smackie9 Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, June2017 said: We went to our own countries during covid So..... that means diddly squat . Communication is key for a relationship. If you don't communicate your concerns it will fail. Ask her for yourself.
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, smackie9 said: So..... that means diddly squat . Communication is key for a relationship. If you don't communicate your concerns it will fail. Ask her for yourself. Didly squat?
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, FMW said: Before asking her though, I would ask yourself - do you really want to be with someone who holds views and actively supports things that are so antithetical to who you are? Her being rich and the two of you having great sex are bonuses, but if you don't have a solid basis (and how can you with such opposing positions on something with which you deeply identify), they are worth nothing in the long run. Staying together or not during COVID isn't a great barometer of the seriousness of your relationship. But I don't see how the relationship can be serious when you have ongoing doubts about her associations and support for causes that go against who YOU are. They identify as hard left which will never change. I ask for staying apart because my friends said couples who want to stay together did unlike us who went our own ways
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, d0nnivain said: I did not say she might love you. I told you it's not possible for her to love you because she doesn't know you. You have been lying to her all this time. You suppress big parts of yourself. You cannot get a read on her feelings for you until you reveal your true self. If I do, I will lose wll my friends and her . Pretty sure as they have harassed jews before and are extremely hateful of israel
ExpatInItaly Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, June2017 said: OK. Do you consider this non serious? Yes, exactly. It's not a serious relationship.
d0nnivain Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, June2017 said: If I do, I will lose wll my friends and her . Pretty sure as they have harassed jews before and are extremely hateful of israel So what? They aren't your friends if they would harass you because you are Jewish. If she's so important to you, are you willing to abdicate your beliefs, convert to her religion & support Palestine over Isreal? If not, why do you want to keep a woman who hates the very nature of you?
datingvirgin Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, June2017 said: If I do, I will lose wll my friends and her . Pretty sure as they have harassed jews before and are extremely hateful of israel May I ask how old you are? I don't think the situation you are in is healthy in anyway. If you were abused previously, I can see why you want to stay in this similarly abusive relationship. This is a pattern with people who are victims of abuse, they constantly seek out abuse. YOU SERIOUSLY NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP! Please don't underestimate this, i hope you find peace.
smackie9 Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, June2017 said: Didly squat? Diddly squat =Nothing. Her going back home can't be used as a measurement of lack of commitment to you.
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, smackie9 said: Diddly squat =Nothing. Her going back home can't be used as a measurement of lack of commitment to you. It does. People don't go homes and be separate when the option of being together is there 1
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, datingvirgin said: May I ask how old you are? I don't think the situation you are in is healthy in anyway. If you were abused previously, I can see why you want to stay in this similarly abusive relationship. This is a pattern with people who are victims of abuse, they constantly seek out abuse. YOU SERIOUSLY NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP! Please don't underestimate this, i hope you find peace. 24 turning 25
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, d0nnivain said: So what? They aren't your friends if they would harass you because you are Jewish. If she's so important to you, are you willing to abdicate your beliefs, convert to her religion & support Palestine over Isreal? If not, why do you want to keep a woman who hates the very nature of you? I don't know anymore. I guess i was desperate for a relationship after I lost the girl I truly wanted to be with
smackie9 Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, June2017 said: It does. People don't go homes and be separate when the option of being together is there That is YOUR view of it...my perspective, I would want to be with my family at this time. 2
preraph Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 She's not a match . You can't expect yourself or your parents to accept someone with antisemitic views. Depending where you are in the world, I suppose, you can't really expect most people to accept antisemitic views. It's one thing to have an opinion about Israeli overreach, I suppose, but just in general, unless one has family involved, It seems like an extreme stance, and it sounds like she is far beyond anything moderate. You can find someone more in line with your values and allegiances, I would think. 1
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, smackie9 said: That is YOUR view of it...my perspective, I would want to be with my family at this time. I'm sorry but if thats the case then the relationship is not serious if you prioritize family over another "supposed family member".
Backinthesaddleagain Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 Ahhh religion. Is there anything it can do?
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, preraph said: She's not a match . You can't expect yourself or your parents to accept someone with antisemitic views. Depending where you are in the world, I suppose, you can't really expect most people to accept antisemitic views. It's one thing to have an opinion about Israeli overreach, I suppose, but just in general, unless one has family involved, It seems like an extreme stance, and it sounds like she is far beyond anything moderate. You can find someone more in line with your values and allegiances, I would think. She claims she's not antisemitic but antizionist just like all my friends. Edited June 25, 2020 by June2017
preraph Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 Sounds like she doesn't know WHAT she is, but why does she need to be any of those prejudiced things?
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, preraph said: Sounds like she doesn't know WHAT she is, but why does she need to be any of those prejudiced things? My friends and her claim to be hard left and socialists who think they can change the system. However, they only listen to their own views. No other opinion is tolerated.
preraph Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) There's a lot of that going around. I wouldn't have anything to do with any of them! You can't be that desperate for friends that you need this type. Note: "Hard left" in your case may be different than the US "hard left" thread that recently started. Edited June 25, 2020 by preraph
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, preraph said: There's a lot of that going around. I wouldn't have anything to do with any of them! You can't be that desperate for friends that you need this type. Note: "Hard left" in your case may be different than the US "hard left" thread that recently started. I would like to add that going by the hostile nature I would call myself German and how I'm from Germany instead of saying I'm part Israeli. I would hide that or distance myself from it as many Jewish people had been harassed by the same circle of friends.
Backinthesaddleagain Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, June2017 said: I would like to add that going by the hostile nature I would call myself German and how I'm from Germany instead of saying I'm part Israeli. I would hide that or distance myself from it as many Jewish people had been harassed by the same circle of friends. It sounds more like a "circle of jerks". As others have said, you need to find new friends.
preraph Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 You just shouldn't have to hide who you are June2017. If you do, time to find new friends.
Author June2017 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, preraph said: You just shouldn't have to hide who you are June2017. If you do, time to find new friends. 12 minutes ago, Backinthesaddleagain said: It sounds more like a "circle of jerks". As others have said, you need to find new friends. I'm involved in politics too and this is the only group I know. On top of it I kinda emulated their non tolerant approach and effectively lost a few friends and a budding relationship with a really beautiful girl whom I was lovestruck with. They do know I go to synagogues though and they remain silent on that.
preraph Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 You need people who aren't as "out there" and who you don't have to pretend with. You sound young. You can just walk up and make new friends. I once had someone caution me when I was about to enter college, "Don't just take up with the first group you talk to; be selective because whoever you start out with, that's who you'll end up with most likely." They were just saying don't let friends just happen to you . I should have listened! In school, it's easy to make friends.
Backinthesaddleagain Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, preraph said: You need people who aren't as "out there" and who you don't have to pretend with. You sound young. You can just walk up and make new friends. I once had someone caution me when I was about to enter college, "Don't just take up with the first group you talk to; be selective because whoever you start out with, that's who you'll end up with most likely." They were just saying don't let friends just happen to you . I should have listened! In school, it's easy to make friends. Someone once told me "Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are". Don't be friends with d-bags. 1
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