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Hey, This might be the craziest thing ever, but... 

I love dating and giving girls the best time of their lives. I do fall for them and I do express my attraction(which might be causing the problem) 

If girls are interested in knowing what's my purpose for dating - I am always honest and upfront. I say that I am not looking for a relationship or getting married just yet, but later down the line - I'd like to have family and kids, but I'm just too busy with all what's going on in my life. I have a businesses, multiple hobbies and passions as well as male friends. 

I only date one girl at a time. I'm super honest, and not trying to hide anything or just get sex out of them. My dick is soft if we don't have a deep connection. And I treat all girls with massive respect and I do all the best I can to give them amazing experience every single time. And they fall for me so fast...

Once we have the connection - girls get really attached, and always wants to progress further, but I don't, as that's not my priority in life at this time. However I can't stop dating, because my life feels empty if I don't have a connection with women. 

The worst thing is, that they always get hurt.. They don't want to just date. They want more - always... But I'm giving all I can, but relationship is something I just can't commit at the moment, and I'm not promising that I will later down the line either. 

I'm tired of looking for a new, smart, spiritual, self-developed, intelligent girl every 1-3 months (yes, that's how fast it ends because they fall for me to fast and ask for more.)

I'm not even the one saying that I don't want this anymore. I enjoy my time with them and they do too, but because of the situation above - they don't want to continue if I'm not ready to commit. 

I'm only 24 and I usually date older women 25-30. Maybe that's the issue too. 

I am super confused, that I always give my best, I invest in these girls so much energy and time, not money... But they always get hurt and suffer. Every single time it ends with tears and grief from their side.

I am tired of causing the pain. 

Should I just stop dating and invest in my priorities and feel unfullfilled? 

Should I just stop paying attention that I break every girls heart?

I am super confused. How can this be that I have all the best intentions in the world, give all I can, but they are heartbroken.

And I don't want just casual relationships where we're just having sex. I like the attraction and the "love" we share.

I think the issues are that I get attached too and I show it. They are too old for me, but I don't like girls younger than me. I don't like casual sex, I want more, but not too much. I want them to have their own life too, but they just want to be in my life too much.

If I am acting like an idiot - let me know. I know I am soooo contradictory, but that's what I want and I just can't find the happy medium on how not to cause grief and tiers.

I told you this is crazy, but how do I go about dating now?

HELP ME.

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I'm sorry you're soooooo successful in dating. *just kidding*.  You are only 24 and sowing your wild oates.  If you are honest with these girls up front then it isn't your fault that they find you desirable enough to want more.  You will find that one special girl sooner or later who you will want to commit to.

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Simple just be up front, you are just looking to just date, have a good time and enjoy it with someone NSA.

Treating a girl like a queen is leading them on and giving them the wrong impression.

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2 hours ago, klxvs said:

Hey, This might be the craziest thing ever, but... 

I love dating and giving girls the best time of their lives. I do fall for them and I do express my attraction(which might be causing the problem) 

If girls are interested in knowing what's my purpose for dating - I am always honest and upfront. I say that I am not looking for a relationship or getting married just yet, but later down the line - I'd like to have family and kids, but I'm just too busy with all what's going on in my life. I have a businesses, multiple hobbies and passions as well as male friends. 

I only date one girl at a time. I'm super honest, and not trying to hide anything or just get sex out of them. My dick is soft if we don't have a deep connection. And I treat all girls with massive respect and I do all the best I can to give them amazing experience every single time. And they fall for me so fast...

Once we have the connection - girls get really attached, and always wants to progress further, but I don't, as that's not my priority in life at this time. However I can't stop dating, because my life feels empty if I don't have a connection with women. 

The worst thing is, that they always get hurt.. They don't want to just date. They want more - always... But I'm giving all I can, but relationship is something I just can't commit at the moment, and I'm not promising that I will later down the line either. 

I'm tired of looking for a new, smart, spiritual, self-developed, intelligent girl every 1-3 months (yes, that's how fast it ends because they fall for me to fast and ask for more.)

I'm not even the one saying that I don't want this anymore. I enjoy my time with them and they do too, but because of the situation above - they don't want to continue if I'm not ready to commit. 

I'm only 24 and I usually date older women 25-30. Maybe that's the issue too. 

I am super confused, that I always give my best, I invest in these girls so much energy and time, not money... But they always get hurt and suffer. Every single time it ends with tears and grief from their side.

I am tired of causing the pain. 

Should I just stop dating and invest in my priorities and feel unfullfilled? 

Should I just stop paying attention that I break every girls heart?

I am super confused. How can this be that I have all the best intentions in the world, give all I can, but they are heartbroken.

And I don't want just casual relationships where we're just having sex. I like the attraction and the "love" we share.

I think the issues are that I get attached too and I show it. They are too old for me, but I don't like girls younger than me. I don't like casual sex, I want more, but not too much. I want them to have their own life too, but they just want to be in my life too much.

If I am acting like an idiot - let me know. I know I am soooo contradictory, but that's what I want and I just can't find the happy medium on how not to cause grief and tiers.

I told you this is crazy, but how do I go about dating now?

HELP ME.

If you date because you feel empty but do not want to progress past a certain point, you should look at yourself if you are emotionally unavailable for some reason.

The being busy is just an excuse to avoid deeper intimacy. Your emptiness comes from there.

Good for you for being honest with them but I think you should check with yourself the root of dating to feel empty and do not want to progress further at the same time.

There is something happening inside you and you’ll be going around in circles if you do not address it.

And you might also be losing the chance of having an amazing deep and happy relationship with an amazing woman. 

 

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2 hours ago, klxvs said:

I am always honest and upfront. I say that I am not looking for a relationship or getting married just yet, but later down the line - I'd like to have family and kids

Try not to string them along like this. "But".... is where you are making false promises.  Be more upfront that it means casual dating.

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You want all the benefits with none of the responsibility. Life doesn't work that way.

I believe that the energy you put out there comes back to you tenfold. So the more you keep using and hurting these women, the more bad will you're building up for yourself. 

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15 minutes ago, MissPinkEyes said:

If you date because you feel empty but do not want to progress past a certain point, you should look at yourself if you are emotionally unavailable for some reason.

The being busy is just an excuse to avoid deeper intimacy. Your emptiness comes from there.

Good for you for being honest with them but I think you should check with yourself the root of dating to feel empty and do not want to progress further at the same time.

There is something happening inside you and you’ll be going around in circles if you do not address it.

And you might also be losing the chance of having an amazing deep and happy relationship with an amazing woman. 

 

I agree, something deeper is happening here. Everything you describe that you want with these women (monogamy, emotional intimacy, attraction, "love", not having to find someone new every few months, etc.) sounds like a relationship. There are plenty of people in relationships who continue to pursue their hobbies, friendships, careers, etc. and also who have no plans of getting married in the near future. Being in a relationship with someone is not a promise you'll be with them forever, and you can be in a relationship and still take it day by day and live in the moment. 

What is it about committing or labelling what you want with these women that scares you so much? Are you afraid of the responsibilities that may come with a relationship? Are you afraid of committing to one person and think you will get bored and want to keep seeing other people? Are you afraid of getting hurt? Are you afraid of committing, then changing your mind later on and hurting someone else? I think maybe it might partially be that last one because you sound like you really, really don't want to hurt anyone and try to be careful not to do so, but unfortunately it's sometimes just part of life.

If you're more specific about exactly why you don't want a relationship, that might help you clarify for yourself and others what's going on in your head and how to solve it.

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2 hours ago, klxvs said:

 I am always honest and upfront. I say that I am not looking for a relationship or getting married just yet, but later down the line - I'd like to have family and kids, 

Your words aren't honest - they are very misleading.  Surely you know that when a person asks what you're looking for, they are wanting to know about the potential if things work well.   Your words imply that you'll settle down with the right woman.  Try changing it to "I'm not looking for a relationship, I'm just here for fun" or "I'm here for a good time, not a long time"   

Be more honest and upfront about you only being a good time guy. 

 

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"Should I just stop dating and invest in my priorities and feel unfullfilled?" 

Yes, you should stop dating. If not having your casual fun would makes you feel unfullfilled then the issue is elsewhere and no amount of uncommited relationships will fill in that void. You need to do some soul searching.

Besides, it doesn't matter what you say to these women - your actions are sending the wrong signals and you can't just shake off the responsibility for their hurt feelings by claiming that you warned them in the beginning. There is a qoute that goes along the lines of "we are responsible for what we have tamed", so if you say that you're only looking for some fun but then go on and build deep emotional connections and act like a boyfriend to those women, their hurt is on you.

So if you are a decent human being, you should stop this behaviour. If you don't want to commit yet, fine, you're young, but don't mislead others just to fill in your emotional voids. 

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1 hour ago, basil67 said:

Your words aren't honest - they are very misleading.  Surely you know that when a person asks what you're looking for, they are wanting to know about the potential if things work well.   Your words imply that you'll settle down with the right woman.  Try changing it to "I'm not looking for a relationship, I'm just here for fun" or "I'm here for a good time, not a long time"   

Be more honest and upfront about you only being a good time guy. 

 

It doesn't matter what wording he uses if he acts like doesn't meant it. 

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You are being honest about no relationship but they glom on to the mixed signals -- marriage in the future & you being attracted to them.  Stop saying those things.   Dial back the compliments.  Keep things as light as possible.  Consider multi dating which will more clearly demonstrate your disinterest in anything serious.

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never mind

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I'm a guy and I agree: your words are not honest. They're deliberately misleading. You couldn't script slick wording any better than you do. 

 I am always honest and upfront. I say that I am not looking for a relationship or getting married just yet, but later down the line - I'd like to have family and kids, but I'm just too busy with all what's going on in my life.

To translate the above: What the women you are meet are hearing (because it IS suggested in your language) is I'm not rushing to get married. I'm taking my time. But yes, if things work out, I'm totally looking forward to getting married and having kids. That's how the words are heard. These are the words of someone INTERESTED in marriage and kids. 

You want to be honest, go with  I am not looking for a relationship. I'm not interested in a committed relationship. I want to date casually only. Stop dangling the future out there--it's irrelevant because you mean in the far future, and you mean you are not open to considering marriage with any women now. So omit all talk or mention of marriage and kids. 

But to tell you the truth, you might as well come out and say you're looking for a play partner or something like that. Dude, lots of women are fine with just wanting to have sex. But you have to own that and put it out there clearly. And yes, you're nice and all, but basically you just want to have sex with some good conversations thrown in. Just say that! 

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This reminds me of another thread by a female poster with the same exact issue.  She loves dating, she loves the connection but doesn't want, not ready for, a relationship or commitment and trying to figure out how to manage expectations so the men she dates don't get hurt.

I don't think you are using these women per se, your heart is in the right place and you do feel a deep connection (your words).

I think this could possibly be about fear.  What scares you about relationships and commitment?   

On the other hand, if the women you date would relax a little bit and not push so hard after only one or two months, perhaps you might get there eventually, to that place where you would be ready or more open to a relationship.

I went on sort of a rant earlier on another thread about how so many women are in such a rush.  So they push, then push some more.

I dunno, maybe not beat yourself up so much.  You need to go slower to get to that place and that's okay.  If the women get attached and then get hurt because you're not there yet, that's on them.

 

 

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  • You know what, people get attached, if I get a freaking puppy for a day and people will say but the shelter might take the puppy away tomorrow. You bet I would be super sad if they took him away, non the less if it was a guy where we connect and having fun, but he is saying it's just that, I am not worthy of being the end goal for him, I am just the waste of time he needs so he doesn't feel empty!
  • Yeah you bet I'll be sad but I'll also end it because what's the point right? Unless I am also not someone who wants a relationship and in this case, I stay single, which is my reality! I don't string people along to have fun and then tell them by when the time comes to move on! 
  • you either stay single until you are mature enough to have a real relationship or you don't
  • what you are doing right now is friends with benefits that you call dates or booty call whatever.. You are just not to upfront to say to the girl I just want my netflix and chill girl so I don't feel lonely! 
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I would suggest that you date younger women(21 to 24). They will be less interested in serious commitment and won't pressure you as much.

I agree with others, don't talk about wanting kids or anything like that or it could be misconstrued. 

NEVER MARRY ANYONE BECAUSE THEY ARE PRESSURING YOU. It's got to be something you want. Time is on your side so don't get pushed into anything.

 

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As long as you are being honest about it. As messed up as this sounds it is better than being heartbroken because you fell her and she lost interest like so many guys on here. 

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9 hours ago, klxvs said:

, I invest in these girls so much energy and time, not money... 

How exactly are you "giving them the time of thier lives"?

Hanging out watching Netflix?

 

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I have an interesting and somewhat funny story that should give you a direct sort of comparison for insight into your situation.

Years back I had to use a best friend’s phone to make a call because my phone had died. I couldn’t help but notice that the last 3 people who he had talked to on his phone were 3 women that I had previously had casual relationships with at some point in the past! Regardless of whether it was due to small city circumstances, it made for a very funny coincidence and naturally we got to talking since I was obviously able to share advice on these people.

He too was looking to just have fun dating very casually. However, he’s naturally a sweet guy, sensual, enjoys companionship, enjoyed very deep conversation, wouldn’t think twice to buy them dinner or even make them breakfast. He was always ‘honest’ though telling them how he was emotionally unavailable from the get-go. While him and I were comparing our history with how it played out with these women, there was another friend of ours who was listening in and he hilariously summed up his thoughts to him in an Arnold accent and said “these women don’t see a future with Dash!, they do with you.”

You are very similar to my best friend in this situation. Saying one thing to temper their expectations, but also still saying and doing other things to make them feel otherwise.  I was very deliberate with what I said to these women and showed that I meant what I said with how I acted with them. My friend was not, and it led to more headaches and hurt feelings.

There are plenty of women, especially at your age, who will be looking for fun conversation, sex and keeping things light if that’s what you’re after. So be direct in what you are looking for and act accordingly, because people will always respect you for being completely honest even if they don’t like how things eventually come to an end.

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 I can kind of relate to this, except I’m a chick...It sucks though because it does end sucky most of the time. That’s usually just the  way it is when you stop dating someone.  At least you’re being honest to them. I really haven’t found a solution to it but to just try you’re best to not to do much damage... try to end it when you sense them getting too into it if you’re not 

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Try maybe a ladyboy lol 

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Gosh, don't even mention marriage and kids down the track. Why would you say that, when you know for certain it's NOT going to be with her? 

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3 hours ago, smiley1 said:

Gosh, don't even mention marriage and kids down the track. Why would you say that, when you know for certain it's NOT going to be with her? 

 

5 hours ago, Shortskirtslonglashes said:

 I can kind of relate to this, except I’m a chick...It sucks though because it does end sucky most of the time. That’s usually just the  way it is when you stop dating someone.  At least you’re being honest to them. I really haven’t found a solution to it but to just try you’re best to not to do much damage... try to end it when you sense them getting too into it if you’re not 

 

6 hours ago, Dash23 said:

I have an interesting and somewhat funny story that should give you a direct sort of comparison for insight into your situation.

Years back I had to use a best friend’s phone to make a call because my phone had died. I couldn’t help but notice that the last 3 people who he had talked to on his phone were 3 women that I had previously had casual relationships with at some point in the past! Regardless of whether it was due to small city circumstances, it made for a very funny coincidence and naturally we got to talking since I was obviously able to share advice on these people.

He too was looking to just have fun dating very casually. However, he’s naturally a sweet guy, sensual, enjoys companionship, enjoyed very deep conversation, wouldn’t think twice to buy them dinner or even make them breakfast. He was always ‘honest’ though telling them how he was emotionally unavailable from the get-go. While him and I were comparing our history with how it played out with these women, there was another friend of ours who was listening in and he hilariously summed up his thoughts to him in an Arnold accent and said “these women don’t see a future with Dash!, they do with you.”

You are very similar to my best friend in this situation. Saying one thing to temper their expectations, but also still saying and doing other things to make them feel otherwise.  I was very deliberate with what I said to these women and showed that I meant what I said with how I acted with them. My friend was not, and it led to more headaches and hurt feelings.

There are plenty of women, especially at your age, who will be looking for fun conversation, sex and keeping things light if that’s what you’re after. So be direct in what you are looking for and act accordingly, because people will always respect you for being completely honest even if they don’t like how things eventually come to an end.

 

7 hours ago, Noproblem said:
  • You know what, people get attached, if I get a freaking puppy for a day and people will say but the shelter might take the puppy away tomorrow. You bet I would be super sad if they took him away, non the less if it was a guy where we connect and having fun, but he is saying it's just that, I am not worthy of being the end goal for him, I am just the waste of time he needs so he doesn't feel empty!
  • Yeah you bet I'll be sad but I'll also end it because what's the point right? Unless I am also not someone who wants a relationship and in this case, I stay single, which is my reality! I don't string people along to have fun and then tell them by when the time comes to move on! 
  • you either stay single until you are mature enough to have a real relationship or you don't
  • what you are doing right now is friends with benefits that you call dates or booty call whatever.. You are just not to upfront to say to the girl I just want my netflix and chill girl so I don't feel lonely! 

 

6 hours ago, Dash23 said:

I have an interesting and somewhat funny story that should give you a direct sort of comparison for insight into your situation.

Years back I had to use a best friend’s phone to make a call because my phone had died. I couldn’t help but notice that the last 3 people who he had talked to on his phone were 3 women that I had previously had casual relationships with at some point in the past! Regardless of whether it was due to small city circumstances, it made for a very funny coincidence and naturally we got to talking since I was obviously able to share advice on these people.

He too was looking to just have fun dating very casually. However, he’s naturally a sweet guy, sensual, enjoys companionship, enjoyed very deep conversation, wouldn’t think twice to buy them dinner or even make them breakfast. He was always ‘honest’ though telling them how he was emotionally unavailable from the get-go. While him and I were comparing our history with how it played out with these women, there was another friend of ours who was listening in and he hilariously summed up his thoughts to him in an Arnold accent and said “these women don’t see a future with Dash!, they do with you.”

You are very similar to my best friend in this situation. Saying one thing to temper their expectations, but also still saying and doing other things to make them feel otherwise.  I was very deliberate with what I said to these women and showed that I meant what I said with how I acted with them. My friend was not, and it led to more headaches and hurt feelings.

There are plenty of women, especially at your age, who will be looking for fun conversation, sex and keeping things light if that’s what you’re after. So be direct in what you are looking for and act accordingly, because people will always respect you for being completely honest even if they don’t like how things eventually come to an end.

 

9 hours ago, poppyfields said:

This reminds me of another thread by a female poster with the same exact issue.  She loves dating, she loves the connection but doesn't want, not ready for, a relationship or commitment and trying to figure out how to manage expectations so the men she dates don't get hurt.

I don't think you are using these women per se, your heart is in the right place and you do feel a deep connection (your words).

I think this could possibly be about fear.  What scares you about relationships and commitment?   

On the other hand, if the women you date would relax a little bit and not push so hard after only one or two months, perhaps you might get there eventually, to that place where you would be ready or more open to a relationship.

I went on sort of a rant earlier on another thread about how so many women are in such a rush.  So they push, then push some more.

I dunno, maybe not beat yourself up so much.  You need to go slower to get to that place and that's okay.  If the women get attached and then get hurt because you're not there yet, that's on them.

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Lotsgoingon said:

I'm a guy and I agree: your words are not honest. They're deliberately misleading. You couldn't script slick wording any better than you do. 

 I am always honest and upfront. I say that I am not looking for a relationship or getting married just yet, but later down the line - I'd like to have family and kids, but I'm just too busy with all what's going on in my life.

To translate the above: What the women you are meet are hearing (because it IS suggested in your language) is I'm not rushing to get married. I'm taking my time. But yes, if things work out, I'm totally looking forward to getting married and having kids. That's how the words are heard. These are the words of someone INTERESTED in marriage and kids. 

You want to be honest, go with  I am not looking for a relationship. I'm not interested in a committed relationship. I want to date casually only. Stop dangling the future out there--it's irrelevant because you mean in the far future, and you mean you are not open to considering marriage with any women now. So omit all talk or mention of marriage and kids. 

But to tell you the truth, you might as well come out and say you're looking for a play partner or something like that. Dude, lots of women are fine with just wanting to have sex. But you have to own that and put it out there clearly. And yes, you're nice and all, but basically you just want to have sex with some good conversations thrown in. Just say that! 

 

10 hours ago, d0nnivain said:

You are being honest about no relationship but they glom on to the mixed signals -- marriage in the future & you being attracted to them.  Stop saying those things.   Dial back the compliments.  Keep things as light as possible.  Consider multi dating which will more clearly demonstrate your disinterest in anything serious.

 

13 hours ago, basil67 said:

Your words aren't honest - they are very misleading.  Surely you know that when a person asks what you're looking for, they are wanting to know about the potential if things work well.   Your words imply that you'll settle down with the right woman.  Try changing it to "I'm not looking for a relationship, I'm just here for fun" or "I'm here for a good time, not a long time"   

Be more honest and upfront about you only being a good time guy. 

 

Heyy guys, I appreciate Y'all sooo damn much. I was kinds aware of what I'm doing wrong, but after reading your comments I do see the full picture. I can see that it is my fault, that I am being misleading with my actions. This is the exact reason why I came here and expressed myself to get a full perspective as in my mind I was being honest, but obviously I live in dillusion even with all my good intentions.

 

I am not going to stop dating that's for sure, but I will stop misleading women with my actions. 

 

I respect yall soo damn much, and lots of love ❤❤❤ 

 

You may just saved a few broken hearts and I'm grateful. 🙏

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14 hours ago, Ruby Slippers said:

You want all the benefits with none of the responsibility. Life doesn't work that way.

I believe that the energy you put out there comes back to you tenfold. So the more you keep using and hurting these women, the more bad will you're building up for yourself. 

 

11 hours ago, EternalClarity said:

"Should I just stop dating and invest in my priorities and feel unfullfilled?" 

Yes, you should stop dating. If not having your casual fun would makes you feel unfullfilled then the issue is elsewhere and no amount of uncommited relationships will fill in that void. You need to do some soul searching.

Besides, it doesn't matter what you say to these women - your actions are sending the wrong signals and you can't just shake off the responsibility for their hurt feelings by claiming that you warned them in the beginning. There is a qoute that goes along the lines of "we are responsible for what we have tamed", so if you say that you're only looking for some fun but then go on and build deep emotional connections and act like a boyfriend to those women, their hurt is on you.

So if you are a decent human being, you should stop this behaviour. If you don't want to commit yet, fine, you're young, but don't mislead others just to fill in your emotional voids. 

Whatsupp with you? 😅 Can't you see that I'm here to fix that. I understand it's on me and here I am - trying to find ways to fix that. Why would you send bad energy my way. Don't get it.. (Maybe you don't ans I just interpret what you're saying in that way) Anyway, I got the insight I was looking for to fix my attitude and behaviour, so thanks for your time anyway. 🙏❤ much love.

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1 hour ago, klxvs said:

 

Whatsupp with you? 😅 Can't you see that I'm here to fix that. I understand it's on me and here I am - trying to find ways to fix that. Why would you send bad energy my way. Don't get it.. (Maybe you don't ans I just interpret what you're saying in that way) Anyway, I got the insight I was looking for to fix my attitude and behaviour, so thanks for your time anyway. 🙏❤ much love.

Bad energy? For giving you the an honest opinion about your words and actions not matching? Kinda sounds that you came here to get validated that you're not doing anything wrong, instead of fixing your hurtful behaviour, if an opinion that doesn't sugar coat it for you sounds like bad energy. Honesty can be hard to handle. 

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