The beautiful daughter

[HadMeOverABarrel]

On 2/16/2021 at 3:17 PM, Jimmy4 said:

No the boss is a very good person, I liked him from my first day at the company. He is not the type of a serious man who wants his staff to afraid of him. He is very funny, kind, but the most important he want us consider him us a friend and that's something that helped me to do my job with more willingness and made me feel that I work in a very comfortable inveronment (my job isn't easy and the job environment plays very important role). I think he is the perfect boss and the right man for this job. He promised that I'll become something like "co-boss" if I continue going so well (he is very pleased from my good job), and I'm confident too. The last time I worked as a model was before 3 years I suppose, that means that fashion modeling people believe I'm attractive, that's also very important. But really man? do you believe that I'm airhead because I want young girlfriends for fun? many guys like that, and many girls too, others are in the opposide side, no problem. But you can't call me like that, and that I have poor judgment. That's prejudice!!!

 

So your plan to repay his kindness is to use his young daughter as your sex toy? Hmmm...

Why don't you just buy yourself a sex doll. They are highly customizable so you can make it as young and naive and 'fun' as you want. Plus a sex doll has the added bonus of never aging. 

More benefits to this idea include your sex doll will be everything you want her to be with no opinions of her own. She will be available to you to use at your disposal, won't put up any arguments, and won't create a risk you'd lose your job. Also, a benefit to the female community is that fewer young women will be used due to naiveté.

There are even documentaries about men and their sex dolls so you can try before you buy into the concept. Look into it. It might be exactly the perfect solution. 

Edited February 18, 2021 by HadMeOverABarrel
Added fun

[Jimmy4]

14 minutes ago, HadMeOverABarrel said:

So your plan to repay his kindness is to use his young daughter as your sex toy? Hmmm...

Why don't you just buy yourself a sex doll. They are highly customizable so you can make it as young and naive and 'fun' as you want. Plus a sex doll has the added bonus of never aging. 

More benefits to this idea include your sex doll will be everything you want her to be with no opinions of her own. She will be available to you to use at your disposal, won't put up any arguments, and won't create a risk you'd lose your job. Also, a benefit to the female community is that fewer young women will be used due to naiveté.

There are even documentaries about men and their sex dolls so you can try before you buy into the concept. Look into it. It might be exactly the perfect solution. 

hahaha you must be kidding, I'm not so foolish and crazy. And that's the worst solution I've ever heard,  with this in mind I can do it with a teddy bear or my guitar, they are inanimate things like sex dolls. But don't worry, I thought about it more seriously and I won't do anything with her, I'll use a date app, and after quarantine I'll go to the famous bars where some lonely pretty girls have for hangout.

[HadMeOverABarrel]

21 minutes ago, Jimmy4 said:

where some lonely pretty girls have for hangout.

Yeah, I was kidding...MOSTLY.

The sex dolls sell in the thousands to tens of thousands for a reason. But, if you feel you could derive the same amount of pleasure from a teddy bear , perhaps you're more practical than I first surmised.

Seriously though, what is with your need to be exploitive? Now your plan is to target "lonely pretty girls." What emptiness is within you that you seek power by exploiting others weaknesses (i.e. young, lonely, etc.). Have you ever considered this question seriously?

[peach302]

31 minutes ago, Jimmy4 said:

hahaha you must be kidding, I'm not so foolish and crazy. And that's the worst solution I've ever heard,  with this in mind I can do it with a teddy bear or my guitar, they are inanimate things like sex dolls. But don't worry, I thought about it more seriously and I won't do anything with her, I'll use a date app, and after quarantine I'll go to the famous bars where some lonely pretty girls have for hangout.

Lonely pretty girls?

Why do you sound like  a predator

[Datergirl]

On 2/16/2021 at 10:09 AM, Jimmy4 said:

Sexy young girls is the best way for a man like me to have fun.

Please stop saying young girls...its disturbing 

[Jimmy4]

6 hours ago, HadMeOverABarrel said:

Yeah, I was kidding...MOSTLY.

The sex dolls sell in the thousands to tens of thousands for a reason. But, if you feel you could derive the same amount of pleasure from a teddy bear , perhaps you're more practical than I first surmised.

Seriously though, what is with your need to be exploitive? Now your plan is to target "lonely pretty girls." What emptiness is within you that you seek power by exploiting others weaknesses (i.e. young, lonely, etc.). Have you ever considered this question seriously?

hahaha, no emptiness my dear friend, and I reffered to a teddy bear as an example. Ι think you don't have to be so impolite to me. I wrote my background about my relationships with girls in a previous message, if you want, read it. I don't exploit anyone, I just want to have 1-2 short relationships until early 50s with younger women. Tell me what sounds to you so weird? I don't want family, but I want to keep on being a womanizer for about the next 15 years. This isn't considered as exploitation, that's my character, if you don't like to do the same, don't do it. And why do you believe is bad to try to flirt with a girl(or girls you never know) at a bar? that's a way that many people follow (boys and girls) to start a relationship. And of course a short relationship means that I'll care for her and I'll protect and provide her everything she wants(I'm not thinking only about sex, that would be strange). I hope to read this message and say sorry about what you said about me before.

Edited February 18, 2021 by Jimmy4

[Jimmy4]

6 hours ago, HadMeOverABarrel said:

Yeah, I was kidding...MOSTLY.

The sex dolls sell in the thousands to tens of thousands for a reason. But, if you feel you could derive the same amount of pleasure from a teddy bear , perhaps you're more practical than I first surmised.

Seriously though, what is with your need to be exploitive? Now your plan is to target "lonely pretty girls." What emptiness is within you that you seek power by exploiting others weaknesses (i.e. young, lonely, etc.). Have you ever considered this question seriously?

And something else, because you said I'm an empty person. When I was younger I knew a girl (not girlfriend but she is a really good friend of mine). She wanted to commit suicide, her parents went her to many psychologists, NO ONE has made her to feel better. Then I thought that I was her only hope, and I was trying to be in touch with her all the time. She explained to me all her problems and I said her what I believed and what she sould do to overcome them. The result that after 2 months, she didn't just commited suicide, but he've become one of the most happy people I know. And when we met again she just hugged me and said that I safed her life and she won't never forget everything I did for her. I didn't said this story to tell "look I saved someone's life, I'm incredible" no I'm not egoist, I said that to tell you that it isn't so easy to characterize someone "empty" if you don't know him personally.

[dramafreezone]

I see nothing but reasons not to pursue this.  She hasn't given you any signals that she even likes you as far as we know.  She's much younger.  She's the boss's daughter.  What's the upside, she's pretty?  There's lot of pretty women out there.

[HadMeOverABarrel]

29 minutes ago, Jimmy4 said:

Ι think you don't have to be so impolite to me.

I am matching my tone with yours. However, it's my opinion you have been tone deaf to many of the replies you've received on your thread. 

 

31 minutes ago, Jimmy4 said:

I don't exploit anyone, I just want to have 1-2 short relationships until early 50s with younger women. Tell me what sounds to you so weird?

Weird is your word, not mine. My word was exploitive and I believe you know full well that exploitation is at the heart of your motives with the topic at hand. 

Do you truly believe the young girls desire to be "womanized?" Objectified? Led to believe they are more to you than what is in between their legs (when really that is only what you're after)? Do you think that you're influence on them could have long-lasting and far-reaching negative psychological effects on them? Do you even care? What exactly are you offering in exchange for young fun and frills? Anything? Or do you believe it's owed to you simply for showing up to take it?

37 minutes ago, Jimmy4 said:

And why do you believe is bad to try to flirt with a girl

Incorrect. Not what I said. If you are truly interpreting this meaning, you have missed the boat. 

To be very honest, I don't feel I owe an apology to you for speaking the truth. The truth is that you have an exaggerated sense regarding what young women experience in their interactions with you. I can speak as an expert in that regard based on my own experiences of men like you in my 20's and beyond...believe me, and many others who have posted here, women of any age are not excited about your proposition. Sorry that may not be what you hope to hear. I can only hope it could help you to be a kinder, more considerate soul in your dating life, but I am not super optimistic based on what I've read thus far. 

[HadMeOverABarrel]

34 minutes ago, Jimmy4 said:

And something else, because you said I'm an empty person. When I was younger I knew a girl (not girlfriend but she is a really good friend of mine). She wanted to commit suicide, her parents went her to many psychologists, NO ONE has made her to feel better. Then I thought that I was her only hope, and I was trying to be in touch with her all the time. She explained to me all her problems and I said her what I believed and what she sould do to overcome them. The result that after 2 months, she didn't just commited suicide, but he've become one of the most happy people I know. And when we met again she just hugged me and said that I safed her life and she won't never forget everything I did for her. I didn't said this story to tell "look I saved someone's life, I'm incredible" no I'm not egoist, I said that to tell you that it isn't so easy to characterize someone "empty" if you don't know him personally.

What I'm saying is what I'm seeing: a man who is excited by having the upper hand, the more powerful position, in his relations with women. So perhaps ask yourself...why do you crave this power over others? Often people who do this have a (subconscious) feeling of powerless within themselves. Thus they attempt to control, exert influence over, others to counteract it. 

Emptiness in this context refers to your need to exert yourself over those you perceive to be desired (pretty, youthful) but less superior (lonely, young, inexperienced, naïve, etc) to yourself. So, then, why do you suppose you are driven for these experiences? Aren't you really being driven by your inner impulses? Out of control because your impulses are controlling you? What do you think the sources of these impulses are??

Edited February 18, 2021 by HadMeOverABarrel
Those to these

[Jimmy4]

10 hours ago, HadMeOverABarrel said:

What I'm saying is what I'm seeing: a man who is excited by having the upper hand, the more powerful position, in his relations with women. So perhaps ask yourself...why do you crave this power over others? Often people who do this have a (subconscious) feeling of powerless within themselves. Thus they attempt to control, exert influence over, others to counteract it. 

Emptiness in this context refers to your need to exert yourself over those you perceive to be desired (pretty, youthful) but less superior (lonely, young, inexperienced, naïve, etc) to yourself. So, then, why do you suppose you are driven for these experiences? Aren't you really being driven by your inner impulses? Out of control because your impulses are controlling you? What do you think the sources of these impulses are??

I don't think there's a certain impulse for that, that was my only life goals from highschool, to have a good job and a good quality of life, some good "bros" with whom I'll have fun with and I'll know that I can trust them, and party time with pretty girls. I've accomplished all my goals, but I now with the pandemic it's been a long time from the last time I did it. And I feel like something is missing from me, when I see a girl I like I always imagine me with her in the bed, I don't why, the truth is that I'm dipolar, I've helped many people(like the story I told you before) I've damaged many people(emotionally) , my mind is strange, my life is strange. But I don't want to use anyone, I told you before that even if my relationship won't last for a long time, I'll offer her everything she'll need, and she doesn't need to be 20 or 25, 26-29 is also a very good age for me. I'm half British and as we all know British people drink and party too much(especially in young ages), so maybe I'm one of one them. My parents in Greece used to try to phone me almost every day, and the most times I didn't answer because I was tired from work and I said to myself "how many times I told them to call me only at weekends". I turned 33 and I didn't came to Athens at least one time to visit all those years in London, one day my mother called me, when I picked up the phone I asked her what's going on, she was crying, at the end she said that my father passed away on Wednesday, it was Saturday, when I asked her why she didn't call me the day it happened, she just told me "I'm sorry son, I didn't want to annoy you during your working days, your father was sick for a long time, I hope you to come to Athens when you find time, I hope to be happy in London, I love you", my parents were very protective, they were always trying to protect me from everything even when nothing bad could happen, they are the best people I know, they just wanted to hear that I'm fine, nothing more, for my father I was his only child, I also have a brother from my mother's first wedding, I've learned a lot from him, but I never told him how much I love him. Before the pandemic my mother came to stay with me, I don't know how to tell her sorry about all these. So what's your suggestion?

Edited February 19, 2021 by Jimmy4

[ExpatInItaly]

19 hours ago, Jimmy4 said:

after quarantine I'll go to the famous bars where some lonely pretty girls have for hangout.

Do you feel you'll strike out with women who are not lonely or a lot younger, or something? 

[Fletch Lives]

This sounds like fiction. 

[Jimmy4]

10 minutes ago, Fletch Lives said:

This sounds like fiction. 

yes I know, but it's true! My life is like movie...

[HadMeOverABarrel]

9 hours ago, Jimmy4 said:

I don't think there's a certain impulse for that, that was my only life goals from highschool, to have a good job and a good quality of life, some good "bros" with whom I'll have fun with and I'll know that I can trust them, and party time with pretty girls. I've accomplished all my goals, but I now with the pandemic it's been a long time from the last time I did it. And I feel like something is missing from me, when I see a girl I like I always imagine me with her in the bed, I don't why, the truth is that I'm dipolar, I've helped many people(like the story I told you before) I've damaged many people(emotionally) , my mind is strange, my life is strange. But I don't want to use anyone, I told you before that even if my relationship won't last for a long time, I'll offer her everything she'll need, and she doesn't need to be 20 or 25, 26-29 is also a very good age for me. I'm half British and as we all know British people drink and party too much(especially in young ages), so maybe I'm one of one them. My parents in Greece used to try to phone me almost every day, and the most times I didn't answer because I was tired from work and I said to myself "how many times I told them to call me only at weekends". I turned 33 and I didn't came to Athens at least one time to visit all those years in London, one day my mother called me, when I picked up the phone I asked her what's going on, she was crying, at the end she said that my father passed away on Wednesday, it was Saturday, when I asked her why she didn't call me the day it happened, she just told me "I'm sorry son, I didn't want to annoy you during your working days, your father was sick for a long time, I hope you to come to Athens when you find time, I hope to be happy in London, I love you", my parents were very protective, they were always trying to protect me from everything even when nothing bad could happen, they are the best people I know, they just wanted to hear that I'm fine, nothing more, for my father I was his only child, I also have a brother from my mother's first wedding, I've learned a lot from him, but I never told him how much I love him. Before the pandemic my mother came to stay with me, I don't know how to tell her sorry about all these. So what's your suggestion?

"And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man in the moon
'When you coming home, son?' 'I don't know when
But we'll get together then, dad
You know we'll have a good time then'" --Harry Chapin

I'll write more later, but to answer your question, "So what's your suggestion?" my thoughts are as follows:

We get one chance in this life to leave this world better or worse off for our existence in it. It's up to each of us to decide which of those to choose. When we depart this earth, will it be better off for our existence in it, or worse?

You say you've emotionally damaged people, and it seems you have some regrets for how you've managed your relationship with your parents. You also said you accomplished many of your personal goals. Why not, then, turn your attention to a more altruistic existence wherein you look for small opportunities to improve another's life every day? Small, kind gestures go a long way. They also will overcome feelings of "something is missing in me." I surmise what's missing is genuine connection with other human beings. It seems you've been so focused on self-gratification for so long that you have missed out on what are truly the richest experiences of life, which come through deeper connection. You can cultivate deeper connections: in your spiritual life through regular practice (so many tools available); with yourself through self-examination and self-awareness including your success at connecting more deeply with others; and connection with others through selfless acts of kindness and consistent consideration for others' well being. 

I think it's time you get focused on who you really are, what contributions you want to make to this world, and what your legacy will be.  Then, reflect on how you may have harmed others and make amends. I understand that the 12 step program provides good guidance at succeeding with making amends. Then, be sure to communicate gratitude to those who have helped you along the way. Be sure to let them know how much you appreciate their efforts and their love. Let them know you love them back.

[LivingWaterPlease]

9 hours ago, Jimmy4 said:

My parents in Greece used to try to phone me almost every day, and the most times I didn't answer because I was tired from work and I said to myself "how many times I told them to call me only at weekends". I turned 33 and I didn't came to Athens at least one time to visit all those years in London, one day my mother called me, when I picked up the phone I asked her what's going on, she was crying, at the end she said that my father passed away on Wednesday, it was Saturday, when I asked her why she didn't call me the day it happened, she just told me "I'm sorry son, I didn't want to annoy you during your working days, your father was sick for a long time, I hope you to come to Athens when you find time, I hope to be happy in London, I love you", my parents were very protective, they were always trying to protect me from everything even when nothing bad could happen, they are the best people I know, they just wanted to hear that I'm fine, nothing more, for my father I was his only child, I also have a brother from my mother's first wedding, I've learned a lot from him, but I never told him how much I love him. Before the pandemic my mother came to stay with me, I don't know how to tell her sorry about all these. So what's your suggestion?

My suggestion is that you go home and spend some time getting to know your mother and consoling her. You were your father's only son and he died without you being there or even knowing he was dying because you had told your parents not to call during the weekdays? This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on LS.

You can't respect yourself if you treat people, especially your parents the way you've described treating them in your post. You treat everyone like something you stepped in on the street, for your own amusement. These young women you want to use are a temporary escape, like a drug, to help you escape from who you know yourself to be.

Jimmy, you need help. There is help for you. But, first you have to realize your condition.

 

[Jimmy4]

1 hour ago, HadMeOverABarrel said:

"And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man in the moon
'When you coming home, son?' 'I don't know when
But we'll get together then, dad
You know we'll have a good time then'" --Harry Chapin

I'll write more later, but to answer your question, "So what's your suggestion?" my thoughts are as follows:

We get one chance in this life to leave this world better or worse off for our existence in it. It's up to each of us to decide which of those to choose. When we depart this earth, will it be better off for our existence in it, or worse?

You say you've emotionally damaged people, and it seems you have some regrets for how you've managed your relationship with your parents. You also said you accomplished many of your personal goals. Why not, then, turn your attention to a more altruistic existence wherein you look for small opportunities to improve another's life every day? Small, kind gestures go a long way. They also will overcome feelings of "something is missing in me." I surmise what's missing is genuine connection with other human beings. It seems you've been so focused on self-gratification for so long that you have missed out on what are truly the richest experiences of life, which come through deeper connection. You can cultivate deeper connections: in your spiritual life through regular practice (so many tools available); with yourself through self-examination and self-awareness including your success at connecting more deeply with others; and connection with others through selfless acts of kindness and consistent consideration for others' well being. 

I think it's time you get focused on who you really are, what contributions you want to make to this world, and what your legacy will be.  Then, reflect on how you may have harmed others and make amends. I understand that the 12 step program provides good guidance at succeeding with making amends. Then, be sure to communicate gratitude to those who have helped you along the way. Be sure to let them know how much you appreciate their efforts and their love. Let them know you love them back.

Are you a psychologist? or you just want to follow the Christian way of life? and I'm talking seriously now. I read the Bible and I really believe that God exists. And I want to thank you for your time, I really appreciate that. I'll follow your's and God's advices, I know that I won't dissapoint anyone, and of course I won't dissapoint myself, because I believe in myself, and I have the faith and the power to change the things, I have achieved my career goals, now I want to achieve my spiritual goals, and Christianity is love, so I'll give love. That's the point of life, to give love and take love. And for the relationship I'll have in the future, I'll be more careful and more focused on the real meaning of a relationship. Life is a journey, all of us make mistakes, but God is waiting for us to regret and show him what we worth. Thank you!!!

[Jimmy4]

1 hour ago, LivingWaterPlease said:

My suggestion is that you go home and spend some time getting to know your mother and consoling her. You were your father's only son and he died without you being there or even knowing he was dying because you had told your parents not to call during the weekdays? This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on LS.

You can't respect yourself if you treat people, especially your parents the way you've described treating them in your post. You treat everyone like something you stepped in on the street, for your own amusement. These young women you want to use are a temporary escape, like a drug, to help you escape from who you know yourself to be.

Jimmy, you need help. There is help for you. But, first you have to realize your condition.

 

I suppose that all of us I need help sometimes!!!all have problems but with the people we love we can always overcome them. I realise my mistakes, and I'm ready to do a new start in my social life.

[HadMeOverABarrel]

1 hour ago, Jimmy4 said:

Are you a psychologist?

No, just a fellow traveler on the journey of life (who has had my fair share of bumps and bruises along the way). Good luck in enjoying a more connected, fulfilling life!

[Trail Blazer]

12 hours ago, Fletch Lives said:

This sounds like fiction. 

Truth can be stranger than fiction. 

Some of my life experiences, one just couldn't make them up!  And, I've heard of a lot crazier $h!t happening to other people than anything I've experienced!

Sure, some people might come on here and post what is seemingly like a novella.  Why?  Boredom, perhaps?  In the case of the OP, I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[LivingWaterPlease]

6 hours ago, Jimmy4 said:

I read the Bible and I really believe that God exists. And I want to thank you for your time, I really appreciate that. I'll follow your's and God's advices...Christianity is love, so I'll give love. That's the point of life, to give love and take love. And for the relationship I'll have in the future, I'll be more careful and more focused on the real meaning of a relationship. Life is a journey, all of us make mistakes, but God is waiting for us to regret and show him what we worth. Thank you!!!

Where are you reading in the Bible, Jimmy? God does love you and wants you to show love for others, which begins with respecting them. I'm thankful that you're thinking the thoughts you shared above.

6 hours ago, Jimmy4 said:

I suppose that all of us I need help sometimes!!!all have problems but with the people we love we can always overcome them. I realise my mistakes, and I'm ready to do a new start in my social life.

So true that we all do need help! I know I do, for sure! When we have a relationship with Jesus Christ that is spoken of in the Bible (it's wonderful that you read it!) He leads us into a new life of respect, love and service to others!

These are good posts to read, from you, Jimmy! Please begin your new life with calling your mother and planning a visit with her soon!

[SumGuy]

On 2/15/2021 at 4:22 PM, Jimmy4 said:

Don't make me sad I want to have relationships with girls that are 20-25(30 maximum). This young beauty is what attracts me most, you can't find it in a woman who is around in my age. I remind you that I don't want to have family in the future, when I was younger I used to be a "play boy" (parties and sex with 2-3 college girls at the shame time, good old times). Also I was very beautiful back then, I worked as a fashion model for a while. So I think that the girl will find me very attractive too, the famous actor Jason Statham (I'm a big fan of him) has a wife 21 years younger, that is more difficult than just having a simple relationship for a while. I don't want boring and mature (and possibly not attractive) 35 years old women. I want sexy, funny and "immature" young girls that want to "party" with their lifes.

Well now it makes sense.   You should just tell her or your boss that.   I'm sure they will understand and things will progress for you.  

[SumGuy]

On 2/16/2021 at 3:17 PM, Jimmy4 said:

.... But you can't call me like that, and that I have poor judgment. That's prejudice!!!

It's not prejudice, it's common sense based on the actions you want to take and how you describe taking them.

Dating a co-worker is generally considered bad judgment, dating the boss's daughter even worse, and unless you are up front with her this is just for "fun and sex" bad judgment to hide that intent.  It's the simple aphorism don't sh*t where you live.  It all about most relationships don't last (and you track record and desires seem to indicate that) so when it ends, if it doesn't end good things become awkward, if it end bad then it can get really bad.  What if you break her heart or she feels you betrayed or misled her?  That bespeaks to your character, all it takes is one word in her father's ear and you dreams of "co-boss" go out the window.   

Or it may be other reasons for why you do not seem to grasp the above or give it credence.   

[SumGuy]

On 2/18/2021 at 4:20 PM, Jimmy4 said:

...I want to keep on being a womanizer for about the next 15 years. This isn't considered as exploitation, that's my character,....

I think you don't understand the definition of womanizer or the connotations and societal view of womanizers where you live.  By it's very definition and understanding a person who is a womanizer is consider exploitative, to most...or more importantly to most women.   Maybe in Greece when you were there a womanizer was not considered exploitive, pretty sure it is in the UK.

I could well be wrong, if you are correct then is should be no problem to let her and your boss know you are a womanizer, or any woman you meet for that matter.

 

[basil67]

SumGuy is right.  Guys who are womanizers use women for their own selfish reasons, with no concern for the well being of the woman.   Earlier you were talking about God and being a good person.  A good man is not a womanizer.   A good man dates a woman, one woman, and treats her with love and respect.