Friend Zoned After First Date

[Emmylou_H]

@dramafreezone thank you for your response. That makes sense.

[Emmylou_H]

@flitzanu yes he doesn’t want to date me but why offer friendship? He seemed so adamant about us being friends and even sent a song at the end of the night that was basically titled “It Will be Alright”

[smackie9]

29 minutes ago, Emmylou_H said:

@flitzanu yes he doesn’t want to date me but why offer friendship? He seemed so adamant about us being friends and even sent a song at the end of the night that was basically titled “It Will be Alright”

Like someone one posted, he's keeping you emotionally hooked just in case he needs sex/FWB.

[Versacehottie]

3 hours ago, dramafreezone said:

It may just be too much too fast for him, just like he said.  It's probably nothing that you said or did.

When it comes to relationships guys take breakups just as hard if not harder than women.  He thought he was ready to move on and I think he's seeing that isn't the case.  You may be very pretty and he may like you a lot but there's no way to compete with that attachment he had with that other woman until it's gone, and that takes time.  I think if he just wanted you for sex he could lead you on but he's not doing that, he's giving you an out.

Totally agree. Could it be possible that he's simply just not ready? I know so many couples that are together because people didn't freak out on the timing wanting the perfect b/w answer in a somewhat arbitrary timeline. (I get it that you met him and went on a date but I also believe his story that he only then discovered he just wasn't ready). 

Rather than try to figure out his cut and dried motives and the whole working of his brain and love life and future, I think what you really need to do is figure out what you are going to do and how to handle it.  Take the power back.  In the course of this thread, you're now at the stage where you are wondering what you did wrong Girl don't go there. I do think he felt from you that you were "all in" perhaps..but would you change anything? It was only one date. Maybe how open and fun and all in you were attracted him to you to the point it scared him.  It's generally a good thing to have a good first date and it seems like you did.

So here's the thing for whatever the reason, the "prescription" is about the same...tell him something like you appreciate where he is in his life and all that and maybe you can be friends in the future but for now you think it's best if you don't talk and then don't stay in contact. If you stay in contact, he's bound to use you for ego boost and go hot/cold on you while he processes his breakup. You need him to know and believe you are going to keep moving on (and which you should do as well). If the connection is remarkable on some level, serious level, you will probably hear from him in the future. You will gain a lot of his respect by handling it something like this. It's kind of like saying: i respect your position and i've got my own goals etc and i'm going to keep doing them, ie I've got my own position to advocate in my life.

So not to get your hopes up but a girl I know just got engaged to a guy from pretty much the same scenario. I think she didn't speak to him for about 4 months or so. Actually when they started talking again it wasn't like this magic fairy tale either--it was probably STILL a little too soon for him but he was in a much better place and at this point the girl was on much more even footing with the memory of his ex-gf.  I literally know quite a few stories like that but this one is particularly good bc they just got engaged and it just happened. So step back, treated him kindly in your message back to him and then go on living your life. I wouldn't' block him but I wouldn't stay in contact or let him be in contact with you at this point. If you keep posting on here about this situation (and take this option) we can help you to figure out when the time is right to allow or be in contact. Good luck

ps if you take the other sort of option which is to cut contact and just kind of not believe what he says or see ulterior motives in what he say/did, obviously you can do that too. I wouldn't bc it's much more likely that what he said especially that long winded and detailed is true. He's figuring himself out. He's got nothing to offer you in a relationship at this time. Bad timing. (which will probably mean he will continue to date for some companionship/ego boost reasons in the meantime; take with a grain of salt). 

[flitzanu]

1 hour ago, Emmylou_H said:

@flitzanu yes he doesn’t want to date me but why offer friendship? He seemed so adamant about us being friends and even sent a song at the end of the night that was basically titled “It Will be Alright”

he offered friendship so that he can keep you around to have sex with, and he told you he doesn't want to date you so now he doesn't have to feel any guilt or remorse when you ultimately start trying to bring up "dating" because he can tell you that he already told you no

[dramafreezone]

1 hour ago, smackie9 said:

Like someone one posted, he's keeping you emotionally hooked just in case he needs sex/FWB.

Or, he might want to be her friend, or may want to date her in the future when he's over his ex.

We don't always have to assume evil intentions.  If he wanted sex he didn't have to say any of what he said, he could've just led her on and continued having sex with her until it was no longer an option.  I think for certain he wants to remain on good terms with her, there's nothing wrong with that.

Edited December 30, 2021 by dramafreezone

[Emmylou_H]

@Versacehottiethank you SO very much for your response. Your perspective on this matter is so helpful. I wish I would have seen your thoughts of response before I sent mine to him yesterday. It would have been wise for me to set that boundary with him and protect myself by telling him it’s not healthy for me to continue and engage in a friendship at this time. IF I ever hear from him again, I’ll be sure to write something like what you suggested. I certainly won’t be the first to reach out because I don’t think that would be healthy for me to do at this point. I want to be angry at the situation and at him but your response helps me be more open-minded about what happened and how to react to it. Thanks again

[Allupinnit]

It's too bad he couldn't figure out he "wasn't ready" before you had sex with him, but men on these dating apps are notorious for the ol' pump n' dump.

I think he offered up the friends thing to make himself feel better, selfishly.  You can't just be friends with someone you have romantic feelings for.

[smackie9]

40 minutes ago, dramafreezone said:

Or, he might want to be her friend, or may want to date her in the future when he's over his ex.

We don't always have to assume evil intentions.  If he wanted sex he didn't have to say any of what he said, he could've just led her on and continued having sex with her until it was no longer an option.  I think for certain he wants to remain on good terms with her, there's nothing wrong with that.

Then why be on a dating app, go out on dates and get his date emotionally invested then drop the bomb "Oh I'm not over my ex...let's just be friends" Women do this kind of crap too.

[ccas93]

2 hours ago, Emmylou_H said:

@flitzanu  He seemed so adamant about us being friends and even sent a song at the end of the night that was basically titled “It Will be Alright”

for telling someone he hung out with once that he doesn't wish to date them? I might do something like that for a depressed friend who lost a loved one or failed an important exam or something.. jeez

[Allupinnit]

3 minutes ago, smackie9 said:

Then why be on a dating app, go out on dates and get his date emotionally invested then drop the bomb "Oh I'm not over my ex...let's just be friends" Women do this kind of crap too.

Post-nut clarity.  

[dramafreezone]

43 minutes ago, smackie9 said:

Then why be on a dating app, go out on dates and get his date emotionally invested then drop the bomb "Oh I'm not over my ex...let's just be friends" Women do this kind of crap too.

He was emotionally invested too, they had an mutually pleasurable experience.   If this was all about sex why wouldn't he just tell her whatever she wanted to hear and keep having sex with her, or just ghost her?

Some people think they know what they want, and then they change their minds.  It doesn't make the predatory, it makes them human.

Yes women do that too, I don't think that they're doing it intentionally, i just think people get confused.  People think the best way to get over an ex is to get with a new lover but that really doesn't work that well when you really loved that ex.

In any event, I think assuming the worst of people only hurts the person that's doing the assuming.  They'll never allow anyone to get close to them.  Most people are inherently good people, can't let the actions of a few taint an entire gender.

Edited December 30, 2021 by dramafreezone

[endlessabyss]

I've been in situations like this, where you're hanging out with somebody, and saying all the right things, but in the back of your mind you kind of feel like you're settling or that the attraction isn't 100%.

Then you end up having sex, and kind of feel bad about it afterwards, especially if the person is being overly emotional.  That last person I was with I kind of dragged along.  Very nice person, but she wanted more than what I was willing to give; I was one foot in one foot out.

I would stay the weekend with her, and when I'd leave Sunday evening I'd just want to be left alone.  I wouldn't text her for a few days after, and she would get pissed, because she felt like I wasn't showing interest.

Was it wrong to degree?  Maybe.

I never said anything to her about wanting to be in a relationship, and she agreed to that in the beginning, but that ended up with her wanting attention everyday, and I wasn't down with that.

I am 100% confident that him saying all the flattering things, but only wanting to be friends, is his way of trying to say we can hook up, but nothing more.

Plus, he's on Tinder.  From what I'm aware that is strictly a hook-up app.  I don't know many people that found their future husband or wife on there.

Edited December 30, 2021 by endlessabyss

[lonelyplanetmoon]

He has said he does not want a relationship with you.  Believe him that he is telling the truth.

He uses the friendship line so that he can justify using you until he finds someone he does want to be in a relationship with.  Don’t fall for it.

I think you kinda came on too strong anyway and gave away the goods too early.  He does not value you now.  And first impressions are everything.

‘Tell him goodbye have a good life and forget about him.  Do not engage with him if he breadcrumbs you.Ignore him.  Seriously you have to make him feel that your time is valuable.

Only accept him on your terms which is when he wants to date you seriously.  If he does not offer that, then just ignore.

[stillafool]

33 minutes ago, endlessabyss said:

I never said anything to her about wanting to be in a relationship, and she agreed to that in the beginning, but that ended up with her wanting attention everyday, and I wasn't down with that.

Why does the keep happening?  We see it here all the time.  Girls agreeing to no relationship and then BOOM - "why isn't he texting me?"  - um, because he's not your boyfriend.

[Versacehottie]

2 hours ago, dramafreezone said:

Or, he might want to be her friend, or may want to date her in the future when he's over his ex.

We don't always have to assume evil intentions.  If he wanted sex he didn't have to say any of what he said, he could've just led her on and continued having sex with her until it was no longer an option.  I think for certain he wants to remain on good terms with her, there's nothing wrong with that.

Totally agree. And IMO she shouldn't do anything physical or even be like an emotional girlfriend while he's processing this. That CHOICE is up to her as well as it is up to him. Like he can try but she doesn't have to accept his calls, texts or attempts to be physical.  

What typically happens is most people that talk about this friend zone stuff and mix it up with getting physical do it to try to change the person's mind who isn't ready for a relationship. So they are acting in a devalued position and what I think is one of the most crucial time periods, ie the beginning, where the reluctant person is forming their opinion of you in all ways and the hopeful person is giving full gf (or bf) experience hoping it will turn into more. Instead of hearing what the person has said, respecting where he is in his life, and asserting your value at that time and sticking with it...at least for enough time for the person to get into a better state of mind/readyness to date and get a correct opinion of your value rather than the confused, devalued, desperate one.

If he was just trying to use her physically, he'd have said nothing so he could keep doing that and keep it confusing hot/cold to string that out. 

If he really just wants to be friends because he's ready for a relationship but is not interested in her like that, that's absolutely a possibility that time will tell. And although she's not looking for new friends necessarily, it never hurts to have a friend.  She can still do that on her terms of how she is exactly friends with him and if there's any interaction at all. In a way kick the can down the road until it's plausible that he's healed/ready. She shouldn't WAIT.  But I know other stories as well, where a true friendship continued later on down the line or just bumping into each other out and the love story that happened was really with one of his friends.  Meaning you never know what God/universe/whatever spiritual being you believe in is trying to lead you toward.

[dramafreezone]

17 minutes ago, Versacehottie said:

Totally agree. And IMO she shouldn't do anything physical or even be like an emotional girlfriend while he's processing this. That CHOICE is up to her as well as it is up to him. Like he can try but she doesn't have to accept his calls, texts or attempts to be physical.  

What typically happens is most people that talk about this friend zone stuff and mix it up with getting physical do it to try to change the person's mind who isn't ready for a relationship. So they are acting in a devalued position and what I think is one of the most crucial time periods, ie the beginning, where the reluctant person is forming their opinion of you in all ways and the hopeful person is giving full gf (or bf) experience hoping it will turn into more. Instead of hearing what the person has said, respecting where he is in his life, and asserting your value at that time and sticking with it...at least for enough time for the person to get into a better state of mind/readyness to date and get a correct opinion of your value rather than the confused, devalued, desperate one.

If he was just trying to use her physically, he'd have said nothing so he could keep doing that and keep it confusing hot/cold to string that out. 

If he really just wants to be friends because he's ready for a relationship but is not interested in her like that, that's absolutely a possibility that time will tell. And although she's not looking for new friends necessarily, it never hurts to have a friend.  She can still do that on her terms of how she is exactly friends with him and if there's any interaction at all. In a way kick the can down the road until it's plausible that he's healed/ready. She shouldn't WAIT.  But I know other stories as well, where a true friendship continued later on down the line or just bumping into each other out and the love story that happened was really with one of his friends.  Meaning you never know what God/universe/whatever spiritual being you believe in is trying to lead you toward.

I was responding to a different thread of yours but I'll respond here instead.

I agree with your thought that trying to determine his intent iis a fruitless endeavor for a couple of reasons.  First of all it's impossible because the only one that knows his intent for certain is him. 

Next, his intent is irrelevant when it comes to how she should respond.  Whether this guy maliciously targeted her as a part of a "pump and dump" or he was genuinely confused, he's not someone that's ready to date right now.  He should only be considered safe to date once you've been able to observe a consistent quality of behavior over an extended period of time.  If he does want to be friends then that should be apparent after a period of time in which he's fine to interact without the possibility of sex.  Luckily, the OP has free will and she can make decisions as to whether or not she wants to date him or have sex with him, just as she had free will during their first encounter.

I, like you, just believe that we don't have to make any definitive judgements about this guy.  Time will tell whether or not he's the creep that so many here think he is, or if he is a relatively honorable guy that inadvertently hurt the OP.  I tend to believe that his intent was not nefarious because I'm matching his actions with his words; it would have been really easy for him to just lie to keep having sex with her, that would be consistent with a sexual user type of guy.  I don't know how saying he's not ready for a relationship serves his interests if he was only interested in sex with her.

And if he wants to be in an FWB situation, umm, most guys want this.  If my female friends all wanted to hook up I'd be game.  It doesn't mean that I don't value them because we're not in a sexual relationship.

Edited December 31, 2021 by dramafreezone

[endlessabyss]

3 hours ago, stillafool said:

Why does the keep happening?  We see it here all the time.  Girls agreeing to no relationship and then BOOM - "why isn't he texting me?"  - um, because he's not your boyfriend.

Yea, before we started sleeping with each other the only stipulation she put on things was that if we would be exclusive while doing it, which was totally fine with me.  She was just concerned about STD's or whatever, and I told her I wasn't interested in anyone else sexually at the time, but her.

Then a month into it she started constant arguments with me over not sending her emoji texts in the morning.  This woman was actually a little older than me as well, which made it even more bizarre.

Very nice woman.  Exercise freak.  Amazing body.  But she definitely had some insecurity problems.  She always needed reassurance she was special.

 

 

[Versacehottie]

1 hour ago, Emmylou_H said:

@Versacehottiethank you SO very much for your response. Your perspective on this matter is so helpful. I wish I would have seen your thoughts of response before I sent mine to him yesterday. It would have been wise for me to set that boundary with him and protect myself by telling him it’s not healthy for me to continue and engage in a friendship at this time. IF I ever hear from him again, I’ll be sure to write something like what you suggested. I certainly won’t be the first to reach out because I don’t think that would be healthy for me to do at this point. I want to be angry at the situation and at him but your response helps me be more open-minded about what happened and how to react to it. Thanks again

Thanks...I didn't see what you wrote back to him yesterday. Regardless, you can still take the stance at ANY time. If you "agreed to be friends" then treat him like a distant acquaintance (I wouldn't' really recommend that but you can do it once and then fade off); better tactic would be to just reiterate or switch you postion to what it is now (provided you really think the new position). Listen you kind of have a gift in that he wrote a lot and was pretty darn open....thus you have the freedom to respond in a similar way.  Even if he just checks in in the next few days harmlessly like a friend, you can be nice & cordial for a text or two and then just say that you actually thought about what he said and feel like xyz, such as I think at least initially we should give it some time and space before we are genuine friends, that's what's best for me although I can understand what you are going through and I also had fun with you.

Yeah I re-read your posts on this thread and I think you are far too focused on him for one as well b/w answers and kind of knee jerk reactions in response to what happens. Not saying that as a put down but as a point where you could adjust things to your favor. Let's say he really did only feel a friend vibe or that you were too eager. If so, what details stand out to me from what you posted so far is that you're putting him on a pedestal in a way like it's all about him, his thoughts and his position...so much so that you are removing yourself from an app and swearing off dating like you can't take the pain of it all. How can you dial it down so that no one person---well here's the important part, except for YOU, matters more than any of this?  You have to make yourself the star of your own life and people usually will be less careless about potential opportunities with you.  Not saying that is entirely what is going on but it might be part of it--because you seem to phrase some of the things above like this is a pattern for you. So first and foremost in this off time (lol whether it's from him or just dating altogether), you've got to figure out how to feel more valuable and convey that value to others. Idk my reading skills on this are bad, I just saw that you made out but then others were saying you guys had sex. While first date hookups can work well sometimes, a lot of the time it confuses things... for everyone!  So one thing might be to remove the confusion by acting like a gatekeeper of who you let into your life..in all the ways (including physical).  I don't know how to word this without upsetting people because it does sometimes but on some level you need people to PROVE that they are worthy of being in your life. It's not necessarily games but a good analogy might be like the panama canal lol.  You know how it has those little gate stops at various points--IMO that's how you let someone into your life once they reach a threshold of good enough to let into the closer part of your life..and there are lots of stages to this.  Not saying it has to take forever but you need PROOF

[ExpatInItaly]

10 hours ago, Emmylou_H said:

I just wish he didn’t give me the impression he thought we connected on some deep level prior to us even meeting. 

Take this with a massive grain of salt any time someone says this without meeting you. 

You can't possibly be connected on some deep level without having met and spent time together. They're just fluffy words without much meaning when you don't know each other, so try not to get too swept up in that in the future. 

[Ami1uwant]

20 hours ago, Emmylou_H said:

@divegrl thank you for your kind words and advice. I was sure he was different, he is a really kind person and I’m looking for someone who shares common interests and is nice like he is. I don’t think it’s going to be easy for me to be friends with him. I’ll probably just keep holding on to hope that he will change his mind. Wondering why he wants to be friends anyway when he said he is very attracted to me.

He said early on he just got out of a serious relationship. What do you think that means?

[Emmylou_H]

@Versacehottie no that is really insightful of you to observe. I tend to be really picky with who I decide to like and I do put them on a pedestal and forgo my own needs. And I should have made him prove himself more before hooking up. I thought wow I really like this guy before we even met and followed my intuition and it worked against me as it usually does. So you are correct, I do tend to move too fast and compromise my needs and self-worth when I’m into someone. As far as what happened yes we had sex, and at the time I had no regrets and I’m just a very passionate and open person when I like someone. And he invited me to stay over and I did. With regard to whether or not he will contact me, I’m having my doubts. Weird that he messaged the same day I left his place, he didn’t take any time to pause and reflect on what happened so it must have not been good for him? I just get this feeling I’ll never hear from him again. Prior to meeting up we messaged a lot, every day for a week straight and he was very attentive to messaging. So to not hear from him all day gives me the sense that he won’t be reaching out anymore.

[ExpatInItaly]

27 minutes ago, Emmylou_H said:

So to not hear from him all day gives me the sense that he won’t be reaching out anymore.

And this is probably best. 

He was clear that he doesn't want to pursue this, so it's best that you don't get attached any further or harbour false hope. 

[Emmylou_H]

@ExpatInItaly yes I agree but that means he wasn’t truthful about being friends. 

[Versacehottie]

1 hour ago, Emmylou_H said:

@Versacehottie no that is really insightful of you to observe. I tend to be really picky with who I decide to like and I do put them on a pedestal and forgo my own needs. And I should have made him prove himself more before hooking up. I thought wow I really like this guy before we even met and followed my intuition and it worked against me as it usually does. So you are correct, I do tend to move too fast and compromise my needs and self-worth when I’m into someone. As far as what happened yes we had sex, and at the time I had no regrets and I’m just a very passionate and open person when I like someone. And he invited me to stay over and I did. With regard to whether or not he will contact me, I’m having my doubts. Weird that he messaged the same day I left his place, he didn’t take any time to pause and reflect on what happened so it must have not been good for him? I just get this feeling I’ll never hear from him again. Prior to meeting up we messaged a lot, every day for a week straight and he was very attentive to messaging. So to not hear from him all day gives me the sense that he won’t be reaching out anymore.

Thanks again Glad you can take the tough love/well-meant critique. Ok well with your explanation above I see a couple of things. I'll bold them.

I used to say this to people all the time on here: with the first bolded about "being picky with you decide to like": essential this means that in your mind you REALLY ARE jumping all the way to the "end" as I say...in that you've already decided you want him in your life, as your boyfriend, and maybe even husband. While it's good to be hopeful and optimistic and even picky, it's leading you down a wrong path that this is fated or something and that you still don't need those threshold checkpoints (about everything not just sex).  So basically you need to slow down and have more measured, paced, expectations.  Much better to just plan on having a good date and then DECIDE only if you want a second one. Don't jump further ahead than this. And break it down into smaller pieces if that's what you need to do, ie if you are still racing ahead. So being picky isn't your friend in this case.  You are weighting him with too much in terms of expectations because you think you want him and you still might be wrong. There's a lot to learn about a person. To me, you shouldn't have already decided who you like, until you go on the first date and even after that you can't get too carried away. Probably for you it's better to not do a huge long lead up until the first date of a lot of texting and calling, just go asap and have little expectations other than having a good time.

You're also putting a high amount of investment on someone once you decide you really like him on the backstory that you re picky!  They can feel the weight of those expectations; typically deduce you will do anything to get to the bf/gf label and lose respect for you and feel the pressure.  They are still deciding and without even one date you've "decided". No challenge; no discovery; unbalanced. you've got to think that in some ways the extended beginning period is the glue or foundation of people getting and staying together soooo if you don't draw it out a bit more then 9 times out 10 times, it's not enough uncertainty and sort of wondering and the attached excitement from both ends to want it to happen. A lot of guys (especially just broken up ones) need the time and space to emotionally fall for you. People fall in love with those that require something of them. And bring out their best to qualify not where they can phone it in.  So you definitely don't want to require phone it in behavior, which if you've already decided you're set on this person you are essentially doing that. Like you will accept their least amount of effort. And they lose interest. 

When you say "it worked against me as it always does", that's a fatalistic, all or nothing, b&w thinking that I caught elsewhere on your posts within this thread. It kinda can indicate poor self esteem or lack of faith in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself, how can you truly expect to draw another person toward you and into a relationship with you?  So IMO that's another reason, you can't/shouldn't pin all your hopes on one person--well correction, the person to pin the hopes on is you. But you should be more breezy and fun loving about dating. You think maybe you could limit the fatalistic stuff until you are 15 dates in?  You have to believe you will be fine no matter what. ... that makes you more attractive to people and less of a friend vibe because they can feel that other people would be romantically attracted to you too. So you need to work on that for every reason, including dating. If you don't know what it is look up scarcity mindset. You need to operate like you're not worried about your dating opportunities because they are abundant.  That's another thing that people under the label "picky" will back themselves into a bad corner. Try to move away from that sort of thinking in terms of at a minimum if you feel like you still want to be choosy about who you date or that's just inherent in you, have faith in your searching and finding skills, ie the guy you found through this picky search is not the only one you can find because you are a good searcher! And easily attract people to you. Just on a stats thing, the best way to approach it is to believe both of those things and work so that they are absolutely true AND also up the numbers of people you go on a first date with.  If you think of yourself as a fun person, good dater, up for any adventure (lol within reason), you should be able to go on lots of first dates and your dating skills will improve and was as your mindset about scarcity at the very least and at the best, you may meet someone that you really like that you wouldn't normally have given a chance.

"passionate and open person when you like someone" is kinda the same...you are jumping to the end is embedded in that statement. Not saying you shouldn't be who you are but there are still levels to it. Also other people aren't going to necessarily react in the same way and will only feel this as pressure or not get your value.  It's like with a statement like that you've jumped into bf/gf mode mentally and it scares people away bc there is no mystery, no discovery period and it lowers your value (the mindset mostly but also moving too fast physically with lots of people bc that can mean several things but guys tend to deduce that it's a low value move and apply it to you as a whole).  So you "can" be like that but it might not be the smartest way to play the game.  Try to think of rather than deciding you like someone and then getting them to CHOOSE you, that you should see if YOU WANT TO CHOOSE THEM. See the difference? It will usually color all your wording and interactions (in a good way) to switch that up.

With that whole last part of your paragraph above, I'd say again you are concentrating too much on him. Why are you worrying about if/when he will be in touch?  You have to kind of release attaching to the outcome of this.  Take him at his word: friends.  You're not really looking for friends anyway, are you? Maybe in the long run but in the near future, no. And so far,, you're not even sure if he would be a good friend or if there is time and space in your life for it--what if you meet someone else soon or 10 people to date in the near future. You don't have time to worry about him. Make your life about YOU. He released you back into the dating pond so don't worry about him.  There's no good answer coming out of him for a while..a while. And you need to proceed like it might never come. I know it just happened so I don't mean it harshly but try to work your way around to thinking like this--like a few days. No more than a week! You didn't know him a few weeks ago, you only went on one date with him and if you were to meet the love of your life next month and proceed with a great relationship, I could probably ask you who is the guy from this thread in 6 months or so and you'd be like , who? Lol, cultivate that.

Edited December 31, 2021 by Versacehottie