boblob Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) I am earning minimum wage, having no car, not willing to change that in future. I want to move out of parents. I am 27, my looks probably +5. Can I get 30-35 woman, having looks 5-7/10, and shes earning minimum wage or more, to take me to live together? I also want no children. Edited October 26, 2020 by boblob
Wiseman2 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 No. Just find affordable housing on your own. Rent a room or share a house/apt. Is your mother kicking you out? 1
Author boblob Posted October 26, 2020 Author Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wiseman2 said: No. Just find affordable housing on your own. Rent a room or share a house/apt. Is your mother kicking you out? Not yet. I also dont know what she thinking. I also have no job entire quarantine. Looking for options. If I am interested as companion, or I must be provider, who earns atleast + 2x minimum wages. Also I aim at 'hit the wall womans'. Not 20s. Edited October 26, 2020 by boblob 1
Wiseman2 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Make a deal with your parents to get a job and help out more.
Author boblob Posted October 26, 2020 Author Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wiseman2 said: Make a deal with your parents to get a job and help out more. So you really try to tell me that even +30 woman looking for partner who earns alot and spoil thems much? It appears that woman never wanted to befriend with a men? Edited October 26, 2020 by boblob
CaliforniaGirl Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, boblob said: So you really try to tell me that even +30 woman looking for partner who earns alot and spoil thems much? It appears that woman never wanted to befriend with a men? You can get a roommate, yes. Possibly a woman but it will probably be easier to find a male roommate.
Be Cool Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 The last thing you wanna do is to co-habitate with a woman under your current circumstances. 3
schlumpy Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 If you can afford it don't have a roommate. I've seen Best friends forever become best enemies forever because the could not handle the habits and personality quirks of the other person when living together. You are much better off with your own resources then relying on someone else. Please trust me on this. The same would hold true if you rush into a living together relationship with a woman.
Wiseman2 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, boblob said: So you really try to tell me that even +30 woman looking for partner who earns alot and spoil thems much? It appears that woman never wanted to befriend with a men? You need to talk to your mother and father about your role in the family. Do they want you to get a better job or pay rent or help out more? It sounds like your parents are tired of taking care of you . Finding a sugar mama is highly unlikely. 1
ExpatInItaly Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, boblob said: So you really try to tell me that even +30 woman looking for partner who earns alot and spoil thems much? It appears that woman never wanted to befriend with a men? I'm 39, have a stable job and have been financially independent for years. While I already have a partner, I would not be interested in someone who isn't yet self-sufficient and who is still inexperienced at life. I'm well past that phase of my life and would not go for someone who isn't. That's not a shot at you, but you need to be realistic. Most 30+ women, unless they are desperate, aren't going to be looking for a young guy just getting his training wheels to be an independent adult. 3
d0nnivain Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 You haven't had a job since quarantine started & when you were working earned minimum wage. Realistically how much rent can you afford? You may be able to find a room in a house owned by a woman but no woman is going to take you on as a lover if you aren't able to pull your weight financially by contributing to 1/2 the expenses. Any competent single woman over 30 can make it on her own. She does not need to pay you for companionship. 1
Author boblob Posted October 26, 2020 Author Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) But self sufficient men 25-30 may aim for 20s, not for 30s. As I was at school, most 18-19 girls was mating with 25s, few ones same age. Woman at 30s difficult to expects 30s, more likely 40-50 olds or choose unexperienced 20s. Actually it even could be sorta wise to attract unexperienced young men, because she could keep him in control and being him more loyal. Bonus on top - virgin men, untouched one. Edited October 26, 2020 by boblob 1 1
clia Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, boblob said: I am earning minimum wage, having no car, not willing to change that in future. I want to move out of parents. I am 27, my looks probably +5. Can I get 30-35 woman, having looks 5-7/10, and shes earning minimum wage or more, to take me to live together? I also want no children. There are couples out there, both making minimum wage, who live together. So yes, you can probably find a woman making equivalent to what you make who might want to live together. But relationships are multi-faceted, so you have to offer her other things, since you can only offer the bare minimum when it comes to money. Do you have a great personality, are fun to be around, have lots of friends and/or interests, etc.? Why do you only make minimum wage -- why don't you make more? (Are you an aspiring musician or artist or something like that?) Will she have to drive you around since you refuse to have a car? Do you expect her to have a car, or is it okay if she's like you and won't get one?
d0nnivain Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, boblob said: But self sufficient men 25-30 may aim for 20s, not for 30s. As I was at school, most 18-19 girls was mating with 25s, few ones same age. Woman at 30s difficult to expects 30s, more likely 40-50 olds or choose unexperienced 20s. Actually it even could be sorta wise to attract unexperienced young men, because she could keep him in control and being him more loyal. Bonus on top - virgin men, untouched one. I don't know where you get your info about women. Maybe Latvian women are different than American women but in my 30s the last thing I wanted was a fixer-up project guy I had to pay for & teach everything to. 3 1
schlumpy Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Hey. Take a shot at it. At least you have a plan. All you can do is fail. 1
Gaeta Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Go to trade school and learn a skill in 18 months that will allow you to have a decent life like plumber, welder, carpenter. Now you're young but in 20 years what will you attract women with on your minimal wage salary. 1
notbroken Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Get it together. I don't say that to be cruel. But seriously. Your life is not going to be very good working minimum wage, no plan, not bettering yourself for the future. Make a plan and stick to it. Your focus now should be on bettering yourself. Women can and will come later. First become a useful member of society that produces more than you take. Seriously. Find a way to produce more than you take - whatever that means to you.
Mystery4u Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, boblob said: Bonus on top - virgin men, untouched one. That's not a bonus, it's the opposite - a negative thing. At your age you should already know how to satisfy a woman. 5 1
ExpatInItaly Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, boblob said: Actually it even could be sorta wise to attract unexperienced young men, because she could keep him in control and being him more loyal. Bonus on top - virgin men, untouched one. I hate to tell you this, but most women in their 30s are not going to view that as a bonus. You are going to have a hard time convincing the majority of women over the age of 30 that a young and inexperienced guy is a good choice for a relationship at their age. Be realistic or be prepared to be very disappointed. Of course, much of this could be context- and culture-dependent. I am gathering from your writing style and grammatical errors that English is not your mother tongue, so perhaps we should take into consideration that many of us here are speaking from a cultural context that may be very different from yours. Edited October 26, 2020 by ExpatInItaly 1
Ruby Slippers Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 It's universal and biological that women look to date/marry up financially. Not all women, but most. I don't know about Latvia, but most places it's not hard to find this, especially if you're OK with a man older than you.
mark clemson Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, boblob said: Can I get 30-35 woman, having looks 5-7/10, and shes earning minimum wage or more, to take me to live together? Women are not universally alike. I think your best bet would be to form a strong emotional bond with a woman, at which point desire to live together would become a natural outcome for many. Not sure how easy this would be for you, but IMO it would be the most likely way to acheive this if you are not particularly attractive in other ways. Keep in mind that in a way your whole question seems to be taking things backwards. You should be trying to move out from your parents because you wish to. You should be trying to find a woman because you wish to. These things are actually independent. In the US, living on your own (not with your parents) would help you get a woman so should be taken care of first. Not sure about Latvia as apparently this whole "living with your family impacting your perceived social status" thing is actually culturally determined.
major_merrick Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 You are facing the double-standard of most societies. And it is NOT in your favor. I highly doubt you are going to find a woman who will live with you and take care of you. Even if you did, I don't think that situation would be satisfactory for you or her. And in an Eastern European culture, I think that is even less likely than in the USA. Let me explain: 1. Unemployed/minimum wage. For a woman, that's cute. "Take care of me." She'll find a guy who will. You, as a man, that's unattractive. You're supposed to be the protector/provider in the relationship, or at least maintain that illusion. 2. Living with parents at 27. For a woman, that's cute. Again, "take care of me." For you as a man, that's unattractive - see above ^^^ 3. You're a virgin. For a woman, that's cute....she's a dear little flower. For you as a man, that's unattractive. You're 27 and have zero experience. Girls will be asking "Why don't girls want him?" 4. You have no plans. For a woman, that's cute....she's flexible and can mold her life to her partner's life. For you as a man, that's unattractive. No zeal for life, no force, no ambition. In modern society, women have double the advantages. They can be employed and take care of themselves if they want. They are free, and don't have to answer to fathers, brothers, husbands, boyfriends, etc... Yet they have the time-tested social structure to fall back on where they can be cute, unemployed, weak, dependent, etc. if necessary. They can succeed no matter what they do. As a man, you only have one real option: Succeed! Produce or perish. So you need goals, and you need to plan how to get there. You need to be independent, attractive, employed, financially stable, and have your life going in some kind of direction. 3
CaliforniaGirl Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Wiseman2 said: You need to talk to your mother and father about your role in the family. Do they want you to get a better job or pay rent or help out more? It sounds like your parents are tired of taking care of you . Finding a sugar mama is highly unlikely. I agree with this. Not to be one-dimensional, but a sugar mama is going to probably be a little rarer than a sugar daddy with a sugar baby to begin with (just by the numbers you can see this), and the likelihood is very, very, very high that it will be about fawning all over her, being eye candy, and sex. 1
CaliforniaGirl Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, boblob said: But self sufficient men 25-30 may aim for 20s, not for 30s. As I was at school, most 18-19 girls was mating with 25s, few ones same age. Woman at 30s difficult to expects 30s, more likely 40-50 olds or choose unexperienced 20s. Actually it even could be sorta wise to attract unexperienced young men, because she could keep him in control and being him more loyal. Bonus on top - virgin men, untouched one. So not true. Are you in the United States? I don't know about other countries but in the U.S. the majority of people marry within 5 years of one another, statistically. No way to most 30-year-old women marry 45- or 50-year-old men. You then swing the other way and are intimating (I think?) that therefore women in their way are excited or grateful to find young men who are virgins? NO way do most 30-year-old women go for inexperienced men. It can happen, but probably incidentally. It isn't considered a brass ring, by far. Look, no matter where you are, if all that were true, wouldn't you already have this situation? Why would you have to ask us how to find this situation? In a relationship you have to have something to offer, and I'm not even talking money. A personality...a fun nature of a really interesting or (sorry, this will sound stupid but I don't know how else to put it) unique/cool nature or being physically attractive (again, sorry) or a total love of life or...something. In another post above you talk about women "mating with" men and the like. And you talk about strange living situations and not even desiring sex. You talk about not wanting to change situation of having no car, making minimum wage (would you want a woman like that?), not having sex, and having a woman take care of you. These just aren't going to be desirable traits to most women and, without even knowing you yet, aren't going to be "come hither" calling cards. Edited October 26, 2020 by CaliforniaGirl 2
Els Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Where are these mysterious 30+ yo women you speak of who are chomping at the bit to cohabitate with an unemployed 27 yo man who has never lived away from his parents? I certainly don't know any, lol. 4 1
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