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Starswillshine
13 minutes ago, Myabee said:

Really? Because he is truly adamant they have no sex.... zero intercourse for over 10 years. 

Do you truly believe he has not had sex for 10 years? Really? 

He just stayed married for 10 years without sex... and they do not even have kids? 

I have some ocean front property in Montana for sell if you would like. 

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spiritedaway2003
13 minutes ago, Starswillshine said:

Do you truly believe he has not had sex for 10 years? Really? 

He just stayed married for 10 years without sex... and they do not even have kids? 

I have some ocean front property in Montana for sell if you would like. 

This logic is flawed.  Why would this be such a difficult thing to believe?  It may not be your reality with your ex (since he sounds like a cake-eater) but there’s a reason why the terms “sexless marriages” or “dead bedrooms” exist out there.  Just because it wasn’t what happened with you and your ex doesn’t mean it isn’t the reality for someone else. People “leave” relationships for all sorts of reasons, just as people “stay” in relationships for all sorts of reasons. 

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Starswillshine
2 minutes ago, spiritedaway2003 said:

This logic is flawed.  Why would this be such a difficult thing to believe?  It may not be your reality with your ex (since he sounds like a cake-eater) but there’s a reason why the terms “sexless marriages” or “dead bedrooms” exist out there.  Just because it wasn’t what happened with you and your ex doesn’t mean it can’t be a reality for someone else. People leave relationships for all sorts of reasons, just as people stay in relationships for all sorts of reasons. 

Do you really believe a man has gone 10 years without sex... and stayed in the marriage... and has NO DESIRE to leave the marriage.... and does not have kids. 

 

The probability of this being truth is less than 1%

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11 minutes ago, Starswillshine said:

Do you really believe a man has gone 10 years without sex... and stayed in the marriage... and has NO DESIRE to leave the marriage.... and does not have kids. 

 

The probability of this being truth is less than 1%

I do believe him. She hates it. I will ask him again though

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11 minutes ago, spiritedaway2003 said:

This logic is flawed.  Why would this be such a difficult thing to believe?  It may not be your reality with your ex (since he sounds like a cake-eater) but there’s a reason why the terms “sexless marriages” or “dead bedrooms” exist out there.  Just because it wasn’t what happened with you and your ex doesn’t mean it isn’t the reality for someone else. People “leave” relationships for all sorts of reasons, just as people “stay” in relationships for all sorts of reasons. 

Thank u! 

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3 minutes ago, Myabee said:

I do believe him. She hates it 

Do so at your own peril. 

Something happens that shows you who he is... and you run here, "I'm done weak man."

Then you get lonely, reach out, and he sweetens the deal, and you are back in. 

Tale as old as time. Do so at your own peril. We are and will be here. 

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15 minutes ago, Myabee said:

I do believe him. She hates it. I will ask him again though

Maybe true, maybe not, but you only have his word for it. And it’s a bit self serving on his part: if you knew he had an active sex life with his wife, would you be eager to sext with him?

And it sets up a competition: SHE is not a sexual person, I am, of course he wants me more. And you have no way of verifying.

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1 hour ago, Myabee said:

Really? Because he is truly adamant they have no sex.... zero intercourse for over 10 years. 

If that’s really true, why has he not filed for divorce?

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39 minutes ago, Starswillshine said:

Do you really believe a man has gone 10 years without sex... and stayed in the marriage... and has NO DESIRE to leave the marriage.... and does not have kids. 

 

The probability of this being truth is less than 1%.   

Hmm. I missed that this MM does not have any kids.  In the case of the MM not having kids and wanting to stay in a marriage that he “supposedly” is miserable in, I will concede that it less likely that he is being truthful to OP.  What is the reason then?  And what is his action now?

There is something he is still getting out of that relationship (and I don’t mean just sex) for him to stay in the marriage. My guess is that he is probably not as unhappy or miserable in his marriage as he makes it sound to the OP
 

edit: my point earlier is simply that it’s not out of the realm of reality for a man (or a woman) to be or stay in a sexless marriage, for whatever reasons.

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17 minutes ago, Starswillshine said:

Something happens that shows you who he is... and you run here, "I'm done weak man."

Then you get lonely, reach out, and he sweetens the deal, and you are back in. 

Very true.

1 hour ago, Myabee said:

Anyway... not sure I really want him anymore anyway.🤢

We’ve heard this before - on more than one occasion…

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8 hours ago, Myabee said:

Wait No. My son has nothing to do with MM he is not around when I'm chatting with him. His father is very present in his life and there for him always.We have been co parenting well. I have a therapist who I work well with and I'm always on top of my physical health. One small  pandemic roll at my age is nothing. However... I do need to stop chit chatting with this MM. I saw aside of him on facetime yesterday that I did not like. It was over some sexual game he wanted to play. I was having trouble with my phone camera and said this is not working. He seemed to get mad. I was so turned off by that. 

I can understand that Myabee.  I guess you are involved with him but I would find him wanting to play a sexual game over a phone very disturbing.  Is that all he sees you as?

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35 minutes ago, spiderowl said:

I can understand that Myabee.  I guess you are involved with him but I would find him wanting to play a sexual game over a phone very disturbing.  Is that all he sees you as?

No. He sees me as his best friend, soulmate and sees a future after he calls it over and done with her. So he says!!🙄

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1 hour ago, spiritedaway2003 said:

Hmm. I missed that this MM does not have any kids.  In the case of the MM not having kids and wanting to stay in a marriage that he “supposedly” is miserable in, I will concede that it less likely that he is being truthful to OP.  What is the reason then?  And what is his action now?

There is something he is still getting out of that relationship (and I don’t mean just sex) for him to stay in the marriage. My guess is that he is probably not as unhappy or miserable in his marriage as he makes it sound to the OP
 

edit: my point earlier is simply that it’s not out of the realm of reality for a man (or a woman) to be or stay in a sexless marriage, for whatever reasons.

Yes. She provides familiar, pays the bills and they are good roommates.That is why he has stayed.

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1 hour ago, BaileyB said:

Very true.

We’ve heard this before - on more than one occasion…

Well duh! Like any of this is easy? So many threads on here much flip flopping back and forth takes place. 

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18 minutes ago, Myabee said:

No. He sees me as his best friend, soulmate and sees a future after he calls it over and done with her. So he says!!🙄

And we are just warning you these are just words "he says." Turn down the volume and watch what he does.  This is classic MM playbook stuff to continue affairs. This IS what people in affairs do to ensure the affair continues. If he said he was never leaving, you'd be done so he has now promised forever so the affair continues. Plain as day to me 

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3 minutes ago, Daisydooks said:

And we are just warning you these are just words "he says." Turn down the volume and watch what he does.  This is classic MM playbook stuff to continue affairs. This IS what people in affairs do to ensure the affair continues. If he said he was never leaving, you'd be done so he has now promised forever so the affair continues. Plain as day to me 

Daisy I see that

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13 minutes ago, S2B said:

He hasn’t flip flopped. He’s exactly where he intends to be.

tell him to show you his finalized divorce papers. That’s the only time you should pay attention to him - when he’s actually single and available!

No actually he came on full speed ahead from where he was at.  

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21 minutes ago, S2B said:

He did not! He still lives with his wife! He hasn’t filed for divorce.

that’s just a player. You’re falling for his tricks.

 

It's so messed up now I asked him what if you were lying with no cloths on the bed and you know ready to go with Wife? His reply she would give me a dirty look and throw a sheet over me. Is that a player trick? 

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2 minutes ago, S2B said:

Sure. He’s trying to make you believe they don’t do anything sexually. Manipulation that you’re not seeing.

and why are you playing those games with him? Simply tell him when his divorce is final to contact you.

asking those silly scenario questions is just trickery for both of you. You know he’s not honest!

You feed his ego. Stop providing him his dose of ego feeds.

The only sure way to know would be to ask her. Lol. I'm kidding. Idk... i think its real possible she does not like sex shes 56

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3 minutes ago, Myabee said:

i think its real possible she does not like sex shes 56

Wait, you are 50. Do you expect to be uninterested in sex in 6 years??

He knows full well you will never ask her so he can say whatever he wants. The interesting thing is you take it at face value.

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50 minutes ago, RebeccaR said:

Wait, you are 50. Do you expect to be uninterested in sex in 6 years??

He knows full well you will never ask her so he can say whatever he wants. The interesting thing is you take it at face value.

What am I supposed to do? Believe that every word is a lie? Every single thing?  

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57 minutes ago, S2B said:

I’m 60 and I love sex. Don’t be naive.

ask her!!! You need some truth about this triangle. It’s NEVER gonna be from him!

😂 I don't think asking her is really a good idea. Although I would love to know. 

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3 minutes ago, Myabee said:

What am I supposed to do? Believe that every word is a lie? Every single thing?  

Yes. He is a liar. Why would you ever trust anything coming out of his mouth. He is 100% a liar, a cheater, and a manipulator. 

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19 minutes ago, Starswillshine said:

Yes. He is a liar. Why would you ever trust anything coming out of his mouth. He is 100% a liar, a cheater, and a manipulator. 

I'm not convinced everything is a lie.😦

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