for support. There is no gentle way to break up with someone. It's an abrupt act when one person wants to break up. There is no way to soften it. The more you do try to soften the blow, the more the person thinks you are re-considering things. And yes, the awkwardness of logistics when breaking up--the silences, the confusion as one person does a favor for another as part of the move-out--yes that's all part of a breakup of people who live together. Unavoidable unless you are super-rich and can check into a hotel and then hire movers to do all the moving out logistics. 

I differ with some of the earlier comments. In my view, it OK if you are doing this breakup for you. That's what we break up: for us! Breaking up is selfish, but so is agreeing to date someone in the first place. But yes, since you've lost interest, then ultimately yes, it is best for the other person. Not in the unselfish sense, but in the sense that they have a right to know that their partner no longer wants to be with them. And they need that information so they can stop investing in us and move on. It's cruel to withhold that information. 

And you know, telling him about the new man, I think that is fine. Frankly, when people again try to soften the blow, the word gets out anywhere. Your (ex) bf would be following you on social media, he'll have friends who randomly hear things and it's likely he'd find out about new man quite quickly. So hiding that--no, I don't think that works. Your bf would feel more discarded and more betrayed to learn about new guy from social media and so on. 

Also, sometimes we just need to tell the full brutal truth to get it over to the other person that we are no longer interested. I swear every time I softened things I just created more problems and confusion. The person wonders: why did we break up? Which makes sense because we haven't given them a real reason. And a partner can read us and our tone and body language--and they KNOW when we're holding back. It was fine to tell him about the new man, especially given how resistant he was to believing you wanted to break up. 

 

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It's time for you to be on your own for a while.   Date around, and organize your situation so you can move into a place of your own or with a roommate soon.  Leave your ex boyfriend alone PLEASE.  Good luck.

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On 6/24/2022 at 6:43 PM, CityGurl said:

But his family has helped me with my tuition and he doesn't ask me to help pay any household expenses.

Translation:  he's largely supporting you.

Edit: nvm, I see you broke up.  Now you can both on to partners who are more suitable.

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First, I'd just like to say thanks to everyone that has posted anything regarding my issues. Thank you for taking the time to care about someone else's problems.

Well, i'm still hurting, but things are looking better. I talked to Bruce last night and at least he doesn't hate me.  And at least we're talking. 

He said i could crash in the 'mom-suite' until i find an apt. he said not to worry about any rent but it couldn't be too long. His parents crash there when they visit him. I told him i could probably find an apt in less than a month.

I'm happy about that cuz living with my mom and sister wasn't gonna work out. I'll be able to organize my life now till i get my own place.

It's also clear that we will be able to stay friends. He's still crushed, but he told me he understands that i can't help my feelings.

I'm trying to listen to all the advice, but i don't think you guys understand my situation. I still have stuff at the house. I'll need a uhaul to move it all out. So i couldn't really stop talking to him anyways.

Plus, i still care for him deeply.  I wouldn't feel comfortable never speaking to him again.  I couldn't imagine cutting someone off after a mostly great 4 yr relationship. I will always love him.  We connect emotionally, but sexually it's just not there anymore.

6 hours ago, Lotsgoingon said:

No, you're NOT supposed to be friends right now. You can not be friends right now. Where did you get the idea that you could be friends now? Maybe you're confusing your life with middle school and high school. When we're young, it's a (I wanna say more "male") thing to PRETEND that you can be friends and that you wish the other person the best and so on. 

If you are friends now, then every good thing you do, every time you listen to him or encourage him, will bring up his love for you and he'll assume you want to reconcile. This is basically biological--almost cannot be avoided. Any helpful contact just confuses the partner who is being dumped--it reignites their hopes, even when they deny such. 

yes i understand your concern. But i made it very clear to him that we're not together anymore. Even if we tried dating again at some point, it would not be the same.  I would still want to be able to date others, and he could too. We would not be a 'couple'. He understands i need to be single now and see where it goes. we talked for a long time and it's quite clear to me that he understands this. 

So yes, he still is hoping, at least in the back of his mind. He loves me and he will probably never totally get over me until he finds someone else.  And that is my wish for him.  And i know he will (eventually) and then he will be free too.

But until then i want him to know that i'll be there for him if he needs to talk.  I couldn't imagine ghosting him.  I'll always love him even if i don't want him as a boyfriend anymore.

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28 minutes ago, CityGurl said:

It's also clear that we will be able to stay friends. He's still crushed, but he told me he understands that i can't help my feelings.

Hey @CityGurl you know my story is very similar if not identical to yours (posted earlier in the thread).  My ex said same thing -- that he wanted to be friends.  

Don't buy it, he does NOT want to be "friends," there is a hidden agenda there, he hopes by remaining friends and being your "white knight" (doing things for you, etc), you will realize what a mistake you made and want to go back to him and marry him.

Also, by remaining friends, if you end up dating George, you can expect major drama with George, he's NOT gonna like it and rightfully so imo!  My new boyfriend almost broke up with me one night when I was seeing my ex (as friends), I mean he literally flipped a lid, and it wasn't pretty!

He was young, younger than Bruce, and hot-tempered, but nevertheless it's not respecting George to remain "friends" with Bruce.

It's actually pretty selfish and I admit I was selfish in doing so myself, but I learned.

If the shoe were on the other foot, would you want your new boyfriend remaining friends with HIS ex and living at her home?

I have no right to judge since I did same thing myself at your age so I won't.

But holy cow, what a mess.   Good luck.

 

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1 hour ago, CityGurl said:

So yes, he still is hoping, at least in the back of his mind.

So basically, the fact that he's still in love with you gives you the opportunity to use him for accommodation so that you can live more comfortably.   This is shameful behaviour.

 

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