Does asking me to contact her on instagram or snapchat mean it's a scam? What is the danger?

June 25, 2020

If it seems too good to be true, then it is.

June 25, 2020

FWIW (maybe nothing at all), I've heard that the "I'm not on here very often so..." thing in relationship to scams.

On any app the person is going to get an alert if she's contacted. "I'm not on here a lot" is such BS. So? Okay, then why are you "on here" at all...KWIM?

And even if she was on the app once a year she'd get her alert from it.

JMO...

June 25, 2020

On 6/24/2020 at 6:27 PM, max3732 said:

On a dating app I commented on someone's picture and we had 1 other back and forth after that. She didn't respond for a few days and said she'd prefer it if I contacted her on instagram or Snapchat and said if I don't we could continue on the app, but it would take her longer to respond since she doesn't check it as often.

Her profile doesn't scream "Scammer" like most of the ones I've seen and she actually had 1 real response to my opening message.

I have an instrgram account, but don't really use it other than occasionally when I get a notice that a friend has posted for the 1st time in a while. I don't think I want a potential scammer on there.

Snapchat I've never used in my life and know nothing about other than messages are supposed to disappear or something.

Would there be any harm in downloading Snapchat and talking to her that way? Let's say she is a scammer. Would I just get messages on there asking for money or something or could they send me a virus and try to steal my identity or documents on my phone?

If you were me would you continue to message her on the app or try one of the other methods?

Not necessarily.

Once I was in an online forum dedicated to sailboats.

I come across this woman's picture on the ''picture reveal'' section of the forum, and I message her asking something about boats. We start talking and a few days after she sends me a DM saying she was too busy to come online but that I could contact her on snapchat. I did so. We never met because she was so far away all the way in Australia, but we did fool around a bit, trading nudes, sexting and talking about how much of a jerk her ex-boyfriends were.

Just because a woman is hot doesn't mean she's in a romantic relationship. And just because she is in a relationship doesn't mean you two can't have fun.

Remember, this ain't marriage. There ain't a binding contract forcing her to act a certain way, and even when there's a social contract with the govt. in it, she's still free to be out there in dating sites . You can even meet attractive women to date in say, gaming forums, or just to hook-up despite stuff like that being filled up to the brim with men.

You can also fool around with attractive women you meet on facebook, instagram, twitter. Just send them a DM with something funny or charming. Start talking to them and eventually they'll turn the conversation sexy. These women are hot but they either don't know they can lock down a rich soccer player or actor, because in their imaginations they're only ''average,'' or they're hot, and they're dating said rich soccer player who sleeps with other women behind her back, and she feels lonely and unattractive.

By being in the right place at the right time and saying the right things can easily end up with you in bed with a woman who makes a very good living off her natural looks.

There have been times I've been scammed. Not over money, but thinking the ''woman'' was a woman when in reality it was a guy. Happened to me 2 times. But I laughed it off and went back in into the fray.

And the best thing about snapchat is that you can ask for nudes, and it's so easy to take them, to send them, and they vanish from the person's history after what 30 seconds.

so both of you already have a visual idea of what each other looks like naked, which makes, ''hmm, should I get off the couch and stop watching Gone With The With for the 50th time to walk an hour and a half to get to this woman's house,'' or nah, I'll just keep watching this movie because the effort is too much for the reward.

Edited June 25, 2020 by Azincourt

June 25, 2020

2 hours ago, CaliforniaGirl said:

FWIW (maybe nothing at all), I've heard that the "I'm not on here very often so..." thing in relationship to scams.

On any app the person is going to get an alert if she's contacted. "I'm not on here a lot" is such BS. So? Okay, then why are you "on here" at all...KWIM?

And even if she was on the app once a year she'd get her alert from it.

JMO...

That's what I think. I'm not constantly logging into all the dating apps, but when I get a message there's an alert on my phone. I wish I got so many messages that I'd have to turn notifications off or ignore them. On Match.com this one woman said she didn't install the app because it takes up too much space. That sent up some red flags.

Out of curiosity, what are the people after with Snapchat? Is that the same thing where they want followers to monetize their account? Sometime I'll see a profile with the Snapchat name imbedded in the photo. That's a pretty clear sign to me it's a scammer.

Dating is tough enough for me without dealing with scammers and people trying to gain followers.

June 25, 2020

9 minutes ago, max3732 said:

Dating is tough enough for me without dealing with scammers and people trying to gain followers.

There are lots of women on dating sites after easy money, and men after easy sex. It's wise to avoid these people.

June 26, 2020

I don’t know what is about dating apps and wanting to talk on Snapchat instead of exchanging numbers it’s dumb. People who meet in “real life” don’t ask for a Snapchat they ask for a number. When has anyone heard of meeting someone at a public place and they ask for snap? It’s absurd . Just for guys to jerk off to pictures and women who want followers to get some of that hooker money

June 26, 2020

1 hour ago, Bluesky00 said:

I don’t know what is about dating apps and wanting to talk on Snapchat instead of exchanging numbers it’s dumb. People who meet in “real life” don’t ask for a Snapchat they ask for a number. When has anyone heard of meeting someone at a public place and they ask for snap? It’s absurd . Just for guys to jerk off to pictures and women who want followers to get some of that hooker money

Not necessarily.

I have a pre-paid simcard. I have about 10 euros in it in case I need to call someone, and I rarely ever text people, unless it's family. I hate phones. I hate talking into a small box and I hate texting, especially on a Nokia 1100. So what I do is when I meet women in real life is to ask for their snapchat or their twitter or facebook. Then I message them on those apps and social media applications and I save up on money.

June 26, 2020

On 6/25/2020 at 10:44 AM, max3732 said:

I didn't realize that people could tell that you watched their IG stories. That's really good to know! All this time I thought it was anonymous

Yesterday when I typed in her name it brought up a video that I don't see now that I assume was her story. She was saying how bored she is and wants her friends to come visit her. Nothing provocative or anything, but I wonder if she just went on the app because she was bored.

I just checked her account and she has 14k followers and she is following 500 people. That sounds like a lot of followers to me so maybe she is just trying to drum up followers. As far as I know all my settings are private so she can't see anything about me, right? What if I message her. Does that let her see me?

She wants followers....

June 27, 2020

ah. That makes sense. Someone with 14k followers is probably working herself up to becoming a nude model or something. She's probably working to find clients. Yeah, move on and forget about this woman. She probably has a lot of guys thinking she is interested in them.

June 27, 2020

2 hours ago, Azincourt said:

ah. That makes sense. Someone with 14k followers is probably working herself up to becoming a nude model or something. She's probably working to find clients. Yeah, move on and forget about this woman. She probably has a lot of guys thinking she is interested in them.

Will do.

I don't get why 14k people would continue to follow someone they don't know. The only people I follow are ones I went to college with or things like the tennis tour so I can see highlights. No matter how attractive or whatever a woman is I'm not going to watch her talking about what she had for lunch or her latest vacation.

What about these ones that say they want you to contact them on Snapchat? Same thing?

June 27, 2020

1 hour ago, max3732 said:

Will do.

I don't get why 14k people would continue to follow someone they don't know. The only people I follow are ones I went to college with or things like the tennis tour so I can see highlights. No matter how attractive or whatever a woman is I'm not going to watch her talking about what she had for lunch or her latest vacation.

What about these ones that say they want you to contact them on Snapchat? Same thing?

Because she's hot and there's lots of guys who have way too much free time to waste. It's like those online-streaming gaming plataforms where young women(attractive ones) make a living selling bath water to guys who are desperate for attractive women to notice them, and since these guys don't have a mortgage, probably don't have a car, and they have money to spare, what they do is to spend hundreds of dollars, even thousands, per month, on those instagram and facebook models.

Yeah, but the way you are is not the way many men are.

That also depends on the woman. There are women who are actually men and catfish dudes on snapchat. I had 2 dudes doing that to me. I laughed it off and moved on. There are plenty of women out there, tho, who love snapchat and all that app stuff and are more than open to meeting guys online and talking them on apps. Some of them are in relationships already and are only seeking for male attention to make them feel like they're still attractive, whereas there are others who want to get jiggy jiggy with the guy and sexting/trading nude pictures is a lot more intimate than sex phone.

Many women like snapchat because they get to have some fun from the comfort of their houses, and the pictures they send disappear from the app 30 seconds to 1 minute after the guy sees them for the first time.

How to make sure you don't get catfished?

Get on snapchat, and then ask them to send you a picture of them(dressed, don't start asking for nudes. Let women take the first step) with their online username writen on a piece of paper while they're holding it.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Azincourt

June 27, 2020

56 minutes ago, max3732 said:

Will do.

I don't get why 14k people would continue to follow someone they don't know. The only people I follow are ones I went to college with or things like the tennis tour so I can see highlights. No matter how attractive or whatever a woman is I'm not going to watch her talking about what she had for lunch or her latest vacation.

What about these ones that say they want you to contact them on Snapchat? Same thing?

ah, but that's the thing. You would follow her and she wouldn't follow you back, thus her followers number grows--which is how a lot of girls make their money or at least hope to. I'd guess with 14k followers she is in the "hope" to category, and that's assuming they are real. You can monetize it (as someone said above, sorry I forget who) and there are people making pretty good money to VERY good money doing just that and what they love and getting attention for it. It's usually lifestyle, fashion, beauty related or fitness. I would suspect you would know if she hopes to do bikini because that is usually models. Sexier stuff where they hope to monetize that IMO is more rare on IG (pretty sure it is against their guidelines) so anyone that is trying to do that has an account that is fly by night kind of thing with just a few followers and they direct message you right away, often with a link. That's to get the transaction OFF IG's platform. But it's beyond obvious when it's that. Those accounts often get reported and removed--which is why it's easier to conduct that type of stuff on snapchat.

I've only seen one girl who was a legitimate model turn into something on the edge--during the pandemic. She has tons of followers much more than 14k and seemingly overnight had a link to ONLYFANS account and her content changed. I can only guess she needed the money. And then there are established playboy type models who of course that's their brand so they post more of that kind of content but it's not like they are prostitutes.

Snapchat is my guess is where you'd be seeing the direct scam that some of the guys are talking about. Because of the way the platform is. But otherwise in general you can take the range of answers you've gotten here about both platforms and apply it to the range of motives. The motives range from trying to verify YOU or see what you are about all the way to prostitution-ish things. I'd say if you are dating women in 20s or 30s a lot of them might not ask for the exchange of social media before you've even met but it doesn't mean they don't use it. Tons of people ARE posting what they ate for lunch or latest vacation--that's just the reality. So you could end up in relationship or dating someone who cares about this. They might not care that you don't do it but it you feel it's "stupid" that they do it, you are probably not a match.

June 27, 2020

16 minutes ago, Versacehottie said:

ah, but that's the thing. You would follow her and she wouldn't follow you back, thus her followers number grows--which is how a lot of girls make their money or at least hope to. I'd guess with 14k followers she is in the "hope" to category, and that's assuming they are real. You can monetize it (as someone said above, sorry I forget who) and there are people making pretty good money to VERY good money doing just that and what they love and getting attention for it. It's usually lifestyle, fashion, beauty related or fitness. I would suspect you would know if she hopes to do bikini because that is usually models. Sexier stuff where they hope to monetize that IMO is more rare on IG (pretty sure it is against their guidelines) so anyone that is trying to do that has an account that is fly by night kind of thing with just a few followers and they direct message you right away, often with a link. That's to get the transaction OFF IG's platform. But it's beyond obvious when it's that. Those accounts often get reported and removed--which is why it's easier to conduct that type of stuff on snapchat.

I've only seen one girl who was a legitimate model turn into something on the edge--during the pandemic. She has tons of followers much more than 14k and seemingly overnight had a link to ONLYFANS account and her content changed. I can only guess she needed the money. And then there are established playboy type models who of course that's their brand so they post more of that kind of content but it's not like they are prostitutes.

Snapchat is my guess is where you'd be seeing the direct scam that some of the guys are talking about. Because of the way the platform is. But otherwise in general you can take the range of answers you've gotten here about both platforms and apply it to the range of motives. The motives range from trying to verify YOU or see what you are about all the way to prostitution-ish things. I'd say if you are dating women in 20s or 30s a lot of them might not ask for the exchange of social media before you've even met but it doesn't mean they don't use it. Tons of people ARE posting what they ate for lunch or latest vacation--that's just the reality. So you could end up in relationship or dating someone who cares about this. They might not care that you don't do it but it you feel it's "stupid" that they do it, you are probably not a match.

Yes. I know. women who make hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars a year via instagram. I know one woman who made over 4 million dollars over a span of 8 years.

And I know women who are dating professional soccer players who make 5 million euros a year after taxes, dudes who were truthful about it and said they got little to no female attention from women before getting rich.

It's not women's fault men are thirsty and that a very large amount of men will throw their life savings at an attractive woman just because she said hi to him on her online chatroom. I can't really blame them, and there's plenty of men who bank on their extraordinarily good-looks to make MILLIONS of dollars. Brad Pitt, Sean O'Pry, Harrison Ford, Ryan Gosling, Tom Cruise, Henry Cavill, David Gandy amongst other dudes.

Are these guys good actors? Yeah, they are, but without their amazing good-looks they wouldn't be making half of what they do.

Many instagram models do that. They get a big instagram following and then they go, ''and if you want to support me, consider subscribing to my onlyfans account''. It's usually because a medical urgency showed up in their family and they need the cash, or they're stacking up money to be able to attend college without taking college loans.

There's plenty of fashion models and women who work in the sex industry(women who perform in adult movies, women who work as strippers, women who work as escorts, women who get naked for online magazines) who will sleep with you because they're attracted to you, and they don't expect you to pay for it, but that's like everything else. The more women you meet, the more chances you get of finding women like that.

It is what it is. If I was you I wouldn't follow that model on instagram. There's lots of hot women out there.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Azincourt

June 27, 2020

Can someone explain to me what only fans is? A guy suggested I do that because he told me I was really hot and could make money. He told me I could do videos but I just wanna show pictures . Is it a pornsite?

June 27, 2020

It’s like Snapchat premium where you get Nekkid, yes

June 27, 2020

OnlyFans is an online website where attractive women(instagram models; attractive video-game streamers; and attractive cosplayer women) go to to make more extra income on the side. They get naked there, take pictures of themselves naked, videos, and they even put online - for a bigger price - videos of themselves having sex with their boyfriends.

There is one female video-games streamer that went as far as hiring a male porn star and doing a porno movie with him and then putting it on her onlyfans lol.

What I don't understand is why don't these guys take an airplane to ( to the Countries with legalized professional prostittution) Europe, hire an escort as attractive if not more than these women, and actually get to have sex. I don't understand the concept of spending money, lots of money, on women you're only looking at.

June 27, 2020

I would just add so it's clear to OP that if your girl was trying to collect followers that the most plausible scenario is that she is trying to monetize her IG via having enough followers that she gets paid per post and collaborations etc. That's far more likely than her doing sex gigs on there. I mean also based on what you said you saw on her stories that she was "bored". Did she say she was bored while wearing lingerie or some regular or even cute outfit with a full face of makeup lol? That's why I keep asking what her job is. I would guess she is trying to make it on side as an influencer or perhaps has no real job and trying to make it as an influencer.

Just to be clear, the reason the a girl would collect followers is the amount of money you earn for your sponsored posts is based on the total number of followers you have and your engagement with them (can be checked by metrics). Also if she is in the range of followers that she is (14k) she may still be working toward more sponsored posts but still obtaining free product to post (micro influencer). Also this is reason why a person would buy followers for a low amount of money because the return on the money invested in buying followers has potential to be great if you become a real influencer. If a person was in the range of followers you said she is, she might try to get more followers in a "real" way, ie the dating app route so it will increase her "engagement" with them, such as you liking photos, posting messages etc. Also buying followers is often discussed as going to be cracked down on and if you look you can tell who is fake follower anyway. Lastly, at her level of 14k, that is in the range where it starts to push the profile up the algorithm and she can explode exponentially an reach a very high number--such as 100k, which is in the actual beginning of money making range--very soon if she keeps progressing right now, it kind of gains speed. Don't know how to verbally explain that part so hopefully you understand. So in that way, it's most likely a low-level "scam". It's not really a scam but she is almost surely trying to gain followers, and not looking to date you, though would date someone if the right one came along. Less so now, but social media was the wild wild west a while ago and the returns were huge. When more people are trying to chase it now, they resort to "unconventional" methods cause the potential payoff is STILL huge.

June 27, 2020

30 minutes ago, Versacehottie said:

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I would just add so it's clear to OP that if your girl was trying to collect followers that the most plausible scenario is that she is trying to monetize her IG via having enough followers that she gets paid per post and collaborations etc. That's far more likely than her doing sex gigs on there. I mean also based on what you said you saw on her stories that she was "bored". Did she say she was bored while wearing lingerie or some regular or even cute outfit with a full face of makeup lol? That's why I keep asking what her job is. I would guess she is trying to make it on side as an influencer or perhaps has no real job and trying to make it as an influencer.

There are women who use instagram as their escorting page. I dated A German woman once who hustled as an independent sex worker and she used her social media to advertise her services to men. Instagram, facebook, twitter, she got quite a big number of followers, and amongst those followers there were men who inquired about what she is on the website(instagram, facebook etc) for, and a lovely arrangement between her future clients and herself was made.

30 minutes ago, Versacehottie said:

Just to be clear, the reason the a girl would collect followers is the amount of money you earn for your sponsored posts is based on the total number of followers you have and your engagement with them (can be checked by metrics).

Yes, the more followers they get, the more chances they have of finding sponsors.

30 minutes ago, Versacehottie said:

Also if she is in the range of followers that she is (14k) she may still be working toward more sponsored posts but still obtaining free product to post (micro influencer). Also this is reason why a person would buy followers for a low amount of money because the return on the money invested in buying followers has potential to be great if you become a real influencer. If a person was in the range of followers you said she is, she might try to get more followers in a "real" way, ie the dating app route so it will increase her "engagement" with them, such as you liking photos, posting messages etc. Also buying followers is often discussed as going to be cracked down on and if you look you can tell who is fake follower anyway. Lastly, at her level of 14k, that is in the range where it starts to push the profile up the algorithm and she can explode exponentially an reach a very high number--such as 100k, which is in the actual beginning of money making range--very soon if she keeps progressing right now, it kind of gains speed. Don't know how to verbally explain that part so hopefully you understand. So in that way, it's most likely a low-level "scam". It's not really a scam but she is almost surely trying to gain followers, and not looking to date you, though would date someone if the right one came along. Less so now, but social media was the wild wild west a while ago and the returns were huge. When more people are trying to chase it now, they resort to "unconventional" methods cause the potential payoff is STILL huge.

Exactly.

June 27, 2020

Of course I agree. I'm not saying the escort avenue is unheard of and there certainly is a grey area between outright escort and "enjoying perks" of courting guys who follow you.

Just going what with what will be the most likely answer having seen OP's posts for a while, the info he posted on this thread about this girl and the venue she directed him to and what that is like in general & the business side of it. I think Azin is mostly looking at the direct connection (a possibility of course) of how this girl will "profit" from OP following her, ie directly putting money in her pocket, while I'm looking at the indirect connection which is far more common. Both are possible and in the range. Bottom line, her purpose does not seem to be to date the OP.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Versacehottie

June 27, 2020

3 minutes ago, Versacehottie said:

Of course I agree. I'm not saying the escort avenue is unheard of and there certainly is a grey area between outright escort and "enjoying perks" of courting guys who follow you.

Just going what with what will be the most likely answer having seen OP's posts for a while, the info he posted on this thread about this girl and the venue she directed him to and what that is like in general & the business side of it. I think Azin is mostly looking at the direct connection (a possibility of course) of how this girl will "profit" from OP following her, ie directly putting money in her pocket, while I'm looking at the indirect connection which is far more common. Both are possible and in the range. Bottom line, her purpose does not seem to be to date the OP.

Exactly. Time for OP to move on and meet new women.

June 27, 2020

3 hours ago, Versacehottie said:

I would just add so it's clear to OP that if your girl was trying to collect followers that the most plausible scenario is that she is trying to monetize her IG via having enough followers that she gets paid per post and collaborations etc. That's far more likely than her doing sex gigs on there. I mean also based on what you said you saw on her stories that she was "bored". Did she say she was bored while wearing lingerie or some regular or even cute outfit with a full face of makeup lol? That's why I keep asking what her job is. I would guess she is trying to make it on side as an influencer or perhaps has no real job and trying to make it as an influencer.

Just to be clear, the reason the a girl would collect followers is the amount of money you earn for your sponsored posts is based on the total number of followers you have and your engagement with them (can be checked by metrics). Also if she is in the range of followers that she is (14k) she may still be working toward more sponsored posts but still obtaining free product to post (micro influencer). Also this is reason why a person would buy followers for a low amount of money because the return on the money invested in buying followers has potential to be great if you become a real influencer. If a person was in the range of followers you said she is, she might try to get more followers in a "real" way, ie the dating app route so it will increase her "engagement" with them, such as you liking photos, posting messages etc. Also buying followers is often discussed as going to be cracked down on and if you look you can tell who is fake follower anyway. Lastly, at her level of 14k, that is in the range where it starts to push the profile up the algorithm and she can explode exponentially an reach a very high number--such as 100k, which is in the actual beginning of money making range--very soon if she keeps progressing right now, it kind of gains speed. Don't know how to verbally explain that part so hopefully you understand. So in that way, it's most likely a low-level "scam". It's not really a scam but she is almost surely trying to gain followers, and not looking to date you, though would date someone if the right one came along. Less so now, but social media was the wild wild west a while ago and the returns were huge. When more people are trying to chase it now, they resort to "unconventional" methods cause the potential payoff is STILL huge.

In the video where she said she was "bored" she was in a backyard Jacuzzi, but had a very modest bathing suit on. It wasn't in the least bit skimpy. I don't remember what he job is. In our only message I had asked her about an area from one of her pictures and told her I'd been there many times. She told me she was from there and I asked a question about one of the big activities there. After that she was gone.

This whole process has been very enlightening. I also remember when I was at the cutting edge of technology and would show my parents and grandparents how computer programs worked and would show them different hardware and software.

Maybe because I'm getting older or prefer to us a computer or TV vs. staring at a tiny cell phone screen I'm kind of oblivious to some of the things going on.

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