Was my girlfriend picking a fight?

[elaine567]

Why are you even still with this woman?
You are totally incompatible.

[Warmer]

I don't know because I love her but it seems like she doesn't care right now if we break up I don't think she loves me she just wanted to be loved by me but she doesn't respect me. All I want is an apology and for her to say she shouldn't of done it not for her to put the problem onto me like it's my own fault I let it hurt me. I'm so angry and feel so sad and I feel like she doesn't give a damn about me.

She would rather say "get over it or break up" and "if you're so unhappy I just focused on my own life instead" 

She must be talking to some other guy and doesn't really care or try to make things right. 

 

Wow I just saw her leave a comment to someone online saying 

 

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Otherwise, I'm fine!  Got over stress / burnout or whatever it was, yaaaay finally, and having a good time in beautiful Nerja.  A Dutch friend has also moved here and started a restaurant around the corner.  And have 10 !!!  - 10 !!!  Getting to know people (they all live in or near Marbella, but that can be done in terms of distance) with whom I occasionally go out for dinner. 

After ALL that crap she gave me about how socializing is unnattractive etc and how she is an introvert which made her more special now she is socializing. I feel horrible because of our rs and she is saying she is having a good time! 

Edited May 29, 2021 by Warmer

[kendahke]

This isn't going to end well.

[Warmer]

I know mate

[Warmer]

3 hours ago, spiderowl said:

Whatever is happening, this girl is not treating you well.  She barely apologised.

Honestly, is there any reason to continue seeing her?

It's more the fact she hasn't acknowledged she treated me bad. I have two options end it or swallow my pride and move on but if I do that she will know in future she can disrespect me without even acknowledging it and I will accept it. 

If she would acknowledge my feelings instead of belittling them by saying I shouldn't be this bothered by the way she treated me I could continue but she's making it hard. I think she wants me to be the one to break up, she told me she lost touch of her feelings and I believe she has eyes on someone else as usually she makes an effort to try and fix things. Now she's just fighting me and expects me to be the one to apologise like she's bored of it now.

Edited May 29, 2021 by Warmer

[Acacia98]

On 5/27/2021 at 2:04 AM, Warmer said:

Hi basil67 yeah it's the same girl and I'm not putting up with this anymore until she apologizes. 

You should rewrite this to say, "I'm not putting up with this anymore, even if she apologizes."

She doesn't respect you. And she sure as heck doesn't love you either. This is not about insecurities. It's about contempt. She has a low opinion of you and she wants you to know it. When she picks fights with you, her goal is to fight with you. It's that simple.

You say you're still with her and you're giving her a chance because you love her. But that's not how love works. Loving someone doesn't require you to stand there and smile when they slap you or punch you in the face (figuratively speaking). It's actually self-hate and low self-esteem that would have you do that.

More than anything, you need to learn to love yourself. When you love yourself, you walk away when someone crosses the line and treats you disrespectfully and contemptuously.

When you love someone else, you want them to be the best person they can be. So you don't enable their worst behavior. You set boundaries and you make sure that, if they cross those boundaries, they face consequences. As far as I'm concerned, in this case, the only appropriate consequence for her actions is dumping her then blocking her everywhere.

Edited May 29, 2021 by Acacia98

[Warmer]

 

3 hours ago, kendahke said:

That is not an apology. That is her spitting on your esteem because that is where her energy is with you. There's a word for that: contempt.

She made a whole a$$ drama out of nothing. Seriously, this should have been a :30 texting fling--she should have been dismissed when she said:

She was doing a whole lot of projection onto you and it was coming from a really dark place on her end--she really needs to examine why another couple's happiness cannot be allowed to be inspirational to you solely because she hasn't done the work to even understand what a gift that is. If it's "their brand" to be exceedingly happy, etc., in public--better that than a dour, jealous person who's begrudging anyone else of having or wanting happiness in their lives.

I don't think it's even that she is jealous she just used it as an excuse to pick a fight with me maybe to lead to this so I breakup and she can be guilt free. She likes to act like a happy couple when it's her own relationship, she just wanted to make me feel stupid and pick a fight. 

28 minutes ago, Acacia98 said:

You should rewrite this to say, "I'm not putting up with this anymore, even if she apologizes."

She doesn't respect you. And she sure as heck doesn't love you either. This is not about insecurities. It's about contempt. She has a low opinion of you and she wants you to know it. When she picks fights with you, her goal is to fight with you. It's that simple.

You say you're still with her and you're giving her a chance because you love her. But that's not how love works. Loving someone doesn't require you to stand there and smile when they slap you or punch you in the face (figuratively speaking). It's actually self-hate and low self-esteem that would have you do that.

More than anything, you need to learn to love yourself. When you love yourself, you walk away when someone crosses the line and treats you disrespectfully and contemptuously.

When you love someone else, you want them to be the best person they can be. So you don't enable their worst behavior. You set boundaries and you make sure that, if they cross those boundaries, they face consequences. As far as I'm concerned, in this case, the only appropriate consequence for her actions is dumping her then blocking her everywhere.

I asked her to treat me better she said

"I cant, it will always happen, I will always at some point say a thing in either a wrong way, or on a jealous cloud or whatever especially in ld" 

So in other words she will always disrespect me. Yes I feel like she has a low opinion of me the way she talks down to me. 

Yeah definitely has contempt for me she was annoyed at me just for mentioning I saw a happy couple. Set out to make me feel stupid and scorn at my opinion. 

She makes out like I'm making a big deal out of that but it is a big deal. She doesn't see herself in the wrong only sees me as putting her in the wrong. 

I agree I asked her to stop told her it was hurting me and she came back to double down telling me if I didn't like it I should go find a happy partner and make best friends with the happy couple. Totally disrespected me so much to the point I ended up disrespecting her back and calling her a b**** which I apologised quickly. I broke at that point because I can't handle yet another fight she started. The thing is I acknowledged I said something wrong and apologised but she didn't. Instead she decided to focus on the fact I called her a b**** and use it against me even until now. I also called her neurotic but she was acting like it. She went looking for a fight to get a reaction and she got one. 

The thing is I should of walked away years ago the first time she did it but I'm a soft idiot and kept giving her chances. Now I've developed feelings for what I thought was real rare love and its hard to walk away without it being painful but I know I should. 

Is there no way I can make her see how she treated me? All she has done is give a fake apology and say she should of "Used a better tone". She uses it against me now that I'm "dragging it out" so I can't even talk to her about it anymore. 

 

 

 

[basil67]

To be fair, you ARE dragging it out.    As I said earlier, trying to get someone to apologise when they don't think they were wrong is a fools errand.   

Given that she doesn't agree that she was wrong, you only ever had two choices after the fight:

1. let the disagreement drop

2. end the relationship

But unfortunately, you chose the route of pushing for an apology and trying to get her to see your side.   You're not going to win this.

[Warmer]

17 minutes ago, basil67 said:

To be fair, you ARE dragging it out.    As I said earlier, trying to get someone to apologise when they don't think they were wrong is a fools errand.   

Given that she doesn't agree that she was wrong, you only ever had two choices after the fight:

1. let the disagreement drop

2. end the relationship

But unfortunately, you chose the route of pushing for an apology and trying to get her to see your side.   You're not going to win this.

True I just can't understand how she doesn't think she is wrong because if I spoke to her like that she wouldn't like it either. It wasnt a disagreement it was her treating me with contempt and me objecting to it. 

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In a marriage, contempt is acting as though your partner is beneath you or not worth your time. It's disregarding someone else's thoughts and opinions or actively displaying scorn for them.

"Contempt is the worst of the four horsemen. It is the most destructive negative behavior in relationships. ... In whatever form, contempt is poisonous to a relationship because it conveys disgust and superiority, especially moral, ethical, or characterological. Contempt, simply put, says, “I'm better than you"

I will no longer push it, if she was going to realize she was wrong she would of by now. She would of seen my side by now if she was going to see it. 

I guess that's what love is then been talked down to and scorned for having my own views. I can ask her not to do that but she will just say "im not perfect". I never asked her to be perfect only to treat me with respect. 

Edited May 29, 2021 by Warmer

[basil67]

55 minutes ago, Warmer said:

True I just can't understand how she doesn't think she is wrong because if I spoke to her like that she wouldn't like it either. It wasnt a disagreement it was her treating me with contempt and me objecting to it. 

You don't have to understand it.  Rather, it's about accepting that you won't ever understand it.

55 minutes ago, Warmer said:

I will no longer push it, if she was going to realize she was wrong she would of by now. She would of seen my side by now if she was going to see it. 

I guess that's what love is then been talked down to and scorned for having my own views. I can ask her not to do that but she will just say "im not perfect". I never asked her to be perfect only to treat me with respect. 

What makes you think that her behaviour is representative of love?  

[kendahke]

4 hours ago, Warmer said:

It's more the fact she hasn't acknowledged she treated me bad.

If she never owns up to it, are you still going to stay with her? Because the day may never come where she antes up an apology.  You've going to have to be good with her having gotten away with this level of contempt against you and that she may take it further in the future to get the buzz she got getting away with it this time.

If she was capable or interested, she would have squared this away long before your found your way here.

[kendahke]

3 hours ago, Warmer said:

I don't think it's even that she is jealous she just used it as an excuse to pick a fight with me maybe to lead to this so I breakup and she can be guilt free. She likes to act like a happy couple when it's her own relationship, she just wanted to make me feel stupid and pick a fight. 

It takes two people to fight and you keep showing up to fight. She learned a long time ago that she can walk all over you. There is nothing noble in putting up with really bad treatment. This relationship is broken.

[Woggle]

Like I said in the other thread, why are you with this woman? What do you get out of this?

[smackie9]

You never answered my question...is this common for her to blind side you with a meaningless argument?

[Acacia98]

14 hours ago, Warmer said:

I asked her to treat me better she said

"I cant, it will always happen, I will always at some point say a thing in either a wrong way, or on a jealous cloud or whatever especially in ld" 

So in other words she will always disrespect me. Yes I feel like she has a low opinion of me the way she talks down to me. 

Yeah definitely has contempt for me she was annoyed at me just for mentioning I saw a happy couple. Set out to make me feel stupid and scorn at my opinion. 

She makes out like I'm making a big deal out of that but it is a big deal. She doesn't see herself in the wrong only sees me as putting her in the wrong. 

I agree I asked her to stop told her it was hurting me and she came back to double down telling me if I didn't like it I should go find a happy partner and make best friends with the happy couple. Totally disrespected me so much to the point I ended up disrespecting her back and calling her a b**** which I apologised quickly. I broke at that point because I can't handle yet another fight she started. The thing is I acknowledged I said something wrong and apologised but she didn't. Instead she decided to focus on the fact I called her a b**** and use it against me even until now. I also called her neurotic but she was acting like it. She went looking for a fight to get a reaction and she got one. 

The thing is I should of walked away years ago the first time she did it but I'm a soft idiot and kept giving her chances. Now I've developed feelings for what I thought was real rare love and its hard to walk away without it being painful but I know I should. 

Is there no way I can make her see how she treated me? All she has done is give a fake apology and say she should of "Used a better tone". She uses it against me now that I'm "dragging it out" so I can't even talk to her about it anymore. 

This is who she truly is, Warmer. And the thing is you can't change a person, nor should you try to make them change. You should observe them being who they are, and if it turns out that they don't respect you, you should walk.

There's a woman out there who will love you and respect you and have similar values to you. This woman you're seeing right now just isn't the one.

Seeing as you're having a hard time understanding why someone would behave this way, I'm gonna suggest that you watch the videos of Dr. Ramani's "Glossary of Narcissistic Relationships" series/playlist on YouTube. You can find some of them by doing a Google search for "Dr Ramani Glossary Narcissistic."

Now, I'm not saying your girlfriend is narcissistic. I just find that Dr. Ramani's videos, especially the ones in this series, do a good job of shining a spotlight on unhealthy behavior in relationships. So you don't have to be a narcissist and your girlfriend doesn't have to be a narcissist for the videos to help you. The videos explain various kinds of behavior and also get into why the person engages in them. So you might get some insight into at least a few of your girlfriend's actions and your responses to those actions. And doing that may help you extricate yourself from this unhealthy relationship sooner rather than later.

[Warmer]

13 hours ago, basil67 said:

You don't have to understand it.  Rather, it's about accepting that you won't ever understand it.

What makes you think that her behaviour is representative of love?  

You're right and nothing.

12 hours ago, kendahke said:

If she never owns up to it, are you still going to stay with her? Because the day may never come where she antes up an apology.  You've going to have to be good with her having gotten away with this level of contempt against you and that she may take it further in the future to get the buzz she got getting away with it this time.

If she was capable or interested, she would have squared this away long before your found your way here.

This is exactly how I feel and the real crux of the issue because if I let her get away with this she will think that she will never have to worry about arguing with me or disrespecting me as I will always choose her over my own self respect. This is what she said a week ago during after I told her how she hurt me and that I needed space because the rs was affecting my mental health. 

 

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her: I feel you slipping away. If this rs feels too unhealthy for you, and I know you try your utmost to stay healthy in every aspect of your life, I will let you go. I want you to be as happy and healthy as possible, feel like you need last push and help from me to finish us off, as were also giving up the most amazing thing that ever happened to us, so its not an easy decision. If that is what you want/need I will help you by making it easier for you. I will be ok, eventually and you don't have to worry about me if you go ahead with it.

me: I feel like like you don't take my concern seriously because you call it a 3 day tantrum that's talking down to me again and I grew up being talked down to by my sister my while childhood. I said sorry for calling you a b**** but you still didn't say sorry for belittling me just say I am sulking like you don't take me serious. It's like you can't see how you hurt me even after I told you. So I feel resentful and I don't like feeling this way.

I can see how hurt you are, hence my message

I can handle most things but when you belittled me like that especially afterni said i feel s*** and you came back to double down on it that really makes me feel s***. Yeah maybe you can seenim hurt but you can't see your responsibility in it.

I can see I made you feel that way and Im sorry for that

(She is only owning up that she hurt me but not that she has done something wrong to hurt me? 

You can see I feel bad but can you actually see why

A bit, but, tbh, can't understand why you feel THIS bad and why it has this much of an effect. Or well I can, based on your past but not based solely on those words from me, you can feel criticised but the level you are taking it and the amount of name calling I get after is a lot. But, I take you as you are so have to understand its that devastating to you so will be careful with it in future, if we have a future.

(Here she belittles the whole thing and blames the way I feel on my bad childhood. But at least in my childhood I was allowed to have an opinion without being scorned for it. I hate the way she says "that devastating to you" as if I shouldn't be upset by the way she treated me. She makes out like she says she has to be "careful" but I don't think you should have to try and treat someone with respect it's either there or it's not.

It's because you do it to me and then you turn it onto me and it escalates into this
And it's the same pattern that has broken me

Ok, hence my text earlier today

ok

I dont want you to be broken, I want the best for you. If thats with me, perfect its what I want, if thats without me, I will let you go.

I got took in by your love and respect for me but it got filtered away by you doing that so it leaves me feeling lied to I feel stupid like an idiot. We had long talks how we love each other yet you can't even talk to me properly. Hours of good talks I believed you respected me but in 1 split second I feel its all lies. I felt so disrespected so much I almost turned my back on you. And you didn't put it right so my tolerance ran out from the time I asked you to stop to me calling you a name.  Am I wrong to expect to be respected in this rs. If I want to think this couple seems happy I'm allowed to think that without being talked down to. You didn't get alot of name-calling I called you 1 name that resulted from you disrespecting me so you got disrespected back. No you don't have to be careful what you say to me so long as you maintain respect in this rs. My whole point is you were talking down to me as if I were a dumb f*** and I'm not. When have I ever tried to make you look stupid I either agree or disagree but I don't try to make you look stupid. You don't get the original problem only how difficult you find it. I never took offence to what you say to me I objected to it. It wasn't like oh you hurt my feelings it was no don't talk to me like that don't talk down to me. 

I already said how I feel about it plus apologized and said will be more aware of it in future, and have said will let you go if thats what you want. I dont know what else you want me to say/do.

Do you have to work so hard to have respect for me? You shouldn't have to try hard in future not to disrespect me it just shouldn't be happening

Take time to think what you want, if you need more time. This rs to continue and for me to keep working on it, or wanting to end it because it makes you almost permanently unhappy. Again, lets do whats best for you.

I never mentioned being permanently unhappy I pulled you up about a moments disrespect because I don't want you to look down on menwhen I talk to you. I don't talk down to you I want the same back that's all. If it was the other way around and I spoke down to you told me that you felt distracted by my attitude I would straight away salvage the situation by saying sorry I won't do that again not sorry you feel that way which is no better than your original comment at the start of this. It's such a non apology.

Ok well its good you got it off your chest, again what can I do now?

I weren't just getting off my chest. Basically you're just allowing me to say what I need to get this over and done with. 

Nothing I can do right now

Yes there is, you can take onboard what I'm saying. 

So lets do our own thing, and talk another time?

I don't think it's an issue of time. I made it clear and you don't agree with it.

I dont know what Im supposed to do am trying to be respectful and nice and let you vent and said Im sorry and will try better in future and if you want out I will respect that etc but your going on. Theres nothing I can do now. Lets do our own thing, you think and let me know when you ready to forgive/move on, or end it ok

Remember when Mario talked down to you and belittled you and you needed space from him because of it. It was because he didn't own up or take responsibility or apologise. He brought you a tree etc but you were still resentful. Same with you I wish you could say sorry I disrespected you (instead of sorry you feel that way because you're too sensitivity and it's devastating for you) that would make ALL the difference.

I said sorry I MADE YOU feel that way

"Sorry for making you feel = what I did wasn’t wrong, you just reacted badly. You’re apologising for the reaction not the action. It’s also a non-apology. Just apologise for the thing you ACTUALLY DID, not the reaction of the other person."

Im very tired can I go as even if I alologize for what I actually did you will say Im just saying it, or being sarcastic, or any of those words you always use.

(I asked her yesterday "Why can't you just say you shouldn't of spoken to me like that" Her reply Why make it sooooo big. Im not making the 59 awful things you threw at me that big. I already said that but then I get this...) Some other stuff she said too after the fight on ig

You made me feel stupid and you didn't listen I was hurt, you blamed it all on me. 

Yes and even if I did it shouldn't have this kind of impact

There's no love, I do not want my girlfriend to talk to me like that

Nonsense I love you more than anyone ever loved you as you are everthing.

I wanted someone to respect me, you don't love me if you don't respect me.

Same and I get that a lot, and sometime like tonight I don't. Don't change my feelings for you as I know who I am as a person. I love you oh you don't even know how much. You overreact, with all respect. To stop feeling it and breaking up.

You ignored me when I asked you to stop talking down to me, I plead for you that it hurt me.

It didn't seem like a plea of hurt just thought you was lashing out didn't think you was hurting.

Why ask if I was jealous and tell me I'm enamoured , it was you who was jealous of the woman.

Because you sounded so enamoured that's why I asked. Was you jealous because their rs is next level perfect because they are together and were not. So quite normal to be jealous. They live together no brexit no age gap no covid keeping them apart. So you or me could be jealous of them.

 

12 hours ago, kendahke said:

It takes two people to fight and you keep showing up to fight. She learned a long time ago that she can walk all over you. There is nothing noble in putting up with really bad treatment. This relationship is broken.

I know but it only takes one to start a fight and she blamed me for starting this fight. She is broken on so many levels.

12 hours ago, Woggle said:

Like I said in the other thread, why are you with this woman? What do you get out of this?

Because of the good times/love and all that.

12 hours ago, smackie9 said:

You never answered my question...is this common for her to blind side you with a meaningless argument?

Common? It's been going on for 3 years like this.

1 hour ago, Acacia98 said:

This is who she truly is, Warmer. And the thing is you can't change a person, nor should you try to make them change. You should observe them being who they are, and if it turns out that they don't respect you, you should walk.

There's a woman out there who will love you and respect you and have similar values to you. This woman you're seeing right now just isn't the one.

Seeing as you're having a hard time understanding why someone would behave this way, I'm gonna suggest that you watch the videos of Dr. Ramani's "Glossary of Narcissistic Relationships" series/playlist on YouTube. You can find some of them by doing a Google search for "Dr Ramani Glossary Narcissistic."

Now, I'm not saying your girlfriend is narcissistic. I just find that Dr. Ramani's videos, especially the ones in this series, do a good job of shining a spotlight on unhealthy behavior in relationships. So you don't have to be a narcissist and your girlfriend doesn't have to be a narcissist for the videos to help you. The videos explain various kinds of behavior and also get into why the person engages in them. So you might get some insight into at least a few of your girlfriend's actions and your responses to those actions. And doing that may help you extricate yourself from this unhealthy relationship sooner rather than later.

Thanks I will watch that series it looks good I'm aware of some of the abuse in relationships as I watch other channels but I need to learn more.

I am just reading through our fight on instagram from 2 weeks ago over this and she actually blamed me for starting this. Her response to saying this to me after I asked her to stop because it was hurting me

"If your sick of it and you dont want it anymore maybe you should find a next level rs like they have"

Yeah that was bc you started a fight

So because I objected being talked down to she blames me for starting the fight and dragging it out. I said I didn't deserve it she said "Well we don't always get what we deserve, same for me". I called her out for accusing me of starting the fight she said "it didn't have to go here no".

I aslo said 

You don't love me if you did you would care you hurt me and you would of stopped when I asked you to. You kept on disrespecting me so I disrespected you back calling you a b****.

It was after you saying your pissing me off, knew there and then abuse would start

It already started from you the moment you began talking to me with contempt. You're saying you weren't acting like a b**** then? Would you still act like that now?

You act like a moron, a devil, a freak sometimes. 1) I'm not telling you 2) I don't break up

Answer my question. You think you not acting like a b****?

You don't call yr woman a b****
You say, i don't like the way you talk to me

I did! You ignored it and doubled down on it talking to me with even more contempt.

Your getting more and more mentally abusive

(Some other things she said)

I know tonight I felt hurt and I told you and you ignored it and made me feel even worse

Maybe you can work on not getting hurt so easily
I think I wad stupid to trust our love I felt warm and secure but will never get to that point again. Use one wrong tone and yr being chucked out

I have you given youvsoo many chances

So many chances to be perfect

If you dont like the way I spesk say it and we had moved on to other topics leave it at that
You deliberely talk down to me I told you not to

You turn little annoyances into arguments, alwsys done it still do it. You still don't get my point

Who is analyzing things. Just bc I beg to differ is not talking down. You do same to me sometimes i dint make a drama out of it
 

I said I go out feeling good and you made me feel s***. That statement should of made you stop and think.

Your the one who wont learn you think I can only learn from you, and I do, but you stopped learning from me ages ago bc you think your the prophet

I don't want this type of rs where things have gotta be sorted out all the time. I tried to secure your feelings so you don't have this problem bit you still do.

If you dump me over this, it wasnt real anyways. Cant believe I was so blind

I told you before you will end up breaking me if you keep doing this. How the f*** do I deserve to be talked down to after I told you how much I loved you?

I trusted you to fight for us and work through things
Conclusion: Im such a bad person that I broke you and now you have to break up

If I spoke to you like that you would of noticed and if I continued to do it you would of told me to f*** off. (She really would of)

Yes maybe or I would have shrugged my shoulders but I wouldn't break up 
Your the one giving up, aftrr saying all these things You said Never
You said you want it to be forever it was deep and true and good, and s*** is there to solve

Considering I said all those things to you then WHY are you talking down to me. I made myself clear I loved you so you didn't feel insecure and now you use them against me like I'm a liar the methods you use to communicate is so frustrating
Yeah and I grt frustrated by you but dont break up, no way

You brought it to this With your stupid lack of self control. You wanna have a bit more consideration for the way you talk to people. I told you the direction this was going tonight and you ignored.

Another insult by someone who dont havr self control to not be verbally abusive, I mean !!

(She just focuses the argument onto something else whenever I try and make a point to her.


You didn't back down when I told you I didn't like the way you spoken to me. Now it's only about the way I spoke to you. Why is it only an issue when I speak badly to you?

No I always apologize
Next time I bump into someone I just won't bother telling you. I wont bother passing any info onto you. Cause i can't be arsed with the argument it brings me.

What nonsense

And the way you wanna make me feel stupid. Why should I take that on.  I should be able to speak to you without you wanting to make me feel stupid. Why do you want me to feel stupid for saying something. 

Why should I take on your issues. One does its called a rs.The question is, why do you FEEL stupid?.  Its in you not in me. You question conversatioms I have, Im ok with that

(I don't). 
Right so you provoke me and then when I ask you to stop and you continue I'm the had guy for getting pissed off. Yeah that's so fair
Your defence mechanism is installed so deep. Its you that FEELS provoked, it was me saying come on you dont know them
Because you're talking down to me and making my opinion an issue !
And I will always do something to piss you off and that is an excuse for you to be verbally abusive
And it shouldnt be as what I do is so small compared to how you treat me after

I told you it was pissing me off. If you can claim you're not perfect so can I. 

And I immediately habe to respond well. Like you can do that

[Warmer]

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Can you unblock me

I came online even though I preferred to ignore you, so can you do me the same courtesy and unblock me

I can't even say I saw a happy couple without getting into trouble for it talk about eggshells

And why you said it's over so

Ok I asked I did you the favor you didnt return it.

I came to you tonight and told you I felt hurt and you should of helped me then but you didn't you said this instead

"If your sick of it and you dont want it anymore maybe you should find a next level rs like they have"

You cant say I want this for life, I love you from bottom of my heart vs all the variations of Im done, cant do it anymore, every time after you feel I start a fight. It breaks me so of course at some point after being verbally abused I want to end it. Everything is so easily a fight for you, I can only be 100% loving and supportive, if not you feel attacked and its a fight in your eyes. I know you cant help it, but sometimes its hard to ignore those painful words, theres just so much and and so many of them and so easily and you distract so its not about that anymore. Your very clever in fights, you will always win and I know you have to because of your past. And I let a lot slide because of it but tonights words, I didnt expect I thought we had next level love and could handle a small disagreement.

Everything I say turns into a fight it's you who started its you who created a problem and noww you say it's me who easily is a fight

I don't want this anymore

And you say it's hard to ignore the words it's you who has the habit that you can't break

Cause I'm expected to not hold 9nto anything you say to me

What about Never what about the promises what about the connection and love

From that to I dont want this anymore

"If your sick of it and you dont want it anymore maybe you should find a next level rs like they have"

You can blame itnon me if it makes you feel better

"When you block me I don't try to get too upset because I trust in our bond

And I'm closer to you than anyone

Yet your done, over just tonight!

Just unblock me

Cause I'm expected to not hold 9nto anything you say to me - eh no but doesnt mean you can be verbally abusive!

You had no right to dispute my conversation but you call me thick

Always same look at what you called me omg it pisses me off no end

I had a s*** childhood but I was allowed to think for myself

Your so good at this but anyways

No your are cause you use emotional blackmail against me

Theres so many things you dont have a clue of yet. You will rhink of me 5-10-15-20 years from now and think aaah! Oh ok!

No you are

No I wont

You think your so superior omg thats youth when you think you know it all

Can you unblock me. We said were unbreakable so lets do it

Maybe in 26 years you will acknlowdlge I wasn't comfortable the way you were talking to me and you CONTINUED to do it totally disrespected the fact I told you I didn't like it THEN Starr throwing word disrespect at me. If you cared about me so deeply why didn't you back off at that point and say you were sorry you didn't wanna make me feel like that. Why did you continue to do it then start throwing the word respect at me. Where was yours!?

If you keep blocking me despite me asking thats a serious

In 26 years Im dead

My reaction was different than the words you felt you had to use

Different?

Im serious about the blocking

I can only ask so many times, its disrespectful to keep blocking

Why did you need to have a reaction

Why couldn't you accept what I saidn

I wasn't saying anything SHCOKING

There was no need to throw it back at me

Just let me speak

Without making something wrong about it

Not shocking?!!

You think thats normal to call your woman that?

I never said anything shocking

I said a normal thing to you

I said hello to someone on trail

I'm sick to death of all this analysing and jumping to conclusions

Why can't I speak without you pulling me up on it

Cause its offensive to me to be treated like that

Ok that means you keep blocking and were done?

But you pull me up on it and call me thick

I wasn't referring to something I said to you it was where this started which was you pulling me up on something I said. You allowed this to escalate by objecting to what I said and allowed it to turn into an argument. You could of just realized you were OUT OF ORDER TALKING to me like that cause there was no need for it. Just had attitude on your part. The way you manipulate the convo is controlling. Trying to makenit something I done wrong. How can me talking to you be my fault its not my fault you don't like what I say. If you loved me so much you wouldn't be doing that you wouldn't feel the need to do it you try and change the way I think and speak to be like that.

What I said today should not of been a problem

Maybe u meant it when I said it

But if you're gonna behave like this I can't keep that promiseb

I cantnt8lerate being treated like this just because I was talking to you

You can't accept what I say you gotta make me think I am stupid and talk down to me

Ok so Im blocked and your done with me?

Don't know

Let's have a week apart need space (she asked for a week apart first)

'But if you're gonna behave like this I can't keep that promiseb' (unbreakable)
How is that ok, but you being verbally abusive should be ok for me and it should not make me want to break that promise.
Promises from you mean nothing and love dont exist.

And Im still blocked in that week?

I didnt block you and came online when you asked

It only happened because you allowed it to escalate when I told you I was hurt I felt disrespected at that point if you gonna make me feel belittled and disrespected I'm gonna behave in a way that gives you the disrespect back

It's like when someone slaps you and you slap em back and they go oooooh you hit me

I ended up calling you a b**** out of defensive behaviour

You think you teach me lessons but you think its ok calling me all these names?

Why didn't it matter to you when I told you I felt s*** by you talking down to me

Now it's been done to you you're talking about respect only cause I've done it back to you

"I ended up calling you a b**** out of defensive behaviour." As usual, you have an excuse

You don't notice when you're doing it

You just don't like the way it feels when you get it back

You justify calling me a b**** and all

If you had took notice of what I saidni wouldn't of had to call you a b****

Instead of saying I should not say that

Wow

Well don't act like 1 then

Wooow

Accept you provoked this

And I told you I felt provked

You didn't hear it you carried on

Then when I called you a b**** because you were acting like 1 now everything needs to be discussed now I called you a b****

Cause it came back to you

If someone isnbeing a prick to me they will het knocked out

Don't give it if you cant take it

Who the helm are you to tell me I can talk like this or not like this or think like this but not like this

If you don't like the way I speak then bye-bye

Instead of calling me thick

Causenits not me with the problem it's you

I didn't have a problem with what I saidn today about that could

I'm sick of you trying to teach me to think like you

If tonight's comvo started again and I said oh happy couple would you STILL say what you said tonight or change it?

Who the hell are you to start giving it loads whether I should or shouldn't be saying they "seemed" a happy couple

Should of justnlet me sat what I said cause I never said anything wrong

What does it matter to you if I thought they were a happy couple?

If I provoked it (meaning you couldn't handle my opinion) doesnt mean you get a free pass to be verbally abusive. Again, disrespectful words there (who the hell are you, bye bye,). Im trying to teach you to think like me? No you just cant take it if someone thinks different.

And all of this because of that

Omg

Every time I think were close and solid you cant handle something and drop a bomb under rs. I really just really really started to trust you and us

It's you that throws a spanner in the works

I felt so happy, June on my mind, full preparation going

Just bc I said you cant judge whether ppl are truly next level happy from just chatting a few minutes.

And I still havent been unblocked, so disrespectful

It wasn't about your opinion it was your disrespect you honestly think the way you talked to me was OK?

Omg says the one who calked me b**** I dont even like you.

I mean how dors that work in your head

I know you cant help it and I need to be the wiser but urgj

It was you who couldn't handle my opinion!

You turn everything back on me

You blocked me, ok but after repeatedly asking you keep blocking me. Thats serious

I didnt agree with your opinion thats different

And you say to me I can't your opinion but I can you can say whatever you want to me and I DONT do this bit when I say something to you I get third degree and talked down to yet again and yet again and yet again

Too much hard work

Who f*** wants that

Wow thats you talking about our rs

You was in the wrong I told you I didn't wanna be talked down to and you still did it and I ended up calling you a vitch and now you're using it against me

I knew when it was good you would say this again, but this time maybe only 1%

You still justifying mentally abusive language

If its too much hard work (thats on you bc you cant handle anyrhing) and you dont want it, are you 100% ready to break up then?

Cant believe were here again. Damn me for not being perfect

I know you cant help it and I need to be the wiser but urgj

STILL INSULT8NG ME

still talking down to me

No its true its love I know you cant help it

Its defense mechanism from yr early childhood

When in a rs and you claim to care about each other and 1 says they don't like the way they were spoken to well to carry on doing it is just ignorat. You weren't thinking about our rs at all you just wanted to say what the hell ever you want

You felt jealous or annoyed

You can talk down as usual all you want

Goodbye

I will get nowhere with this

You don't intend to move past being a b****

Thats you breaking up with me?

If I provoked it (meaning you couldn't handle my opinion) doesnt mean you get a free pass to be verbally abusive. Again, disrespectful words there (who the hell are you, bye bye,). Im trying to teach you to think like me? No you just cant take it if someone thinks different.

Why did you pull up what I said then without just letting me speak why did it have to be a problem for you

YOU can't take it if someone thinks different

You blame it on ne

Even if it was a problem, doesmt mean you get a free pass for being mentally abusive and certainly no grounds to break up after what we had. Thats insane

Cant believe were here again. Damn me for not being perfect

Manipulating everything you say is kapilaution

It means everything you felt and said was a lie just the thought of the moment

If you didn't have the bad habit of analysing my opinion I could say what I felt without it being a problem

No

AAGAIN reading too much into it

Even if its a bad habit, you have some as well, certainly not breaking up over it

I told you I didn't like the way you were talking to me you ignored it and carried on that's provoking. You built the level of centenption there not me. If you really cared or knew me like you say you would of backed off and said you didn't meant to make me feel like that or I didn't mean to say that bit you didn't you continued because you always think you've got the right of way

How fragile, how easily we are broken

I gave you a chance to think about how you were talking to me

Yes right like you can always say that immediately
You cant but I have to

If you didn't want us to break up then why did you suggest it

I never said anything about breaking breaking you're the 1 who suggested it

They were your words not mine

Ehm bevause you called me b**** and 10 other characteristics like this

You can't keep manipulating me and emotionally blackmailing me!

Omg

How easily we broken?

How easily you didn't listen to me

My bad

Sorry

If you just listened to me instead of trying to correct me all the time

I trusted our love

Never mind I actually really thought it was for life

So if I call you a b**** cause you're acting liken 1 you wanna break up? That's fragile

And I only started thinking that recently

You so good at excusing your bad habits

But I was wrong never mind doesnt matter anymore

Why didn't you respect my feelings when I told you if you're such the WISER person why didn't you acknowledge the affect you had on me. Why didn't you back off Why continue to do it which led me to calling you a b****. I never sset out to call you one bit that's that's you pushed it to

Why didn't you acknlowdge my feelings

You ignored my feelings

And carried on

These past weeks was playing on my mind I want this for life, and it became real

I pushed you to be mentally abusive?

8f you're so f***ing wise why did you f*** up like that today

Sometimes your comms are just s***

Yes you did

I told you politely you were treating me wrong

You ignored it

And that led me to it

Yeah your right my comms are s*** and even if I f***ed out you choose to react like that

It's 1 thing not realising what you are doing it I told you

Your right everything you do is because I make you.

You could of done something at that point

You obviously didn't agree with it and you continued to do it

Or maybe because you just wanted to

I don't think you could get control of yourself and that'd why you continued

Your right Nate everything you do is because I make you.

And you gave me the abusive treatment over loving me

Omg you're going off the sidelines playing it

Why didn't you respect how I felt when I told you please answer that

Because I told you without calling you a b****

I didn't even have a go

I only said I weren't happy with the way you were talking to me you didn't even ask why

It really is my bad I really thought we was there. You are really excusing all the nasty things you said to me tonight

I thought from end of June we was gonna be together

But next yr gonna say Im happy Im here instead of in yr arms

And you gave me the abusive treatment over loving me. No if you had bothered yo ask why I was upset you wouldn't of being called a b****. Maybe I used the wrong choice of word I shouldn't of called you a b**** I should of called you an ignorant f***

I shouldnt have come on.just didnt want to ignore you as I thought you must feel bad writing those awful things. My bad

This convo will not go any further until you answer my question

An ignorant f***

It gets worse and worse

You act like yr my teacher or my dad

How can you use all these nasty words to describe the woman you love

Im heartbroken eberyrhing hurts

How is that ok to call me that.

How do you call your lover an ignorant f*** I mean I dont understand how you ok with that

This is the biggest disappointment of my life, I have been a fool to believe in love

I won't fall for this bullshit

Guilt trip me

Your cold, hard, relentless you dont care about breaking me

Answer my question please

You didn't care about me wheni said I was hurt tonight

Why was that?

Its only bc I love you snd bevause of our past Im still on now

Why did you continue when you could of backed off?

I didnt even see that

Same

You think fighting over something silly to prove your poiny breaking your woman im the procrss is more important than finding each otger again

You'd isn't see this are you kidding

You can be suoersweet and sensitive but yiu can also be hard as f*** just to stand up for yourself. Yr not a kid anymore on schoolyard.

Then why did you object to what I said

Why didn't let me say I met a couple and I like dthem

Why didn't you leave it alone

Instead of making me feel stupid for saying I met someone and I liked them

Well obviously I thought you came on to say shiit sorry I said that

Go and read the convo

Liked them ok but you reitetated many times I was like thats a bit much you dont even know them

I know you get like this you can really get into ppl and gurus

Yes cause I had to f***ing defend myself just to say they were a happy couple

You read all your verbally abusive stuff

Cause you were making out like I'm naive and don't know what I'm talking about

It was just a passing comment

You dont knoe if thry happy. He could have cheated on her last night

If I said that to anyone else It wouldn't of entered their head to find something wrong with what I said

All you could do was try and make me look stupid and I told you I felt s*** because of it

No you dont know adter 4 minutes and then yiu say it 5 times, Im like cooome oooon

If I said that to anyone else It wouldn't of entered their head to find something wrong with what I said - nobody else woupd get that verbally abusive over it and then blame the other for it

Well your breaking up or what

You dont knoe if thry happy. He could have cheated on her last night. Omg it doesn't matter I knew them for 2 seconds it's a momentary observation whether they are truly happy or not has nothing to do with you I don't give a shot I wasnobly interested in that split second they SEEMED like nice people. Then I was done and gone whether they are really happy who gives a shot I mean really who takes things that far it's not normal

Ive had it enough about that stupid convo and Ive had more insults in 1 night than I care for Im thick skinned but have a breaking point

I saidnit 5 tomes cause you started arguing the point!

No if you talk down to anyone they will get pissed off

Yes i can say you dont know if they happy if that makes you argue the point then who is syarting the fight

I RESENT being talked down to and so you would if I did it to you

Well you should of f***i g instigated it then

And I resent beimg spoken to in such a derogatory verbally abusive way

You didn't exactly back off or change your attitude

No not in a few minutes. Oooh shame on me. Wrath coming my wsy bwvause of it

Your not capable of love

I didn't argue the point I told you I didn't like the way you were talking to me which you proceeded to do and couldn't give a f***. Something made you feel jealous and you couldn't get control of yourself

you were annoyed with me

You only love wheb somebody is Always 100% perfect full of admiration etc. If not, grapes of wrath.

Look at the convo

Who put it there

You

The contention

Who choose to go verbally abusive? You

I even said I'm sick of tired feeling good and then been made to feel shot I was telling you I felt put down

Yeah in the end because you ignored what MATTERED

It wasn't the couple that matter it was feeling put down by you which you continued to do

Yrsh and im sick of you telling me every single occasion where Im not perfect

It's not a case of being perfect

I'm not asking you to be perfect

Manipulation omg

Well decide to break up or not. Im still blocked.

You're continually keeping the ball in your court by picking up on things that's gonna guilt trip me

You can say any manipulative thing snd its ok. Wvetuthing I say is manipulatove

You wanna be more careful how you talk to people

You're continually keeping the ball in your court by picking up on things that's gonna guilt trip me. Says the one calling me b****. I dont even like you. I mean how do you justify thst

You called me a basyard and evil other week

And that you hated me

You wanna be more careful how you talk to people. Lol after what you said, you think Im that daft

And you same

And that was in a fight

All you can focus on is that I called you a b**** not that you ignored me feelings in the first place and continued to provoje me

Tbis was bc master nate was not adored 100%

Whatever

I'm bored of your immaturity

Again, disrespectful

Its amazing how you can demand to be trested a certain way, yet you treat me like s***

Proper s***

Goodbye

Thats actually insane

You will never learn

Im immature when your that immature that you do this over that

Thanks.

Its amazing how you can demand to be trested a certain way, yet you treat me like s***. Omg you talk down to me and provike me and ignore my feelings and disrespect me then surprised when you get it back THEN say this

Do you get a kick put of reversing everything you do yourself onto others

Your making a mountain out of a molehill as usual

Everything you say is what you've done

So its late I have been offended treated bad all night. You say you love me one day, next you saying its too much bla bla

I went on my phone in a good mood to talk to you I said something you didn't agree with and you disrespected me

I told you

You ignored it

No you do thst dont psychogically do that

You carried on

You didn't consider ky feelings

That led me to calling you a b**** i genuinely felt you were

Because of this now it's all my fault

Cause I called you a b****

Nut you were acting 1 first

You just have 0 respect for me

Well you wanted to end it tonight

And so do I

What I did and what you did after is worlds apart on scale of disrespect

I can fully see how u healthy this rs is now

You want to end it?

It's hopeless

Hopeless?

Yes

So all that talk last weeks, poef gone

It wasnt true feelings then

Hope you're happy

I finally really trusted you

You started a fight andnyou got 1

Yout breaking up?

Hope it wasnworth it

Your breaking up over this?

You said we should let go maybe you're right

It's never gonna change is it?

No I wasnt

No your not gonna change

You mean I'm never gonna not get pissed off cause you're provoking me

Who has to be perfect now

And I will always do something to piss you off and that is an excuse for you to be verbally abusive

And it shouldnt be as what I do is so small compared to how you treat me after

Well we're not perfect

That's the whole point

I told you it was pissing me off

If you can claim you're not perfect so can I

And I immediately habe to respond well. Like you can do that

You didn't back down when I toldmyou I didn't likenthebway you spoken to me. Now it's only about the way I spoke to you. Why is itnonly an issue when I speak badly to you?

No I always apologize

Next time I bump into someone I just won't bother telling you

I wontnbother passing ant info onto you

Causeni can't be arsed with the argument it brings me

What nonsense

And the way you wanna make me feel stupid

Why should I take that on

I should be avlento speak to you without you wanting to make nefeel stupid

Why do you want me to feel stupid for saying something

Why should I take on your issues. One does its called a rs

The question is, why do you FEEL stupid?

Its in you not in me

You question conversatioms I have, Im ok with that

Right so you provoke me and then when I ask you to stop and you continue I'm the had guy for getting pissed off. Yeah that's so fair

Your defense mechanism is installed so deeo

Its you thst FEELS provoked, it was me ssying come on you dont know them

Because you're talking down to me and making my opinion an issue !

You beem wrong about ppl before

LOOK AT HOW YOU TALKED TO ME

Yet you say I know I can sense people

You know

You know exactly how you talked to me tobightb

No you're lying

It's you who had a problem

Not me

And you said you DID but it wasn't jealousy and you still haven't even said what it was then and I've asked 10 times

All this over that. Who has problems

You

Obviously

You make such big deals over so little

Its painful and immature

And insecurity

I didn't have a deal YOU did

Your lyinh

Oh f*** this

I got better shitnto do

It's like talkingngo a brick wall

No it's like talking to a mirror

Another insult. Yippee

A parrot

Thanks

Youre welcome

I wonder

If I wiuld say all these things to you

Gotta have the last word eh

Luckily Im not a young insecure girl

LOL

no you're not at all

And another insult

You're more than insecure you're broken

Its very clear that love you felt or say you felt is gone

And another insult

Yes everything is an insult to you

Omg to think your being loved to this

Let's break up

I think I am donen

Really?

Yes

You can change that soon?

From the love and sex and all of last weeks to that?

I didn't feelvlike this when I first went on my phonen

What, how? Seriously?

You brought it to thisn

Forever?

With your stupid lack of self control

You wanna have a bit more onsideration for the way you talked to ppl

I toldnyou the direction this was going tonight

And you ignroednit

Another insult by someone who dont havr self control to not be verbally abusive, I mean !!

I don't see why I should take liability for the way thisbendedn

I said to you I don't like the way you spoke to me and at that pointnyou didn't even give a f***

You cam break up in 1 night

And you talk about love and respect

You couldn't have backed off at that point and changed the direction but you pursed it

You couldn't snap out if your jealousy

After last weeks and years and the longing we had for each other recently

Where does that leave me in this rs

Your throeing it all away over that?

Are you mad?

Means I can never make any progress with you

Its the same pattern over ahdnoverv

I have made so much progress and so have you

Dont treat me like a child

You cantnhabdlenme having a kindnof my own or meeting other people

Same pattern with yiu as well

You really can do that, break up forgood?

Yes

Cause I'm going nowhere with you

Over a few sentences you didnt like?

I toldnyou at the START of this this convo tonight

Your going nowhere?

Wow

What was all that talk then lately

Thats insane

So you not coming in June?

No I'm not

I won't be spoke to like I'm an idiot

I'm seriously done

Last straw

I dont believe that, over a few sentences come on

When you can't even acknowledge what I said or hear my feelings its not a rs

You said you trusted our deep love and connection to help us through bad times

Especially when you said to me go and meet your new best friends

And go findnsomeone on another level

You said few days ago I love you so so much

Pff you say s*** like that

My god you serious?

You knew exactly what you were saying you spoken to me with intent and speak your mind whether I liked it or not

For thst your breaking up

Your throeing awsy 3,5 years just like thst in an evening? You was so happy. 

And now you're trying to find an excuse like you don't even regret that things have come to this. You're just making me look inadequate like I don't have enough love

Like it's me that can't manage the rs not you

Well you dont do you

Your the one giving up, aftrr saying all these things

You said Never

You said you want it to be forever it was deep and true and good, and s*** is there to solve

Considering I said all those things to you then WHY are you talking down to me. I made myself clear I loved you so you didn't feel insecure and now you use them against me like I'm a liar it's soooo frustrating

The methods you use to communicate is so frustrating

I NEVER expected this

Yeah and I grt frustrated by you but dont break up, no way

No YOU threw it all away when you decided to talk down to me and I toldnyou it was not acceptable but you found it was and continued. You onlynl talk about respect when you're not getting yours

If you break up I know I have to let go as you shouldnt

You feel I talked down on you a frw sentences snd you throw everything away

Are you insane?

Considering I told you I felt like that what are you talking down to menfor trying to make me feel stupid that's not supportive

But to break up forgood and let June slide

You shouldn't be talking to me likenthat

And when you love someone you don't do that

Thats insane and goes against eberything I believed in

I think its a f***ing shame

You shouldn't be talking to me likenthat - says you thsts insane as well

And when you're talking down to someone you knew what you are doing. If my sister came round and I talked down to her I would k now I was doing it nespecially if it was uncalled for. And when you're in that frame of mind to do that you DONT CARE

And when you love someone you don't do that. So why did you?

Thatsbwhy I felt you were being a b****

Causeni recognised what you were doing and you continued to do it

The fact you continued to do it is why I called you a b****. I pointed it out andnyou have no excuse to continue that means its deliberate you didn it

You throwing eberuthing we worked for and towards away

Its insane to break up over it and to break us

Instead of working it out

How can you let go?

That's why I ended up calling a b**** as you were doing it deliberately cause you didn't give a s***. Then you say oh you want me to be perfect but no I toldnyou how much i love you and then they talk down to you like that of course everything is going to go out the window. you did this and nownyoure just acting like I'm being insane

How can you let go so easily

Yes your insane for breaking up

Just bc atm you dont feel what we usually feel. But that doesnt mean yku shoukd break up

I told you before you will end up breaking me if you keep doing this

How the f*** do I deserve to be talked down to after I told you how much I loved you????

I trusted you to fight for us and work through things

Conclusion: Im such a bad person that I broke you and now you have to break up

If I spoke to you likebthat you would of noticed and if I continued to do it you would of told me to f*** off.

Are you sure?

Answer thus

Yes maybe or I would have shrugged my shoulders but i wouldnt break up

Do you honestly believe there is nothing wrong with how you talked to me?

After what we had

I dont know have to read it after

But even if, does thst give you an excuse for 15 abusive words?

You didn't wanna work it out when I spoke to you though did you? You could of said oh no I'm not talking down to you. You could of put it right

To break up over it!

And for thst, im being dumped

Thats not love

How can you be two people

f*** the preparations for June then f***sake being dumped after thinking finding true love

I don't want this type of rs where things have gotta be sorted out all the time

I tried to secure your feelings so you don't have this problem bit you still do

If you dump me over this, it wasnt real anyways. Cant believe I was so blind

And then to use it all against me

God you changed your tune soon

From everlasting deep love to nah too much hassle bye

But even if, does thst give you an excuse for 15 abusive words? The difference is I apologised for calling you a b**** but you continued to talk down to me

But ok have to accept it but dont understand it at all. I could never do that

Talking down to someone is not love either!

I didntbfeel loved or supported when you spoke down to me

Aftrr apologizing (not really an alology) you called me 14 nasty things

And I politely told you I didn't likenit

Then, you break up

A rs like ours

Omg how!

I guess it wasnt the same for you as for me

I thought on your part it was deep profound and unbreakable as well

The way you are defending it all when I toldnyou how I felt s*** it warranted an apology and you didntbeven put it right

Holy f***

You justblet it escalate into this

You escalated it but even if zi did

To break up

I trusted you

I can't continually take this it's so annoying you do this

I gave you my all and my heart

No apparently csnt believe you give up on us

You will never change

My heart was so sure

I changed so much

Never

You loved me when I was much worse why give up now

Like I said tonight I'm sick of feeling good mood meeting happy people and then feeling like s***

We was happy

It was so special how can you throw us away

Because it gets tedious having these pointless arguments over something that shouldn't happen

You had good mood because you knew I love you and were close to meeting

Well then dont argue

Its simple as that

OMG

Ooh my god

Ifvyou dont like the way I spesk say it and we had movef on to other topics leave it at that

You deliberely talk down to me I toldnyou not to

You turn little annoyances into arguments, alwsys done it still do it

See

You will never change

You just confirms it

I said enough things for you to trust me you should be trusting me

You should have faith in me

Just bc you cant handle it. No you wont change this. It annoys me but I still love you and still want you and June

Not talking down to me

Should he respecting me for the way I feel about you should be happy about that not talking down to me

I had faith in you. After tonight not anymore obviously bc your throwing us away

Your throwing us away

You turn little annoyances into arguments, alwsys done it still do it. You still don't get my point

No

I dont believe it

You said recently you will always choose us

So?

So I trust you in this

You csnt let a few sentences determine our future are you crazy

Its us

When I tell you these things andbi haven't done anything to sabotage that why are you talking down to me

It was not just sentences

Who is analyzing things. Just bc I beg to differ is not tslking down. You do same to me sometimes i dint make a drama out of it

I said I go out feeling good and you turn itntovshit

That statement should of made you stop and think

Your the one who wont learn you think I can only lesrn from you, snd I do, but you stopped learning from me ages ago bc you think your the prophet

What happened to you?

Your like a diffrrent person

Hard, stone cold not you

You give love and lots of it but take away when the other is finally in deep

I decided to be mature and tell you how nice felt that I felt s*** and asked why you were talking down to me. Why didn't you care? You didn't care I felt s*** you doubled down on it and talked to me even worse that makes it deliberate it's unacceptable

That's where I've called you a b**** cause it felt unacceptable

Yoi said so many umavceptable things to me

You can say I dont accept it. Instead of b****. I dont even like you!

You sure its the end of us?

It was not just a difference of opinion because I told you I felt s*** that I wasn't okay

Totally over, everything gone, no arms, no spoon, no June

You ignored the fact I felt s***

So did you often

If you had any love for me you'd want me to feel okay

So, so often

I could have ssid thst a million times, but I choose love

Not to end it or turn it into this

are you a parrot

I've NEVER talked down to you outside of a fight

I've never caused a fight by talking down to you

Im gonna ignore that. But its sad

Well if you ok with breaking up I should let you go

But in my mind its going mental

As how? How? How? Where is that love and bond? How to get over thst hsving felt so close

Noticed how still no apology even for talking down to me

Yes where is that love

When I am hurt

No im too busy processing losing us

Something I never expected

You're so keen on love and bond yet where was yours today

And csn literally feel my heart

My body is already in so much pain

From meeting up soon to never seeing each other again

How csn you be ok with thst

My heart is breaking

I'm not okay with that but I'm not okay with being talked down to either

I cant breathe

I didn't want anything anylzed people don't go around analysing everything

And cant swallow

Do you think that proves you love me more

Instead of talking like that act like it when together

Be sincere in rs

Have trust

And faith

Instead of all this other bs at the end of a rs

Im not sincere? I had A LOT of faith I been floating around on cloud of love

I trusted you

Didn't sound like it in your messagebtodsy

Cant believe your lettingbus go

Sounded more like you were looking down your nose at me

This is how it is with you

Always gonna be this situation

You talk like that all the time but its thr woman you love ur talking to

You can really act like a b**** no offence but you expectbtovgetcawayxwirh it

I don't talk to you like that at all

Stop repeating what I say back at me

Yes and we said any situation will do we will NEVER break up, alwsys fight bc its too good not to

You can't find your own complaint about me you just bat mine back

A b****

You should of stopped it when I asked you to and none of this would of happened

How am I going to be ok

I thought you wss coming soon

When you tell someone you don't like the way they're looking down on you and they ignore it and continie nothing good can come from that. Anyone else would of tried to put it right

So you wanna be witj anyone else. I thought we would meet soon, now nothing

I apologised straight away for calling you a b**** even though I was provoked and asked you to stop I didn't deserve that

Tell you what

Get some sleep and read again tomorrow how you talked to me

And whether you see things differently

It's not as if I haven't tried all night to explain what the problem is

So if I say I was a b**** were still on, if I dont you break up?

If you cant see with fresh eyes then it means to be with you I have to accept being spoken to like that

Its not like were together anywsys no matter what as we said and felt always

And you dont which means you leave me

And your not coming in June anyways

Why would anyone want to be spoken to like that and ignored when they said they were hurt?

That's not love

Its wrong we should have kept lov3 and bond even if we dont agree how the other spesks

You done thsy a million timrs to me but never mind

You shouldn of been there for me

Are you really ok losing us

Are you really okay to talk to me like that?

Im going bit crazy its first time in my life I felt this

Says the one calling me b**** i dont even like you, I mean how? I want to pull my hair out

I think I wad stupid to trust our love I felt warm and secure but will never get to that point again. Use one wrong tone and yr being chucked out

I trusted you and I trusted our future. Despite age gap, Brexit, covid, money I trusted our future.

Over last weeks it became clear in my mind we was going for it

I will never forget your words of love and I will always remember how they meant nothing when it came down to it.

I have you given youvsoo many chances

Meaning?

So many chances to be perfect

Shock Im not

Where is thid coming from? There was so much love before

You showed someone or talking to someone about it? Im trying to understand

Because you don't get it at all 

Im serious

You don't get it

I dont believe we breaking up, no way

Neither do I

But then again it's the same pattern over so nothing is changed

And nothing will

Loads has changed and you know it

And even if it hasnt it has and always will be worth it. Your words

I felt so good to day and now I feel like total shite massive headache

Same

We both did it though

You were fine today then when I mentioned this couple it's like switch flipped in you and you deliberelty hurt me

You didnt like the wsy I talked but went massively overboard you could have kept it small

Hurt yiu?

Out of curiosity

Actuslly It was you who didn't like what I had to say

I know tonight I felt hurt and I told you and you ignored it and made me feel even worse

No no wonder

Maybe you can work on not getting hurt so easily

Yes it's my fault for being hurt by you

Now you make me feel bad for being hurt

Maybe you could just hotn talk to me like like s***

Why dont you just take things as tips

No Im not, I never ask but always suspect as you have a habit of doing it no I don't actually

No I'm not I haven't for years so why you asking

You think your outcrystalized but yiu have things to learn as well

Ah f*** this

You are sooo f***ing patronising

Yet when you say it

I'm going

Same pattern, cant ssy anything to you without setting you off

Can't deal with this s*** anymore

You're indenial

Wow, this s***. Its us

Its not s*** its us 2 people

It's s***

Oh

Well not to me its the guy that I love and a rs I cherish

But apparently you over that

You changed

Doesnt sound like it thebway you talk to me

Yeah whatever

Blame me

And same

Bye

Why cant you find any love

I need a week of space

Its insane after last weeks so cold throwing me away

Can we stop arguing about it

You didnt like me needing it, so no we need to work it out

It's pointless as you just manipulate

Yes Im everything bad and evil

No but your were fine to ask for it and hour ago

But Im not the one breaking up

So why now you wanna work it out?

Yeah and continued tslking

Obv was very hurt by your mentally abusive name calling

Only because you realized you couldn't do a week of space

I can but dont want to

You couldntb

Why you think i csnt

Cause you can't even give me 2bdays in past sometimes not even 1 day

And you can't if you think things aren't okay on my side

You go from loving me like crazy to not loving anything about me, its heartbreakinh

You can only say a week ofnsoace as punishment of you feel like ill just wait around

That's because you disrespect me

Where was your love when I asked you to stop

Where was your love when you were talking down to me

I went in with all my heart its something Ive not learned or known before

For no reason

Was that all your heart tonight

The times you treated me bsd I forget about in a hesrtbest

So loving eh

You still going on over a few sentencrs, endless lunishment saying yr nit coming in June

That wss right after b**** I dont even like you what you think!

The times you treated me bsd I forget about in a hesrtbest. I call you a b**** after you prove me and I already said sorry and you isenit as thenfocusn point of tonight's argument when it was you who started it

No you was loving. How can you not sew that

So no you dontnforget in a heartbeat

No it was before I called you a b****

I dont want to break up. I love you with all my heart, despite some s***, and I want you to come in June. But I wish you would stop feeling mistreated so soon and I wish you would not be so verbally abusive. Such a waste of time.

You dojtnlove me

Ah true

If you did you would of cared tonight I was upset

Instead of continuing to hurt me

It was after you dsying yr pissing me off, knew there snd then abuse would start

It already started from you

And you saying you weren't acting likena b****?

You act like a moron, a devil, a freak sometimes. 1) Im not telling you 2) I dont break up

Answer my question

You think you not acting like a b****?

You dont call yr woman a b****
You say, i dont like the wsy you tslk to me

I did!

You ignored it

And continued even worse

Your getting more and more mentally abusive

You are!

8mg

Omg

Why

Why the f*** do I settle for this

Settle?

Answer my god damn question

We both lucky to have the other

You think you not acting like a b****?

Despite this s***

Yes or no

Those sentences?

The whole s*** about this couple

The rest of tonight, no. Those few sentences about the couple need to read

Not a few

The whole thing

Why is it so important a matter of life and death to you

I knew you were starting a fight soon as you said thus

To stay in a good rs or to abandon kt

Soon as you asked me ifni were jealous

Like who even asks that

And telling me I'm enamoured

It was you who was jealous

Because you sounded so enarmoured thats why I asked

You're so insecure you don't like me talking to ancouple

I didn't at all!

What why

I only said they seemed happy

And you made it a huge issue

Like I said I dont even know where youvwas last night and dont ask so

That was fine first time

Tgen again

And agsin genuinely do seem happy

And again

Then Im like oooookkkkkk

So?

Obviously you don't know where I am but you don't likentjat I am talking to another woman

So thats a bit much

Even if her bloke is there

Why ask me if I am jealous

It wasnt her

No of their so petfect rs

I only said ONE time they seem so happy and your reply to that is "I hope they are but nothing is ever as it seems. Did you feel jealous?"

Was you jealous bc their rs is next level perfect

Straight away why even say that

Why make it an issue

Bc they are together were not

I know what this about

So quite normsl to be jealoys

You're annoyed that I said they seemed happy

Andnyou couldn't control it

Admit it ffs

They live together no brexit no age gso no covid

No I'm not jealous bit you clearly are annoyed that I might be jealous but it's only in your insecure head

So you me or us could be jeslous of them

Bit you make it like Im jealous of the woman

No it's not normal to be jealous

It was about the rs

Yeah THATS why you were being funny with me

I wasn't enamoured at all you were just jealous of me saying they seemed happy

Well if people live in same country and dont have to deal with brexit yiu can feel normal jealousy for a sec whats wrong with that

But it's you theat was jealous!

Pff you never trust me

Andnyou started treating me badly because of it

Like I am stupid for saying they seemed happy

Then taking the piss when I askednyou to stop

You never admit the truth

Yeah I wish we could have walked togetber today and have easy future but if I ask if you felt jealous you assume I mean something else, jealousy towards a woman

This is so obviously shows you are jealous

If your sick of it and you dont want it anymore maybe you should find a next level rs like they have

Yeah thst was bc you started a fight

Whatever it was I didn't deserve it!

OMG

OMG

IM DONE

f***ing done

Well we dont always get what we deserve, same for me

I started the fight tonight?

f*** thud

Bye!!!!

It didnt have to go here no

What?

Come on

I'm so f***ing oissed off how

So pissed off

How the f*** can you even have the audacity to say I started the fight

You so easily are, work on that its not healthy. I know for sure ssid since fight one, you drag it on want every word examined.

Stop talking to me that way come on

I swallowed a lot tonight at some point its done

And Im still blocked

Can you come on as I did when you asked me

No

I'm shocked by your indenial your manipulation and your lack of love for me

I dontnthink you respect ne

Me

MY lack of love?

You proved it tonight

And no respect is no love

You breaking up over a few sentences thats insane

I'm very hurt

YOU are hurt?

Yes

Let's end it

this is not healthy

Never has been

Never will be

Good luck with your life

Looks like you were looking for a reason to break up anyway as how can you end it over this

No!

But I can't be a part of it for my own mental health

Are you crazy!

No no no

No I'm crazy I didn't do it sooner

Never has been healthy?

No never

No you dont mean that

Sooner? No

Always a fight at least once a week

I'm sick of walking on eggshells

I can't say anything without anfight

And then I get blamed for it

I don't want it anymore

I think it's best for you too

NO

NO WAY

I dont believe you

This relationship triggers something in you that is not healthy for you

Our hearts will die

They won't

No no and no

It will be s*** very s*** but we neednto pull the bandaid off

And find people who are better for us

We can't continue

I don't want it anymore - of course you do dont be stulid

I'm sorry I didn't want tbisbat all but it's really affecting my mental health

I can't stay happy with you

And find people who are better for us. NO!

You ARE happy with me youve been so happy

You think I really want this as my future?

Yes

You think I am happy?

Of course you want it forever

I'm notnhaooy I'm ficking miserable

So f***ing miserable

Yes your very happy happier than losinh me unless you lirf

I'm sick of feeling stressed about this rs

Your not maybe only now

We need to not have to worry about it anymore

Its us!!

No Id rather worry every now and then

That's the problem

And have us its eberything

Us doesn't work

There's no respect

But we

We was happy it was everything

No I believe in us

Us works us is life

Well I'm sorry but I don't anymore

Of course you do its hard sometimes but its way deeper than that

I don't think you will ever realize how much this RS has hurt me

You dont give up after one evening

It's not just elevening

And you know that

Unhurt it there is so much love and longing

Its everything

I don't feel it

I feel like this rs is just hurting me

The love bond and connection is gone just like that?!

No yr happy so often

We have something most ppl will never feel

It's not 'just like that" and you know it

I wouldn't want anyone to feel like I do

Yes as we was happy going for it till toniggt

Not even Sophie

Thats in you not just on me push through its us and us is evetyrhing and you know it

This pattern has been going on for weeks and months now

We do close to June we no

So? It was still good enough

Its way better than it was

And its ld hickuos

What do we even have you don't like me or respect me

We love each other so much if you give up on that you just stupid

Whst do we even have?

no if I stay I'm just stupid because I'm just getting hurt

You forget you talked very disreslectful all evdning to me as well. I hate it but dorsnt change my feelings for you

Omg you serious?

Because i can admit where I was wrong I even apologised

You can't see your part at all

And blame it on me that I started a fight

You will never see

I akwsys see alwsys alologize

But I dont throw us away

You said I started this fight tonight

Yes you do tho

You always take it to a break up always

You did tonight

No NEVER

I really don't want to go tovspain

I can't

And so do you. You started tonight by saying pissing ne off cant do it st like that

I can't do it cause you're like the way you are and I don't wanna have constant fights all the time

Oh no no

I don't want to have to be careful of what I say incase you act funny

The way I am is the way you love me

Same!

No I didn't!

Why the helk do you think I was getting lissed off in the first place!

I said somethjng tonight, you didnt take it well I am the one havi g to be carefuk

Bullshit

It was you who didn't take what I said well!

Did you book that ticket?

Yes unfortunately

We can agree to disagree dont chsnge my feelings

No

Not unfortunstrly of course your coming its us we need us

You started the fight tonight and if you cant even see that then there's zero hope for us

Dont do this we have somerhing uniwue dont throw us awsy

Zero hope?

You wanted to come so badly I love and need to hold you

Why taking the piss?

There was no need

" I don't feel it " if they would have told me yesterdsy you was going to say this I would have laughrf

What you expect after tobightb

Not this

I only feel exhausted and angry

And if that text is enough for you to break US up!

Er

You should feel happy and grateful

It was enough for you earlier!?

grateful!?

Wtf

Honestly you said things million times worse pff get over it you know I love you

How the f*** should I feel happy

You're delusional

Bc we have us and June coming

Delusional, another one for the list

You think I am happy to look forward to this pattern over and over again

Are you miserable in this relationship?

Bc you said you was happy

If you had any love for me you would of stopped when I asked tonight

And I felt it and I felt hapoy

Yes I am unhappy

Im happy but only until the next frequent fight

Ok my bad. In my opinion we both grew and chsnged a lot, and love reached new depths and June was what we wanted and us was everything

and then saying I should take it as a tip

Like who does that

Exactly so why did you feel the need to talk down to me

Why?

I thought this airport meet would be best ever

As I felt more secure re your love for me than ever

If you felt so secure then why talk down to me

Was 100% sure June was going to be forever

I dontnthibk you have changed at all

No? Wow

Ok well

And answer my question

You keep avoiding it

I know I have

If I read that

Yeah maybe you have some questions and maybe you could have said why you ask if Im jealous then I could explain

But to break up over it, after making me feel so loved

No

You escalated it to this

Not me

You only have yourself to blame

No. Even if it would be all on me

And I ask again why didnyou feel the neednto talk down to me

And why did you not stop when I asked

Your bf of 3,5 yesrs you went on this amaxing journey with breaking up over it, thats not good

When I said I was hurt

Why didnyou continue to do it

It's not JUST that

Ever heard of the last straw

You do that too sometimes you dont hear the other at that moment no big deal can talk at a latee time or just leave it

Andnyou were perfectly fine to wantnto brwk up over it tho,!

The lasy straw but we was happy

Answer the question

Why?

I font undetmrstand you csn switch from love and connection to last straw

Why?

Why what

Why didnyou feel the need to talk down to me andnmake me feel stupid

Why do you swear at me, wby does ykur reply dometimes sound funny whyvwhy who cares why do you feel stupid as it wadnt my intention

And yes it IS a big deal I said I was hurt ffs

You ignored it

And continued to act like a b****

To be dumped over that

You loved me youoved me so much

Now Im a b****

Because I've had it with this crao

I toldnyou it will break me

I toldyou

Thats not love. Final straw but you said it was strong and good and you booked a ticket

yes andnreally I'm stupid for thinking things would ever change

At least I didn't get on it

No you said it wouldmt you wouldnt let it and how can somethjng so silly bresk you to the point where your 'not feeling it'

Thats sad

If you want to continue this rs then you start talking to me with respect or you can leave

We wanted to be together so much we was umbreakable

Bit your miserable and unhappy in this rs

We ARE if you respect me

Otherwisenits like fick off then

Wow

So disrespectful after asking for respect yourself

Yes cause you have no respect

No itsncalled a boundary

We are breakable if Im not perfect. If im perfect were unbreakable

You just want me perfect or to f*** off

We are breakable if you make it toxic

Which u keep doing

Like I said

Toxic but yr verbally abusive to the extreme and thats like ok?

Treat me with respect or leave me the f*** alone

I always treat you with respect

No

You

Do

Not

If I dont agree doesnt mean its disrespectful

Let me ask

So you think you treated men with respect re happy couple?

I asked you to stop!

Do you think you treat ME with respect?

You think you deserve any after talkingndown to me after I asked you to stop!?

I asked you to stop re Brexit so often no you went on and on (I was trying to secure our future)

Same re hotel

I was trying to secure our future ffs

So many examples

You were having a damn hissy fit over something ridiculous

AlwYs an excuse I begged I cried

A hotel in a pandemic yeah!

Great idea

god

Are YOU thick?

Disrespectful again

You dontnserve any

You wannancallcme thick ill call you it

Hissy fit? What was ridiculous?

Yes over that couple cause you had a problem

I think by now you have been disrespectful 50 times more than I have so you can stop

You're a liar

That was a hisdyfit in your eyes

And you are indenial

52 times

Yeah still got loads to go to match you

How immature

Coming from the most immaturenperson ever

53

Who is 51

But acts like a teenager

54

55

I'm going

Well done

You started a fight hope you're happy

Going forgood?

I don't know

Need some space to think straight

One day you think you have the gteatest love ever, next day he needs space

I suggest you do sane

Cant do space anymore

1 day you're good giveth next day they talk down to you like you're a piece of s***

No i know what I want and you cant leave me in the dark after awful things you said about me and the rs

OK then let's break up

It wasnt that bad and you repaid me much worsw

It was and itnalwaysnwillbe

Really? Forever forgood?

Wasting my time explaining it too

I dontnknown likeni saidni neednsoacen

But you won't give me it

You shouldnt need space, its us

It's not upto you what I need or don't need

We way past that we should feel secure despite a thing

Exactly!

You ok leaving me hanging like that broken hearted having a busy week with driving

I knownfor sure I cantntell you about my day as you might get funny about it and cause a big fight

Again

No but I'm notnokay with this rs

Well I dont want to break up, I still feel you and us is everything. If you lost that in 10 minutes?

Your not ok with this rs?

I need space you can't understand that?

Have I been blind or daft thought you was happy

No I dont understand and cant give it you

You think this is OK?

Im not doing it Im secure in my love for you

Well i need to sleep

My head hurts so much

And I'm trying to fixnmynsleep

Im trying to fix us

I need to recover from this unhealthy rs

Too late

And yr fixing yr sleep for June

Should of tried when I asked

Unhealthy rs?

Too late

No I'm fixing my sleep for my health

You seriously really breaking up?

Yep

I cant believe that

After all that love and longing for each other

No way

I told you right now it's what I want

Swear on your legs

But my head hurts and I'm exhausted from all the fighting

I swear on my legs

You swear on your legs your breaking up?

Yes

I've had enough

Thats a f***ing shame I love you and was craving June and us and your body and my heart was all and only yours, I loved and trusted us.

Sorry

I thought we was unbreakable. I will never understand how you changed this quickly. I was so sure you loved me and what we had was unique.

That's the problem

I dont want to end things without clearing my head first

How about connection and eberything we been through, adventures, sex, trust, future

I need to make the decision on a healthy mind

You swore on your legs so must be true

Yes it's true I feel right now I do

You should know instinctively

And I neednto see if I feel same way

f***

I neednto listen to my brain but I cantnrivhtbhown cause of all ti's fighting

Hoe can you feel that how csn us not be most important thing in yr life

Well, f***

Cause its affecting my health

And it's hurting me

Yes I made you trust love and be happy

Well get over it, I do, its simple just do it

I don't trust it and I'm not happy I'm miserable

I can't I'm so hesdf***ed

I thought I made you happy

I feel completely numb

And like I neednto cry

So did you lie was you miserable all along?

But I can't

You broke me

I csnt talk to you about that

I broke you?

Yiu broke me

No thsts not me thats old pain

I love you so I cant break you

Why

I wanna just die

You broke yourself its not me

I hate people

See thats not me as all you read if my love for you

You made me feel stupid

And you didn't listen I was hurt

And you blame it all on me

Yes and even if I did it shouldnt have this kind of impact

There's no love

I would not want my gfnto do that to me

Nonsense I love you more than anyone ever loved you

As you are everything

I wanted someone to respect me

You don't love me

I feel sick

Same and I get that a lot, and sometimes like tonight I dont. Dont chsnge my feelings for you as I know who I am as a person.

At least I feel safe here

I love you oh you dont even know how much

I am so terrified to go to Spain

Its such a shame

It could of all ended if you listened to my feelings when I askednyou to stop

Thats so sad as it would have been perfect.

It wouldn't of

If I came in and told you I saw a happy couple

I'm just glad I saidnitnhrre not there

You overreact, with all respect. To stop feeling it and breaking up

My feelings arenreak

I felt soooo s***

I wanted to call you a b**** right then but I didn't I resisted and tildnyou I was hurt but you doubled down on me omg

So do I sometimes when you attack me.

Ugh

Do you gave up on us, thats a right shame

Forget it

We should have talked about why it made you feel like that, but we can never go there

Im in disbelief but you never swear on your legs do you mean it

Entire future, gone

I should of asked why you ignored my plea of hurt but then again I shouldn't have to if you kove me

I have ran out of hope

It didnt seem like a plea of hurt just thought yiu was lashing out didnt think yiy wss hurting

That's what kept me going

Hope was hope what kept yoi here

Of course I was hurting

Not the rs, but just hopes of a better rs?

You don't understand me then

It wasnt enough or good enough you was just hoping it would get better?

hope you would change

My god

I thought I was good enough the way I was

The fighting has truly broken me

And have changed and am changing but it ls never good enough

You haven't changed

Unbresk the broken its not necessary I love you

Of course I have

Its all worth it

I need some space to clear my head

I can't deal with this right now

It's too much

Cant do that sorry but no were in too deep if yiu csnt say I love you too and of course were on we are everything

You dont have to deal there is nothing to deal with

If I was to die July 1st will you regret not coming?

I neednsoacen

Stop doing this to yourself its not necessary

No cant give you space after tonight

If u loved me u will

Thats too severe a punishment, Im driving all week I busy

If I cheated, something like that ok but over this?

It's not punishment

I really need it

You acted likeni cheated earlier

When I mentioned couple

I really csnt give it you, the change from June forever to swear on my legs Im breaking up is too much to live with with you 'thinking'

If you dont feel love and connection your unhappy and I broke you, make a choice. But know you are my heart and was my entire future.

If you csnt give me space then brwk up with me

Cant believe this is happening throwing us away

Never!

Then respect my wish

No you should always choose me

To even think you wont is mad

Snows how little you love me that you can't even give me time

Thats so against what you been saying

No csnt ss I ssid wben lifechanging thing hsppenef but to probably being dumped over this is insane

Let me think I need some time

If you cant then you never truly loved me

You shouldnt need it all you need is to say you love me and of course June is on

Then if you need space, fine

No I need to sort my head out that's what I need

Stop doubting my love for you

I neednsomentomento get my thoughts and feelings together

It will be good for both of us

Use the time apart to stay busy

And reflect on this

Im not sitting here waiting to be dumped after just one conv in which my bf changed his mind about everything

No

OK then we break up

Im not up for that

Im not up for that also

You can't give me space how selfish is that

Nothing sbould have chsnged in your mind unless you been lying

Are you kidding men

After all this s***??

Yes selfish but being told this after one night

you think ntojingn should of changed in my kind

The greatest love and my future, gone

I'm going okay

Give me space or break up

Your choice

I need an in between

Make the decision

Cause I'm going to sleep

Unbelievae one dsy yr being loved next day he csnt even say be loves you

I tried everything but you csn just take your love away just like my mum

You dontnlove me

You justnwanjanbe right

No I dont wsnt and think I should lose your love over this

You break my heart

If you think YOU are hurting

Your my mum

I am saying I need space when I'm thisnhesdf***d and you can't even respect that

Give snd take away as you pleasw play with the others heart of whom you know is so vulnerable

It's not like I am being unreasonable either

No your just bresking up afyer what we had no not unreasonable at all

Respect my boundary for space or break up

Your choice

Stay in this f***in awesome rs or break up your choice

You cant do that to me

You gotten me all soft and completely IN you then you lose it in 1 evening. It was the best strongest rs and you know it

Make a choice

Your IN me all the time

Space or breakup

No space I cNt i wont survive

I need it

You got to help me you know it will kill me

I did it before but this is so diffrrent

no it won't

Do you love me

Yes

But I need space

Are you breaking up

No I need space

Are you coming in june

I dontnknow

If ur not coming its a break up how can you not want to comw what why how

I said I need spacdnto think about it

How f***ing insane is that thats just how am I ever going to trust your love for me again

I need time to truly collect my real thoughts and feelings

You never do anyways

Yr REAL thoughts? Youve known them since 3 years

So can you please give me some time

I did I reslly finally did

Funny thjng is

Stop guilt tripping me

That when I finally let my guard down I thought hes not gonna come, I knew it

No

If you cantnacceot my need for space we neednto break up

No space only space if June is still on as it sbould be

Seeing me after 6 months one hour online and its off

I neednsoace dontnyou get it

What about what I need?

I'm f***ing angry

And upset

And confused

And you cantneven give me space

How is that love

Why the f*** why? I am entitled to those feelings

Why you, Im only saying nice things

Again, needing space over this when we have whst we have sbouldnt be necessary

Yes it is very

I cant give you thst space now I have feelings too live alone am vulnerable need to focus this week

Right now I don't feel like continuing but I'm asking for space because I need to decide if I can keep doing this to myself

Then the space will do you good too so you can focus on being busy

Its too big a chsnge for me to handle after finally giving you my heart

Doing to yourself? Like our rs is mental torture

No sorry cant do it

You can't even respect my wish for space

If you change overnight not even overnoght actually snd are ok leaving me in a mess thats not love

Everything I believed in was a lie, how you think thats affecting me

I f***ing lovef you like I never loved before and you said same

So how come you feel your doing something to yourself by staying with me

I was overflowimg with love for you. For you to suddenly not feel it is the scariest thing ever.

OK you guilt trilping me

Just give me some time I can't deal with this right now

It's too much

I wished I never let you into my heart, you killed me. Your a liar and a fake and I will never forgive you.

No

Whatever

There was nothing to deal with

Can't believe you're 51

You axt like a f***ing teenager

Absolutelt nothing there was only love

So you refuse to give me space

Yeah I know you hate me you just led me on I opened up everythjng for you

If thays what you think then you truly don't understand me

Yes you cant treat me like this if you love me. I wont survive you know my heart is small and you crushed it

Guilt trip much

I trusted you loved me and I truly loved you

I was SO sure

I was sure you did

It doesntnhavebto be this way

You could just given me space

Have never been as insulted as tonight in my entire life, by the only person I love

Same

Love does not exist you proven that

Never been so headfufcked by someone I love

Nah you did

Im sorry I fell for itbut I loved you too much

Let's start disconnecting

Will be easy after this

Start? You apparently disconnected ages ago

I was warned by everyone

You just neglected to tell me

Easy?

Goodbye then

You won't give me space andnyou guilt trip me

And use emotional blackmail

You lied to me about your true feelings for me, which is the worst you can do to someone

You tell yourself that

You just sat out hope

You told me

Itsbeasier than admitting your own mistakes

At least I was sincere and always admitted

I would have taken a bullet for you

A bullet?

Yes

You can't even talk to me respectfully

I can, but not when Im wsitimg for a break up

Question is, would u have taken a bullet for me

Well if you hadn't started a fight like you always do it wouldn't of escalated to this

I would of died for you but now o think that would be stupid of me

As you alwsys have your mouth full of love but when its crunch time you disconnevt and tell me you was just holding onto hope

Wow

Why woukd I die for someone who talks down to me

How dumb is that

Disconnected a lot already. Goes to show it was never real

Listen to yourself

I been played

Crunch time was me asking for help tonight andnyou ignored me

A few sentences he dont like, and awsy with Renata

Been played for what

Its sinking in

Why f*** would I waste my time

And allow this amount of stress if I was playing you

It's not about your sentences

It's about you deliberately making kenfeel bad

Its insane your breskimg up over that must be more

No most ppl would of broken up agaes ago

This is a last straw

As you was holding onto hope, did you start talking to others?

Is there another?

No

Nobody

You didnthis yourself

Wow you saying you the only one who would hsve stayed

I did nothing I loved you all the wsy

Is this why you wentnfor me as a younger guy

Causenyou know len your age wouldn't put up with it

But it wasnt deep for you, alll that bs in video it was a lie

Omg

f*** you

Wow another kick

I wrote all that stuff in video and you use it against me

I will not say it again dontnworry

Wanna leave me with the worst feeling evee

Yes bc you do totslly opposote

Why causeni need some space

Oh I never felt that close to another human being

Right

I know don't I feel stupid now

But oh hey I was only holding onto hope, your nit good enough moving on

I'm done arguing

Yes you lied so should feel stupid

You broke my heart in million pieces nit that u care

You truly dont care about me

You finished?

How am I ever going to recover from being burned to the ground by the person I loved but tricked me

I never tricked you

Just because I refuse to accept toxic rs doesn't mean I tricked you

No im not dying over here you lulled my entire foundation away

No I didn't

You lied about so many things how I dint know how im gonna reco er

You wanted a fight tonight You got 1 and then say you got burned to ground

No I haven't

Your mentally abusive as f*** yet calling me toxic

Oh am I?

If I'm so abusive why are you with me

Your the biggest regret of my life. I was a fool to try this love thing.

You mine!

To both learn

You will never learn

I know you been fooling me into thinking you truly love me

I so believed it would have given a hand for it

Why would I waste my time doing that

One evening, ooops its gone not feeling it anymore

It's not one evening

It's a last straw

Ah no I forgot you been feeling this forever just holding onto hope

I told you before carry on and you will break me

Tonight you did

For how long? Months?

And now I need time

Nonsense you broke yourself wSnt me it wS easy to get back from. You consciencely broke us gor reasons your nit telling me like you dont tell me mosr things

I f***ing thought you was happy with me how stupid can you be

I don't wanna argue anymore

We was gonna have it all in June

I know wazting yr time on old woman blabla

Yeah but you f***ed it up

By words over a couple. Thats insane. You dont love me

you don't love me

I think you never did you just passed your time wanted me perfect Im not so Im trash

You could of said yes I will give you space I understand you're hurt and confused

But you guilt trip me instead

As it makes you feel better

I have changed a lot and not lettimg you tell me I havent. And so have you. Were both in some old patters sometimes yes but who cares doesnt change my love for you

I told you I love you what's that gotta do with it

Amazingly I still do

After all this

No dont understand yr hurt and confused what I do understsnd is yr using this as an excusw not to come in June

But doesn't mean i want to keep getting hurt

You KEEP hurting me

NO I'm ficking hurt

And terrified

Thats not amazing I showed more love than you did tonight you should be ever so grateful im always there for yoy

I grit my teeth and hope you will change because I love you and you are theb1 doing the hurting so our rs could continue if I just didn't let the fights get to me

But they fuxking broke me

Your hurt so easily its insane yet I still love you JUST AS YOU ARE

Thanks for that

You had to grit your teeth

Ever so grateful what an insult to injury

Hoping I would change

Yr part of the fights you broke us

Just as I am? You can't even accept my opinion on a happy couple!

No you broke us

I wouldnt have let anything break us I love you just as you are

You already did

Your incredibly stupid chlice

If you loved me just as I am you wouldn't of made what I say a problem

Were never gonna find something this good again

It's really not that good

I don't even talk to people anymore because I feel embarrassed

The fights are so embarrassing and so frequent

Really not that good? So, you been lying to me

You embarrassed by me?

You think this is good then?

This your idea of a good rs?

So tell me what is good about fighting every singlenweek

I think we are good yes f***ing fantastic. We both have a problem in fights. I accepted that dont change nothing for me.

If we were good we wouldn't be here

again

Why you dont tslk to people you embarrassed by us?

Because I shouldn't accept this

All this time you telling me bond, connection fuuuuuck 

Thats right

All this time you thought shes embarrassing me, lets just hopes she changes to perfect omg!

And yet you still feel the need to talk down to me and start fights for NO reason

Im crying thats insanely sad how does one get over that

Changes to NORMAL

It's impossible not to upset you

It was all so different than you portrsyed and I thought

Ive been blind but I believdd you, I just believed you

You shouldnt accept this so you keep it from your friends

You even said yourself you were f***ing embarrassed

Well a lot gets clear now

Yes so its a rs it happens if theres a bond and connection you work it out omg you even said you loved me more after that

Yes it's embarrassing to be with a 51 year-old who acts like a teenager in fights

Lies lies lies

Yes because you reflected on it!

Omg

But remember

When we first started talking

I asked you

No it doesn't happen!

I shouldn't have to explain to you how it's perfectly okay to go out with a friend

Please alwsys be honesr wity me as Im vulnerable as f*** with love

That shouldn't be happening

I have been honest

Well its becoming clear to me how you feel about me and how you wanted to end it months ago

I never said I wanted to end it months ago I said it's the last straw over the last months of shitn

I wish you didnt book, make promises, kept saying you loved me even morw

You love to play a victim

Months of s***, well thanks

And guilt trip

You like the drama?

You must enjoy it somehow

I really thought we had best connection ever and we was learning and growing together instead you felt embarrassed

Who wouldn't???

No Im not enjoying its the worst monent of my life

Do you know like what whatever you win

I'm going to sleep

You keep throwing punches, wanna leave me as inse ure and heartbroken as possible

I believed you

No I asked for some time to collect my thoughts andni told you I love you so f*** off with the crap

I trusted and loved you with all my heart

Omg

You're 51!

When are you gonna act it

There's no talking to you

Here, again you keep treating me so disrespectful

No seriously

When are you gonna start acting mature

Its insane I believed you

Because I can't deal with this

Why don't you go and calm down

You leaving me in a mess I loved you so much its insane I opened up for you and been lied to for months

 

 

This is how it escalated the other week were we nearly broke up, cut it in half I ended up saying let's not break up and have space. She uses so much emotional blackmail like saying if I am breaking up over it then it meant it was meaningless (more like it's meaningless because she wouldn't of spoken to me like that if it meant something). 

Oh yeah I think it's more like she has a high opinion of herself than a low one of me.

 

[Warmer]

Wow I just offered her a ladder out of her hole and she threw it in my face. 

Need to talk to you

Ok

5 min

Ok

First

Do you need to talk to me about anything?

I cant talk to you, or at least not atm

We are at a stalemate so you might as well talk to me now

I can't

Are you interested in solving this?

What does that mean

Of course

Say what you need to say I am listening

I can't I really can't

OK so it's you who can't talk?

I can talk but not to you atm as your full of spite and nothing I can do is right

I wouldn't of come online if I were full of spite

And yesterday?

As soon as I hit a spot its bam again and all I can do is let you go through it and have patience. Im not gonna fight

I'm not here to fight

It takes 2 to fight also

Why dont you say what you want to say. As yesterday, you come on and ask me to talk to you first

I'm offering you a ladder out of

I'm trying to salvage our rs

I have had to build a wall to protect myself against your words and attacks, I cant just switch back when you say Talk

Well I have to talk to you when you're treating me with contempt

Talk when you're ready then

Ok

Bye till then then

Ugh why do I even bother, she is lucky I'm not breaking up I'm trying to salvage the rs for her even though she doesn't deserve it and she is still being difficult.

[Wiseman2]

38 minutes ago, Warmer said:

I can talk but not to you atm as your full of spite and nothing I can do is right

She's got a good point. Your dialogue sounds you're cross-examining a witness.

She should have terminated the call and let you cool off, not try to respond.

 What is it you wish to accomplish with this passive aggressive dramatic approach? Sounds like a bad parent chiding a child.

 Why not just end the torture and end it?

Edited May 30, 2021 by Wiseman2

[introverted1]

OP, anytime you need to post 1,000 lines of your text exchange on an anonymous message board, that already tells the tale of a relationship in deep trouble.

If you want to talk to out, then do so face-to-face, or, if distance precludes, on a video call.  Not text. 

Or just end it.

 

[Warmer]

10 minutes ago, Wiseman2 said:

She's got a good point. Your dialogue sounds you're cross-examining a witness.

She should have terminated the call and let you cool off, not try to respond.

 What is it you wish to accomplish with this passive aggressive dramatic approach? Sounds like a bad parent chiding a child.

 Why not just end the torture and end it?

Are you interested in solving this?

I'm here to talk not fight.

Do you need to talk to me about anything?

That's notnpassive aggressive I came on to talk to let her say her peace and ask for a clean slate instead of a break up.

 

She brought it all to this, if she doesn't want it like this she shouldn't treat me the way shebdid in the first place. 

 

 

 

[Warmer]

2 minutes ago, introverted1 said:

OP, anytime you need to post 1,000 lines of your text exchange on an anonymous message board, that already tells the tale of a relationship in deep trouble.

If you want to talk to out, then do so face-to-face, or, if distance precludes, on a video call.  Not text. 

Or just end it.

 

Yeah well at least I'm trying to do something to salvage it.

 

I've said to her the way that I see it is she can either acknlowdge the problem she caused between us or if that is too much to ask for we call it a day.

[introverted1]

1 minute ago, Warmer said:

Yeah well at least I'm trying to do something to salvage it.

 

I've said to her the way that I see it is she can either acknlowdge the problem she caused between us or if that is too much to ask for we call it a day.

If that text exchange is the "proof" of what you are doing to salvage it, then you are not helping your cause.

Conversations like this need to happen in person. Preferably when you are both calm and not feeling the need to wind each other up.

[Warmer]

2 minutes ago, introverted1 said:

If that text exchange is the "proof" of what you are doing to salvage it, then you are not helping your cause.

Conversations like this need to happen in person. Preferably when you are both calm and not feeling the need to wind each other up.

I'm not feeling the need to wind her up, my intention were to solve this. 

I asked her to talk to me but she decided to play victim and make out like she is the one who got hurt. Thing is I was willing to let her speak her mind and I would of put anything right but she is basically put a wall up to the problem as she doesn't want to talk about it. She is waiting for me to just say let's drop it as that's what she wants but if I do that she will say I wasted her time dragging it out etc. She will get away with it and do it again in future. 

[Wiseman2]

39 minutes ago, Warmer said:

Are you interested in solving this?

I'm here to talk not fight.

Do you need to talk to me about anything?

Is this more text from your conversation or a response?