Never Had a Girlfriend, Ugly.

[Weezy1973]

10 hours ago, SpoonySpoon said:

 

I can't really answer that one. To say that a person must have been at least one 'notch' above me and that's why said no is bizarrely finickity way to talk about. If we go with this board's assumption that there's nothing wrong with me physically and say I'm a 5, then there's no reason for half of the population to say yes, but they're not. So we go with my assumption that there's definitely something wrong with me, and it's closer to a 2 or 3, but then even then there must be some 2s and 3s knocking about that would see me as not bad, right?

Not bad, but not good either. There would need to be some sort of connection with them that would draw them in. They wouldn’t be interested based on looks alone. 

Needless to say, if you’re considered “undateable” based on your looks, no woman is going to flirt with you or make it obvious in any way that she’s interested. Your only hope really is to try women who are also considered “undateable”. But you’ll still need to do the heavy lifting in the early stages. Asking them out, facing rejection etc.
 

 

 

[introverted1]

At this point, you have ruled out all possibilities:  You are not objectively ugly, nor are you off-putting/defensive/depressed/desperate in person, you have a good job, have a good physique, dance/box/other skills, have good hygiene/grooming, and are generally a smart, nice, caring person.

So that leaves 2 possibilities:

1. Everyone you meet is visually or otherwise impaired and cannot recognize your good qualities.

~or~

2. You are unable to accurately self-assess and you have it wildly wrong on at least one of the possibilities you have ruled out.

So...  what are YOU going to do to get the help you need to untangle this mystery?  It's pretty clear that posting on an internet forum is not a solution.

[Ami1uwant]

11 hours ago, SpoonySpoon said:

Ask as many times as you like, if you literally ignore the answers that I give there's nothing else I can say.

I may offer a secure dependable marriage opportunity, but if nobody is willing to give me a chance there's not a lot I can do about that. If I'd had relationships since 16 like any normal person I probably would be looking for marriage material by now, that's just the way things have fallen. Yes, let's put the pressure on myself that the very first person who says yes to me must be the one I marry. That's just insane.

What exactly do you want, a transcript of every conversation I've had?

I just treat women like human beings and talk to them normally. Through dancing, through meetup groups, at parties, through friends of friends, I've listed all the various ways.

I can't really answer that one. To say that a person must have been at least one 'notch' above me and that's why said no is bizarrely finickity way to talk about. If we go with this board's assumption that there's nothing wrong with me physically and say I'm a 5, then there's no reason for half of the population to say yes, but they're not. So we go with my assumption that there's definitely something wrong with me, and it's closer to a 2 or 3, but then even then there must be some 2s and 3s knocking about that would see me as not bad, right?

As I'm mentioning in seemingly every post now; that's exactly what I have been doing. Sure, Covid has made it difficult for a time, but still what I'm doing.

Once again for the people in the back: I do not particularly see myself as ugly, it is other people that see me as such.

im trying to help you as is @basil67

 

talking to them involves what exactly.

 

do you think you are nice when  you actually are being co descending.  You might say things to show you care but are they warning signs of being controlling ir stalker.

are you only talking g in groups where what you are saying aren’t directed at them.

 

if I was in a situation like yours where I saw a regular group of women that ud have conversations with I’d likely get closer to some in conversation and it might lead to dating.

 

im trying to figure out what you are doing wrong or not doing at all.