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45 minutes ago, smackie9 said:

Well......as they say, if it quacks like a duck.....

If you are all that and have NP getting chicks, why are you acting so beta....snap out of it.

thats true. I;ve just had a stroke of bad luck i think lately and maybe its f***ng with my confidence

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6 hours ago, Interstellar said:

 she’s a beautiful woman, you know what they say about beautiful women? they’re the most dangerous creature on the face of the planet. be careful when you’re gonna get get involve with one of them. it’s good that you just don’t fall in love right away, you’re supposed to go real slow and protect your heart especially if you’re dealing with a beautiful woman. but it looks like you’ve lost your cool with this gal man. you’re supposed to be the court jester, making her laugH all the time and she’s supposed to be chasing you. but  it’s correct that you should be listening to your gut, because  the mind lies, and the heart lies but your gut never lies. what i would do? i’d disappear and go on witness protection program for three weeks and wait for her to contact me. that means i’d disappear from social media too but for your sake you’d be much better off dating other women and drop her. Forever. 

lollllll. that gave me a laugh. ya so weve been talking. i cleared my head. I've been isolated as f*** being a digital nomad and I think the loneliness and isolation coupled with it all made me really irritable last couple days. fact of the matter is, shes single, and i never get like this. you're right, im supposed to be playing it cool and i always do but ya.. I lost my cool, and i ended up sincerely apologizing because she hasn't made any sort of commitment to me at all, I literally just arrived the other day and shes on a family vacation. she doesnt owe me anything and I think it was my bad calling her out. ya i have a gut feeling, but it doesnt matter cause we are just in the talking phase and haven't even met up on a date yet. IDK how I let myself lose my cool like this. like I said Ive noticed the last week of being compltely isolated ive been feeling sort of crazy and irritable all day. I just never have any human interaction sans ordering food at a restaurant. the beauty of being a nomad. constantly alone....

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3 hours ago, jerrygordon3 said:

 I just never have any human interaction sans ordering food at a restaurant. the beauty of being a nomad. constantly alone....

That's ok. If you don't like roots, reach out to other nomads. Perhaps this movie could inspire you to cope with the ups and downs of your lifestyle:

"Nomadland is a 2020 American drama film based on the 2017 nonfiction book Nomadland: Surviving America in the Twenty-First Century by Jessica Bruder. The film is written, produced, directed, and edited by Chloé Zhao, and stars Frances McDormand as a vandwelling working nomad who leaves her hometown after her husband dies and the sole industry closes down, to be "houseless" and travel around the United States. A number of real-life nomads appear as fictionalized versions of themselves, including Linda May, Swankie, and Bob Wells.

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5 hours ago, jerrygordon3 said:

lollllll. that gave me a laugh. ya so weve been talking. i cleared my head. I've been isolated as f*** being a digital nomad and I think the loneliness and isolation coupled with it all made me really irritable last couple days. fact of the matter is, shes single, and i never get like this. you're right, im supposed to be playing it cool and i always do but ya.. I lost my cool, and i ended up sincerely apologizing because she hasn't made any sort of commitment to me at all, I literally just arrived the other day and shes on a family vacation. she doesnt owe me anything and I think it was my bad calling her out. ya i have a gut feeling, but it doesnt matter cause we are just in the talking phase and haven't even met up on a date yet. IDK how I let myself lose my cool like this. like I said Ive noticed the last week of being compltely isolated ive been feeling sort of crazy and irritable all day. I just never have any human interaction sans ordering food at a restaurant. the beauty of being a nomad. constantly alone....

well it’s good you apologize, forget the disappearing act i suggested or dropping her.  you can always have it both ways you know. she’s your part time makeout partner and you still get to date other women. 

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12 hours ago, jerrygordon3 said:

i told her she doesnt owe me anything, but if she is involved with someone else, and we've been talking for 4 or 5 months, and im investing my time and money to come out for her.... and she asked me to, and we are talking everyday and doing video chats, then I want to know her heart is in the right place. and it doesnt seem like it is when once in awhile she just goes missing for an entire day. maybe shes just acting 20. but im trusting my gut, and if im investing my time and money in travel, deserve to know we are on the same page so your comment sort of totally misses the mark

Are you sure she is even in the town you are in?  She could be anywhere.  That's the problem with dating online and only video chatting.  If she hasn't made any effort to meet you yet, then you can assume she's not interested.  If she was interested, you would have met by now.

If she's one of these women who posts endless selfies of herself posing somewhere exotic, then that's probably all she does in life.  She just seeking attention and probably from lots of men.  Don't waste any time on someone who can't be bothered to meet.

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1) You haven't meet yet, so expecting anything from her is weird.

2) She is on vacation, so she has fun and may not have time to talk.

3) Saying that she sleeps for money is very offending and rude.

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Whatever she is, you don’t seem to know each other very well so let it be.

None of this was ever very realistic and the chances of anything happening are low. The age gap could be intimidating to 20 year old and you also come across as intense and demanding. I know you’re upset because the communication was inconsistent but you’re going to push people away jumping to too many conclusions this early. 

If you like her that much then respect her. Let her come to you, don’t bother her on vacation and don’t assume she’s a sugar anything. If she does end up truly not interested in you, you’ll know you were a gentleman anyway. Move on then and brush yourself off. 
 

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11 hours ago, Wiseman2 said:

That's ok. If you don't like roots, reach out to other nomads. Perhaps this movie could inspire you to cope with the ups and downs of your lifestyle:

"Nomadland is a 2020 American drama film based on the 2017 nonfiction book Nomadland: Surviving America in the Twenty-First Century by Jessica Bruder. The film is written, produced, directed, and edited by Chloé Zhao, and stars Frances McDormand as a vandwelling working nomad who leaves her hometown after her husband dies and the sole industry closes down, to be "houseless" and travel around the United States. A number of real-life nomads appear as fictionalized versions of themselves, including Linda May, Swankie, and Bob Wells.

im going to check that out man thank you, ya I'm living my dream life but there are periods of time where you're completely isolated for sometimes a month or more.

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8 hours ago, Interstellar said:

well it’s good you apologize, forget the disappearing act i suggested or dropping her.  you can always have it both ways you know. she’s your part time makeout partner and you still get to date other women. 

exactly, the women there are beautiful and love americans and I've never had any issue so im just gonna keep my options open. I seriously feel like I was PMSing the other day fml. 

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7 hours ago, spiderowl said:

Are you sure she is even in the town you are in?  She could be anywhere.  That's the problem with dating online and only video chatting.  If she hasn't made any effort to meet you yet, then you can assume she's not interested.  If she was interested, you would have met by now.

If she's one of these women who posts endless selfies of herself posing somewhere exotic, then that's probably all she does in life.  She just seeking attention and probably from lots of men.  Don't waste any time on someone who can't be bothered to meet.

well, i landed a couple days before she left on a trip for 3 weeks and I was in another city visiting a friend. so we will see if she meets me when she returns. I've a good nose for these things and if shes a fake or not serious Ill be able to tell. I just need to remain cool from here on out cause I let myself get way too invested and got in my head which never happens. I have a policy when I date, if i become a worse version of myself because im feeling anxious or wondering if they're sincere, I end my emotional involvement because a toxic situation is a toxic situation. regardless of if the person is overtly toxic. just the dynamic can be. 

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3 hours ago, Amanda92 said:

1) You haven't meet yet, so expecting anything from her is weird.

2) She is on vacation, so she has fun and may not have time to talk.

3) Saying that she sleeps for money is very offending and rude.

theres a lot of sugar babies in Ukraine and I've had women who've tried to run sugar baby game on me and I just lol and block them. I date tens without having to pay for it. 

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2 hours ago, glows said:

Whatever she is, you don’t seem to know each other very well so let it be.

None of this was ever very realistic and the chances of anything happening are low. The age gap could be intimidating to 20 year old and you also come across as intense and demanding. I know you’re upset because the communication was inconsistent but you’re going to push people away jumping to too many conclusions this early. 

If you like her that much then respect her. Let her come to you, don’t bother her on vacation and don’t assume she’s a sugar anything. If she does end up truly not interested in you, you’ll know you were a gentleman anyway. Move on then and brush yourself off. 
 

very well said, act right and have a clear conscience when the dust settles. In my experience I get a lot of attention from young girls, 18-21. However they seldom have follow through and I dont like sleeping w randoms anymore so theyre either goal oriented or im out. she said her ex was 30 when she was 17 sooooo. She just keep reaffirming that I'm her type and that shes serious about a relationship. but shes 20.... doesnt matter how serious a 20 year old thinks they are lets be honest nobody knows up from down before theyre 25, maybe even older. and thats just science. our adult mind only develops around 24 25. so technically im playing with a loaded gun expecting her to be up for the challenge of being what I want. One can only hope. shes nice and is the most stunning woman I've ever seen. So, here I am, circling the flame.

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2 hours ago, S2B said:

If I were you I’d start going on dates with other gals also… in the new area you are in now.

focusing so much on someone who you haven’t met yet isn’t good balance.

exactly my friend I got way wrapped up this last week and again I think it's because i've been so isolated. I noticed all last week I was getting really irritable and fussy. People always say I see the bright side of things, never let a bad sitch get me down, always happy, always positive. I've literally been an angry a**h*** the last week and I just overreacted on the poor girl but we talked and she talked to me about it we met in the middle and I explained why I owed her an apology and told her i'd just been having sort of a weird week. She asked why and I said honestly as a guy I never talk about my feelings and show weakness cause I self assured. but im ashamed to say I've been isolating a lot in this little town and it's just started to make me feel not myself. A little crazy just sitting in my studio all day long staring at a wall with nobody to talk to for the last month. and then told her I just had a couple bad days where it really caught up with me so I went out and forced myself to make some friends and now I feel much better. 

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I think you would be wise to not pin so many hopes on a stranger before having met them. 

Meeting her doesn't mean you will have a relatonship with her. You two might hit it off, or you might not. One of you might not feel the chemistry. You might not get along. You cannot take a stranger seriously when they're banging on about you being exactly their "type" when you have spent no time together in person. This is just talk. You have no way of knowing if your each other's type before you have actually started dating and getting to know each in real life. 

At this point, it seems to be mostly about looks. You describe her as stunning, but what about everything else? Her goals, her values, her interests, her job or studies ? You've said almost nothing about anything beyond her appearance. 

Remember that unless and until you meet in person and spend actual quality time together, this is just a chat buddy. And if she is an attractive woman who seeks attention online, you can be sure you're not the only guy who is messaging her and talking to her. 

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6 hours ago, jerrygordon3 said:

very well said, act right and have a clear conscience when the dust settles. In my experience I get a lot of attention from young girls, 18-21. However they seldom have follow through and I dont like sleeping w randoms anymore so theyre either goal oriented or im out. she said her ex was 30 when she was 17 sooooo. She just keep reaffirming that I'm her type and that shes serious about a relationship. but shes 20.... doesnt matter how serious a 20 year old thinks they are lets be honest nobody knows up from down before theyre 25, maybe even older. and thats just science. our adult mind only develops around 24 25. so technically im playing with a loaded gun expecting her to be up for the challenge of being what I want. One can only hope. shes nice and is the most stunning woman I've ever seen. So, here I am, circling the flame.

Her version of “serious” is very different from yours.

Give yourself more time to get settled in your new place and meet other women who are more similar to you.

You both talked and met in the middle but did you ask her out on a date? And what did she say? 


 

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Ask her out on a date as soon as she gets back from her vacation, and go from there. In the meantime, meet others. 

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Shes 20 and you're 30 and you expect her to not be flaky? There in lies your issue.

Sounds like shes a yachter. I would hard pass.

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On 7/11/2021 at 2:39 AM, jerrygordon3 said:

theres a lot of sugar babies in Ukraine and I've had women who've tried to run sugar baby game on me and I just lol and block them. I date tens without having to pay for it. 

It doesn't mean she is a prostitute. And if you used to like girls with no moral values... well maybe start choosing wise. Normal people don't pay for dating.

 

You must have low self-esteem if you choose young girls because they make you feel better.

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If you have never met her you are not dating.

You are pen pals, and pen pals are not the top of anyone's list while on vacation.  

It seems your expectations are way out of wack for the current nature of your relationship.  She may be as you suspect or maybe the expensive stuff you see are knock offs, just good thrifting, or she comes from money, or just part of some curated photo.  Or she may be a sugar baby and you are the guy she likes for you...whole realm of possibilities which are pretty pointless wheel spinning in my view at this point in your relationship.

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