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3 hours ago, stillafool said:

I thought you said you were only around old, fat men.

You said they don't want you either.  It's very hard to follow your thread because you won't answer direct questions with a direct answer and your story keeps changing.

 

3 hours ago, stillafool said:

I thought you said you were only around old, fat men.

You said they don't want you either.  It's very hard to follow your thread because you won't answer direct questions with a direct answer and your story keeps changing.

Yeah I think you just don't want to follow I said the people in my neighborhood but other types of low class men I'm good with those other men don't want me.

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3 hours ago, K.K. said:

“ If it doesn’t make sense, it’s not true!

- Judge Judy 

 

* Totally meant as an ‘in general’ comment, only. She was just on the tube and I thought about how many times that is soooo fitting. Right?  🥴

Yeah all women can get any man they want and every straight woman is attracted to all men that hit on her

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15 minutes ago, Caauug said:

Have you ever had a male role model in your life?

Why only the negative interactions? Or is that all you are seeing/remembering?

So you like the feminine guys.... That rules out a lot of the male population, and then take out the gays there wouldn't be many left. In your male age group testosterone should be high making the men more masculine.... 

You did not have a father figure growing up.

You have only experienced negative male interactions

You are into guys more feminine that yourself

Good of your mum raising you as a single parent, but I think you might have missed some important interactions that are now affecting your adult life.

No my dad died before I was born he wouldn't be someone I'd want to look to anyway 

 

 

For me I try to be as positive as positive like the stuff about men who asked me if I was a guy I got that online several times I would still try and meet up with them I always try to be as nice and positive no matter what. I'm like how a dog is to its owner you might be getting hit but you're still trying to show that you're loyal loving and care about them and it doesn't matter.

 

Well emotionally I don't really need a man I am a lot like a guy in personality anyway. So that's why I don't mind feminine guys.

 

Also I am not familiar with men so I've always been shy in person with them.

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How do you dress around others?  Clothes make the man and it makes a difference, if you dress like trash, people treat you like trash.  I was subbing in a high school of a failing suburb in my city and I was shocked at how the girls dressed.  Not only did they have tattoos already but they dressed like strippers - skirts the size of beer cozies, thigh high boots, boobs flaring out, and they put their makeup on with butter knives.  And it was the dead of winter!  I am showing MY age now but I was like "cover this up!"  

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4 minutes ago, mortensorchid said:

How do you dress around others?  Clothes make the man and it makes a difference, if you dress like trash, people treat you like trash.  I was subbing in a high school of a failing suburb in my city and I was shocked at how the girls dressed.  Not only did they have tattoos already but they dressed like strippers - skirts the size of beer cozies, thigh high boots, boobs flaring out, and they put their makeup on with butter knives.  And it was the dead of winter!  I am showing MY age now but I was like "cover this up!"  

yea I'm not that femme even right before my cycle

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You should have lead with Fremont! Hahaha Everyone in Vegas propositioned me. Even a lovely woman. 😕 Lol! Vegas is not a place I'd want to be wandering around alone. Between the drug dealing Mexicans selling coke and the pimps selling women, and the men who flee there to hopefully bang someone, I'm not shocked. 

What did shock me a bit is I was with my ex. I even had one man hand his business card to my ex in case he was willing to sell me for the evening. He was not. 

I have never encountered anything like Vegas in my life. Lol. Get the heck out of that State. This is not what the rest of the world looks like. Lol. In Vegas, even when you look nice, dirty bags hit on you... or they did for me anyway. 

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Gosh now I don't know whether to feel insulted or happy.  Even when walking on Freemont Street in a dress no one hit on me or propositioned me.  I have never been mistaken for a hooker. 

oppositeage26 -- if this always happens to you, then you are the only common denominator.  Something about the way you act, the vibe you give out, how you carry yourself is inviting this.  That will have to change.  

If you wear jeans & t-shirts & still get inappropriately propositioned, try changing your wardrobe to something more classic.  Wear trousers & blouses or at least tops rather then t shirts.   You don't have to become more feminine if you prefer your tomboy look but wear nicer fabrics.   

If you are shy, you can overcome that by improving your self esteem.  Read some books on the subject if money is an issue. You can find them in the self help section of your local library.  If you have the money consider taking classes like those offered by organizations like Dale Carnegie. 

Are you involved in organized religion at all?  Perhaps turn back to God in the hopes of finding a better class of people to hang out with.  Consider getting involved in civic organizations designed to improve the community.  When you volunteer to do good, you end up feeling better about yourself.  What is your level of education?  Perhaps take some classes.  Where do you work?  If it's in the gaming industry where you are around drunks, vacationers, & general bawdiness, get an office job somewhere or study to be in healthcare so you are part of the solution not the problem.   

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Try an experiment.

Put "getting laid" out of your mind for 3 months and concentrate on amassing the money and resources to move to a different area altogether.

Avoid--like the plague--ANYONE who says they want you to be a black slave--that's a sick individual and you could wind up injured behind that mess.

Stop being so laser focused on getting sex. You're trying too hard. 

If you feel you look/act too masculine, then educate yourself on how to bring out more of the feminine side of yourself in your actions and appearance.  If you keep being mistaken for a hooker, then stop painting yourself up and dressing in a way that leads everyone to think you are one.

Light a candle instead of cursing the darkness.  Make it your mission to change where you live and get out of that neighborhood where all you run into are pimps and druggies.

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I suspect that your opening premise is incorrect - that guys treat you differently than EVERY other woman.  How do you know that they do?  Men who behave that way with you are behaving that way with other women too.  It's not a "one off" thing.  They are generally disrespectful of women.   

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20 hours ago, oppositeage26 said:

I get hit on every day but not the guys I am at all physically attracted to.

 

 No one chases me besides men I never will want. It's frustrating.

 - that's the thing, you not only have to find a guy you are attracted to, but he has to be a good catch too - in other words, he has to have a decent personality and be good on the inside. You'll find one.

Dating is like searching for a needle in a haystack. But you only need to find one good one.

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Men treat you how you treat yourself. 

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On 2/13/2020 at 12:37 PM, oppositeage26 said:

Why is it guys treat me less than every other woman?

 

I think you are quite well-spoken here, so clearly you DO have a lot going for you.

 

I would also say you've had an extreme  lack of male personalities in your immediate upbringing,  SO much so that it may have a considerable impact on your present persona.

 

If you were purely a social experiment in a textbook or something, maybe we'd rewind to the point where you were age 5, and we'd introduce a (decent and sincere boyfriend into your mother's life for the rest of your childhood)... to learn whether just that would have a significant impact on how you evolved, and on how you relate to men in the present.

Even if we...  could study someone who was less fortunate... where in our same experiment we introduced an abusive alcoholic as the boyfriend to your mom from (you being) age 6, who may have only stayed with your mom until you were 10, and then disappeared... your sexuality may indeed have evolved in some other, more pronounced direction.  (one where the 'you' of today would look over at that {still strange-to-YOU} young woman across the room and think :    "she's really got it going on"  (she wouldn't... completely...   but that's what you would think toDAY if you saw her from your present perspective) )

 

How about when you were 11 or 12... and you...  began developing...    was your impulse back then to (hide that factor from the world)?      And did (boys being boys) SAY things at that time which (only inspired you to further shroud your femininity) ??

 

IF you were just a textbook,  I would think that the noteworthy lack of any close male father figure in your formative years would really having you leaning toward wondering (and guessing) what a solid and decent man was like...  and perhaps even trying to guess about that, potentially via your own attire and how you presented yourself in your teens.

Everything you report IS probably very normal...  within the wide range of causes and effects connected to someone who (was raised well enough to communicate and interact here as you have)... AND who knew only a complete void in the area of close male role model.

 

Some of your instincts may well be true in that as you have first wondered and then wandered  over toward the (void that is 'good guys', or ANY guys) for you to have even known what one was like... the effect ON actual (good male role models of somebody else's future  -  translation:  the crass 'normal' male classmates you knew in high school when you were there)... may indeed have driven those males away.   (and how could *you* have even known that it might do so? - given ZERO in the way of early 'males' to hint at what is 'normal' for males)

Think for a moment about someone losing a tooth... and how, now there's an empty space...   and if you wait a while, a nearby tooth will lean over into the void there...   that's just how it is...     but what if that also describes much of your childhood with zero close male role models as well???  (so you, potentially, leaned over into that void in the same way)

 

Nearly all of us are in many ways products of our upbringing...  though usually when anyone brings this up, it's because somebody has really done something WRONG as an adult.  But you haven't done anything particularly WRONG...    yet it surely merits some consideration now that you have EVOLVED in ways directly connected to your childhood, and especially that without a strong male role in your surroundings.

 

Keep engaging your mind, and keep writing, and reading, and if you continue to do that,  you will find your own parallel personality in a psychology book somewhere... and from that you will be able to learn remarkable understandings about how you came to be who you are.   Evvvvvvvvvvvvvvverything will fall into place when suddenly a light goes on in your understanding.

 

The causes and effects with humans are NOT that often the obvious ones that everyone believes they know.

 

YOU clearly have enough on the ball to understand yourself  in just a few years.

 

Maybe a good goal for you will be to achieve that self-understanding by the time you're in your early 30's and ready for your 'sexual peak'?

 

No rush...  just keep chipping away!

 

 

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I'm confused, first you say that guys you are not interested in, hit on you, then you say, you were so desperate to lose your virginity that you would have even accepted one of the older guys at work. The whole post is so contradicting, I don't know what to make out of it.

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