Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 We will have kids though. She wants kids in the future and so do I. Isn't she in her 40's ..? Good luck.. Kids are almost out for her
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 Isn't she in her 40's ..? Good luck.. Kids are almost out for her She is 41 so she has a few years.
loony Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Isn't she in her 40's ..? Good luck.. Kids are almost out for her Not true. And as my gyno said, if they can get a 60 year old pregnant I shouldn't worry about my biological clock now.
JS17 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Not true. And as my gyno said, if they can get a 60 year old pregnant I shouldn't worry about my biological clock now. That's funny cause everyone under the sun has been pressuring me to find that great magical guy, get married, and have wonderful children before it's too late and they think too late is right around the corner. You know what I say to them
Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Not true. And as my gyno said, if they can get a 60 year old pregnant I shouldn't worry about my biological clock now. Oh loony.. Don't debate this one with me.. Yes it is true that all you need is a uterus.. I've been thru invitro 3 times and artificial insemination 4 times..Including egg donation... Cost me well over 100,000.00 with my ex wife.. and no success.. I lived in the infertility clinic.. Although each case is different your gyno was basically saying that you have time yet..
Hot Coco Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Would you not be more flattered to attract the love of a man who actually liked women? I'm always comparing love/sex to food - make of that what you will - but I see men who use women for sex as junk food addicts. Men who genuinely like women are more akin to gourmets. Tasteful, and appreciative of the finer things in life. I don't agree with you though that just because he was only interested in one thing at the beginning, that it meant that he doesn't like women. That's where we disagree. I don't think your analogy with the food was a valid one. Ok, I'll go with your analogy for a minute. Say Woogle loves food (women) but just feels like having fast food for awhile instead of gourmet food. But then he eats at a fast food place that accidentally served him a gourmet meal and he LOVED it. Even though he went in there for fast food and didn't want anything to do with gourmet, he appreciated it. To me, that's the biggest compliment. That you got something different than what you thought you wanted and ended liking that BETTER. I really can't think of a higher compliment. Woggle, if she's as honest as you say she is and you're both really open with each other...tell her. You can preface it by saying "I'm not sure how you'll take this but believe it's a compliment" and then tell her. I'll bet she'll appreciate it.
Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 She is 41 so she has a few years. Not without help my friend.. you are going to need some of your millions to get kids with her
loony Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Oh loony.. Don't debate this one with me.. Yes it is true that all you need is a uterus.. I've been thru invitro 3 times and artificial insemination 4 times..Including egg donation... Cost me well over 100,000.00 with my ex wife.. and no success.. I lived in the infertility clinic.. Although each case is different your gyno was basically saying that you have time yet.. Without wanting to be nasty, but often when it doesn't work out, it's not the woman's fault, but the man's. The quality of the sperm does reduces with age, but as Woggle is not that old it shouldn't be such a problem.
Outcast Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 She wants kids in the future and so do I. I agree that she's pushing it. By the late 30s, the eggs women are born with start to deteriorate which is why there are many more miscarriages and birth defects in older women. And if you do manage to have kids, she'll be smack in the middle of menopause when the kids are just hitting puberty! Good times, good times. Loony, sorry but you're not correct here; read up on female fertility. Women are born with all their eggs so her eggs are now 41 years old. Men make new sperm all the time. Seems like a badly-engineered system but there you have it.
Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Without wanting to be nasty, but often when it doesn't work out, it's not the woman's fault, but the man's. The quality of the sperm does reduces with age, but as Woggle is not that old it shouldn't be such a problem. I had record breaking sperm.. That is why we had to do egg donation.. at 10,000 a pop.. the issue was her..
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 My aunt got pregnant for the first time at 47 with no help so it does happen. If we need some help we will get it.
JS17 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 My aunt got pregnant for the first time at 47 with no help so it does happen. If we need some help we will get it. Good Woggle. We're all happy for you. What were you expecting when you posted this?
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 Good Woggle. We're all happy for you. What were you expecting when you posted this? Why are you so nasty to me? I was merely using my aunt as an example that women can get pregnant at an older age with no help.
Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 My aunt got pregnant for the first time at 47 with no help so it does happen. If we need some help we will get it. Normally when a couple is going thru infertility treatments or invitro nobody knows..They will tell everyone when asked that " No we did it on our own " That goes into the family secrets section Nobody wants to admit that have had to use a service.. Your aunt also is not your GF .. Different plumbling
lindya Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 I don't agree with you though that just because he was only interested in one thing at the beginning, that it meant that he doesn't like women. That's where we disagree. Then you'd probably need to look back through Woggle's posts to get a better idea of what his general view of women is. I'm not interested in men who think women are the root of all evil. I don't have the patience to deal with their issues, and in the highly unlikely event that such an individual regarded me as a soulmate, I'd view it as a personal failure.
JS17 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Why are you so nasty to me? I was merely using my aunt as an example that women can get pregnant at an older age with no help. No I meant when you posted your thread question. You've been BASHING since the day you started posting on this board. Now you expect us all to be happy and supportive of you since you believe you're in love? Many people here tried to help you in the past and you were nasty to everyone then. We reap what we sow Woggle. Maybe this will be a lesson to you and to others not to take advantage of giving people.
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 No I meant when you posted your thread question. You've been BASHING since the day you started posting on this board. Now you expect us all to be happy and supportive of you since you believe you're in love? Many people here tried to help you in the past and you were nasty to everyone then. We reap what we sow Woggle. Maybe this will be a lesson to you and to others not to take advantage of giving people. Who have I been nasty to personally? Name one instance. From day one I have gone out of my way to say that I am not talking about all women. Sorry if you ake it personally. I don't know where I have ever been nasty to YOU.
Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Woogel.. you may never have pointed out a individual But by making blanket statements like all women are biotchs or some shiot that you write..you are making a personal attack at any woman that reads your post.. Therefore you do attack people.. All the time.. and are nasty towards them Only recently have you started to change because you are in love
scratch Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Who have I been nasty to personally? Name one instance. From day one I have gone out of my way to say that I am not talking about all women. Sorry if you ake it personally. I don't know where I have ever been nasty to YOU. Dude, perhaps it would not be the best option to continue to reason with someone who told you: I hope you two spawn evil babies. Either ignore her or fight with her, but complaining that she's being mean seems rather pointless. Back on topic, do you think your relationship is strong enough at this point to withstand the truth about your initial intent? If so, tell her. If not, and you think she's not going to find out otherwise, don't.
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 Woogel.. you may never have pointed out a individual But by making blanket statements like all women are biotchs or some shiot that you write..you are making a personal attack at any woman that reads your post.. Therefore you do attack people.. All the time.. and are nasty towards them Only recently have you started to change because you are in love I have always said that if my posts did not fit a woman she should not be offended because am not talking about her. I said that from day one so I don't see why she should be offended. Just to clear it up though I apologize to any woman that I hurt with my generalizations.
Art_Critic Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 I have always said that if my posts did not fit a woman she should not be offended because am not talking about her. I said that from day one so I don't see why she should be offended. Just to clear it up though I apologize to any woman that I hurt with my generalizations. You are arguing semantics here.. You think just because you leave the door open that if they are not like that then they are okay is BS.. That is a left handed offense Kinda pu$$y footing if you ask me.. Show a backbone and stick up for your own words.... They were okay when you would say them earlier..
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 You are arguing semantics here.. You think just because you leave the door open that if they are not like that then they are okay is BS.. That is a left handed offense Kinda pu$$y footing if you ask me.. Show a backbone and stick up for your own words.... They were okay when you would say them earlier.. I don't take back what I said but if unwittingly offended a woman that did not deserve it I apolgize for it. I meant every word I said though. I am sorry but too many women these days are exactly like I describe. The ones who are not I have no problem with.
JS17 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 Who have I been nasty to personally? Name one instance. From day one I have gone out of my way to say that I am not talking about all women. Sorry if you ake it personally. I don't know where I have ever been nasty to YOU. I can't find any of the PMs or posts but I do recall feeling bad for you when I found out about your battles growing up. I recall trying to help you then and even congratulating you when you got involved with your girlfriend. I also recall getting s*** back from you. If this is not what you recall then so be it. I will not argue with you on it. It's not even about your lack of empathy, as A_C was talking about....and I believe people were trying to help you out with a few days ago but apparently it feel on deaf ears. Its about the fact that you berate people and then when you're feeling ok you expect them to be nice to you. There comes a point when you just can't be nice anymore.
Outcast Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 When you finally allow for the fact that your own jaundiced view may be coloring your impressions of the nature of women, then you will perhaps have earned the credit you seek for your new 'enlightenment'. I don't trust anyone who believes heartily in generalizations; it belies a less-than-advanced cognitive capacity (which also belies claims of 'genius', BTW). One might wish to condemn all of one group of people for the sins of a couple, but the truly rational, logical, intelligent person will understand that that sort of reaction is unfair and illogical and not allow it to govern his outlook.
Author Woggle Posted October 20, 2005 Author Posted October 20, 2005 I can't find any of the PMs or posts but I do recall feeling bad for you when I found out about your battles growing up. I recall trying to help you then and even congratulating you when you got involved with your girlfriend. I also recall getting s*** back from you. If this is not what you recall then so be it. I will not argue with you on it. It's not even about your lack of empathy, as A_C was talking about....and I believe people were trying to help you out with a few days ago but apparently it feel on deaf ears. Its about the fact that you berate people and then when you're feeling ok you expect them to be nice to you. There comes a point when you just can't be nice anymore. When have I ever been nasty to you? Honestly if I was I apologize and I mean that sincerely. I can't remember anything.
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