d'Arthez Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 The whole dichotomy is false, as I stated in my earlier post. It is easy to call yourself a nice guy / bad boy. That does not make you one. If it would, I would call myself the King of England. The 'nice guy' hooghie describes is highly similar to the bad boy - but instead of an indifferent attitude to everything, he uses a passive-aggressive attitude to cover up his own insecurities. He is not interested in you, he is only interested in acquiring you. Both 'types' of guys are no prizes. But again, not all guys belong to either category. Should I take it personal if "the good looking and feminine girls go for the masculine testosterone-driven guys?" No. You can think that it is not the masculine testosterone driven guy who is succesful. Might as well think that both have serious issues. For example. I have yet to see a woman who is long term happy in a relationship with 1 single bad boy. Alpha (nothing personal, but you are quite open about your relationships) may be a bad boy, but we are also aware that he does not form longlasting relationships.
alphamale Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Marilyn Monroe and Arthur Miller? I've seen some gorgeous women with bookworm-type guys. right and how long did that last LOONEY?? In addition Mr. Miller did have some ca$h and was quite famous at the time. But had he not had money and not been famous he would have not been with Ms. Monroe.
hooghie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 The 'nice guy' hooghie describes is highly similar to the bad boy.... So, what is your definition of a nice guy?
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 So, what is your definition of a nice guy? the way you sound hoogie i'll like to know when was the last time your man bought you flowers?
hooghie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 the way you sound hoogie i'll like to know when was the last time your man bought you flowers? He usually buys me some form of flowers every week. He had to go back to Canada last week and I won't see him for a few more weeks (long story), but just before he left he gave me a beautiful bundle
d'Arthez Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 So, what is your definition of a nice guy? As 'nice guy' is often used in threads like this, a simple description of the term would be: a guy who pursues the same women a 'bad boy' pursues (gorgeous, out of their league), with different means. Most often by being "emotional support" of some sorts, and often with passive aggressive tendencies and all kinds of issues that are often blamed on the bad boys (who don't respect relationships for instance), or whatever there is outside of themselves, including the women they pursue / are in a relationship with. If you define nice guy in such a way, and believe that bad boys are the only alternative, it is not hard to see why supposedly women are attracted to the bad boys. Not all men have issues. Not all men are "nice guys" or "bad boys."
hooghie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 As 'nice guy' is often used in threads like this' date=' a simple description of the term would be: a guy who pursues the same women a 'bad boy' pursues (gorgeous, out of their league), with different means. Most often by being "emotional support" of some sorts, and often with passive aggressive tendencies and all kinds of issues that are often blamed on the bad boys (who don't respect relationships for instance), or whatever there is outside of themselves, including the women they pursue / are in a relationship with. QUOTE'] That is exactly what I think guys who describe themselves as 'nice guys' are/do.
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 That is exactly what I think guys who describe themselves as 'nice guys' are/do. hoogie do you believe that a badguy will admit that he is bad? if so than why women like to complain alot? its not the badguy women want they want badguy image then they bitc* and whine. and blame everyone.
lindya Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Perhaps some women go for bad boys because they've inhibited their own potential to be "bad girls". I can certainly appreciate the vicarious pleasure of watching someone else act out behaviour you'd secretly like to try out for yourself. Maybe when women just allow themselves to behave like bad girls now and again, there's less need or temptation to keep falling into the masochistic "bad boy's favourite moll" role.
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 alright everybody on one side you have a very handsum guy in a suit and a tie makes a descent living and is really a nice guy have nothing to do with drugs is a bit funny and a bit grumpy sometimes on the otherside you have a guy something like slim shady or say 50 cent one pocket full of weed other full of cash has too many gold chains and rings and pants hung down to their buts are almost naked. which one would you say the women will go for? oh i'm not pointing fingers at anybody
lindya Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 alright everybody on one side you have a very handsum guy in a suit and a tie makes a descent living and is really a nice guy have nothing to do with drugs is a bit funny and a bit grumpy sometimes on the otherside you have a guy something like slim shady or say 50 cent one pocket full of weed other full of cash has too many gold chains and rings and pants hung down to their buts are almost naked. which one would you say the women will go for? Can I pick the third option. Nice guy with a spliff?
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Can I pick the third option. Nice guy with a spliff? describe spliff? please
Topper Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Lindya, I think you made a good point about woman using the men in their lives to help define who they are. If I'm dating this bad ass guy then that must make me a bad ass girl.
Topper Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Lindya, I think you made a good point about woman using the men in their lives to help define who they are. If I'm dating this bad ass guy then that must make me a bad ass girl. Jaye is right please define "Spliff"
whichwayisup Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 (Some) Women like badboys because it makes them feel "alive." To be desired, chased and caught. To have mindblowing sex night after night, to be on the rollercoaster ride, having that rush...Well, 2 years in, that gets boring. As much as the sex probably is incredible and nothing else compares, that's all it is. Nice guys are the ones who are relationship material. Long term, marriage, to be fathers. There are SO many types of "nice guys", and ofcourse "badboys" too. Everybody has their own version of what each is.
lindya Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Sorry. Spliff = joint. Obviously I was using the term metaphorically So the ideal is a nice guy (ie generally drug free - metaphor for not a harmful being who will wreck my health and wellbeing), containing enough bad boy bits (ie the odd toke) to keep my bad girl bits entertained.
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Sorry. Spliff = joint. Obviously I was using the term metaphorically So the ideal is a nice guy (ie generally drug free - metaphor for not a harmful being who will wreck my health and wellbeing), containing enough bad boy bits (ie the odd toke) to keep my bad girl bits entertained. lindya you're bad bad girl you must be a high maintenance
hooghie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 hoogie do you believe that a badguy will admit that he is bad? if so than why women like to complain alot? its not the badguy women want they want badguy image then they bitc* and whine. and blame everyone. Some bad boys do admit it, but I think most that do are very young. hahaha- I see your point on the whining, but I think a lot of girls tend to whine about their man no matter what he's like! Now, on what type of guy I prefer. Well, when I was younger- I preferred the Eminem guy, but now I would probably prefer the handsome guy in a suit. Ultimately- my preference is a an attractive guy who is very educated lives a little on the edge and is a lot of fun to be around. Guys who call themselves 'nice guys' just aren't like that in my experience.
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Now, on what type of guy I prefer. Well, when I was younger- I preferred the Eminem guy, but now I would probably prefer the handsome guy in a suit. Thank you...... would you mind telling all these famalians arround here eating my brains out. you changed in time most don't. Good Job:) :) :)
hooghie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Thank you...... would you mind telling all these famalians arround here eating my brains out. you changed in time most don't. Good Job:) :) :) Thanks! I do think Em has incredible sex appeal though...uhhhhhhhhh..... BUT- one of my requirements for a guy is a college education and general intelligence/knowledge. Most guys my age who dress like Em don't live up to that. Now Em, well, he didn't go to college, but I think he is really talented and smart so I certainly wouldn't say no to him if I were single. If Em were a guy on the street without the fame? I wouldn't give him a second thought.
jaye Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Thanks! I do think Em has incredible sex appeal though...uhhhhhhhhh..... BUT- one of my requirements for a guy is a college education and general intelligence/knowledge. Most guys my age who dress like Em don't live up to that. Now Em, well, he didn't go to college, but I think he is really talented and smart so I certainly wouldn't say no to him if I were single. If Em were a guy on the street without the fame? I wouldn't give him a second thought. what about when you were young?
hooghie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 what about when you were young? And I saw him on the street? I would have fallen head over heels! BTW-I'm still YOUNG darn it!!! ;-) (I'm 35, but I look much younger. )
jaye Posted October 9, 2005 Posted October 9, 2005 And I saw him on the street? I would have fallen head over heels! BTW-I'm still YOUNG darn it!!! ;-) (I'm 35, but I look much younger. ) sorry 35 right? wow whats your phone number?
helena abadi Posted October 9, 2005 Posted October 9, 2005 Some) Women like badboys because it makes them feel "alive." To be desired, chased and caught. To have mindblowing sex night after night, to be on the rollercoaster ride, having that rush...Well, 2 years in, that gets boring. As much as the sex probably is incredible and nothing else compares, that's all it is. whichwayisup, that's absolutely right.
helena abadi Posted October 9, 2005 Posted October 9, 2005 i can't find it now, but someone on this thread wrote that bad boys can't let go of the women they have sex with. why is this??
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