littleblackheart Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: Yes they are. Ah. Does that mean the richest states will be able to afford to look after their citizens while others won't be, or will this count like special measures and all states are expected to do this?
Timshel Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 My husband is working at the moment and isn't available for twitter, ls or face book the majority of any day except the days that he has off. Since he is out there working and exposing himself to people in multiple states and multiple areas every day without blinking, he in neither panicked or an keyboard warrior. Within the last 24 hrs. he has been from Central FL to Atlanta, Ga. with stops in between and will carry on until tomorrow when he will finally be home for less than 48 hrs. Discussion does not equal panic, but I do think that some people are triggered by this and if so, they definitely should avoid social media and news bingeing. People should maintain their comfort level of information exchange and not allow themselves to become anxious or overwhelmed. Adults must take responsibility for their mental and physical health. Take a walk if possible and instead of telling others to stop discussion, remove themselves from it if they are over burdened. Since this is a democracy, I think that it's important for people to be aware of how our elected officials are conducting our protocols and managing this pandemic; completely relevant in my opinion. 5
amaysngrace Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, littleblackheart said: Ah. Does that mean the richest states will be able to afford to look after their citizens while others won't be, or will this count like special measures and all states are expected to do this? I don’t know about richest states, but we’ve joined forces with several other near-by state leaders to mastermind and formulate plans together. Probably richer states though. We are all taxed to death but at least we get it back when we need it. 1
sothereiwas Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, thefooloftheyear said: All you and the others are doing is making the point that in times of crisis, people fall apart. Meh, it's very little change for me. We stopped our multi-weekly visits to the grandparents, and the kid is out of school before June. The schools are promising a mass homeschooling effort is coming, so that will be a change but we can handle it. Other than that and a few cancelled events (dog training is postponed) nothing is changed so far. I am looking forward to getting my $1000 check(s); usually the government is more like a broken slot machine that never pays out so that will be a change.
amaysngrace Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 In NJ they put plans in motion for homeschooling and ensuring children who rely on free lunches were in place before closing them down. Less children roaming means less spread of illness.
Gaeta Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I have a questions about Trump $1,000. Here in Canada both levels of government will help people losing revenues and in *need* of help, they'll be additional help for families with children etc. But when I heard Trump say he'll sent a $1,000 check to ALL Americans isn't it wasted on many people that don't need it? I am sure Jennifer Lopez doesn't need a $1,000 check and everyone earning above 6 digits annually. 1
simpycurious Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: In NJ they put plans in motion for homeschooling and ensuring children who rely on free lunches were in place before closing them down. Less children roaming means less spread of illness. I wonder if schools are in ANYWHERE in the US at this point. I keep seeing pictures of the Spring Breakers along the Gulf Coast and the Atlantic side. Why haven't the states shut that down?? Maybe, it's coming shortly. We had a group headed to Chicago then Indianapolis but obviously all that is on hold until who knows when It seems like the larger cities are seeing big spikes in cases (makes sense due to the population density). It really is a good time to be away from such densely populated places.
thefooloftheyear Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gaeta said: I have a questions about Trump $1,000. Here in Canada both levels of government will help people losing revenues and in *need* of help, they'll be additional help for families with children etc. But when I heard Trump say he'll sent a $1,000 check to ALL Americans isn't it wasted on many people that don't need it? I am sure Jennifer Lopez doesn't need a $1,000 check and everyone earning above 6 digits annually. Not everyone will get it....It will be based on household income, derived from 2018 tax return info......I think I heard that anyone over 75K isnt getting the money....Or less based on a sliding scale... TFY Edited March 20, 2020 by thefooloftheyear 2
sothereiwas Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, thefooloftheyear said: Not everyone will get it....It will be based on household income, derived from 2018 tax return info......I think I heard that anyone over 75K isnt getting the money....Or less based on a sliding scale... So, slot machine still broken. Figures. 4 minutes ago, Gaeta said: But when I heard Trump say he'll sent a $1,000 check to ALL Americans isn't it wasted on many people that don't need it? The number of people who are as rich as JLo is so small that statistically I wouldn't likely add any significant cost to the program, whereas sorting out who gets a check and who doesn't is also not free. Whatever, I'm used to supporting my fellow citizens by now.
amaysngrace Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, simpycurious said: I wonder if schools are in ANYWHERE in the US at this point. I keep seeing pictures of the Spring Breakers along the Gulf Coast and the Atlantic side. Why haven't the states shut that down?? That’s Florida and their governor is an ass. He’s still allowing people to eat in restaurants. 1
Gaeta Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: whereas sorting out who gets a check and who doesn't is also not free. I imagine the computers can sort that easily using last year's income taxes reports. 1
littleblackheart Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) What's the protocol in place in the USA for those with symptoms? Do you have a helpline or rules in place, or do you have to rely on 'social responsibility' ? In the UK 'suspected cases' stay at home for 7 days and their families are quarantined for 14 days, preferably in separate rooms, with little contact and no going out at all. Edited March 20, 2020 by littleblackheart
amaysngrace Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) My state has a helpline. We are also recommended to self-quarantine and self-isolate in the home away from other family members and pets and to use a separate bathroom if possible if you think you’ve contracted it. Edited March 20, 2020 by amaysngrace
The Outlaw Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 11 hours ago, amaysngrace said: Does anyone else feel like they had it already? Last week I felt like I caught a bug, had diarrhea for nearly two days, felt my cheeks flush a little during that time and also felt achey. I didn’t bother to take my temp because the flushing in my cheeks would come and go. I didn't feel too hot Wednesday morning but I didn't get much sleep the night before nor did I eat enough. And I was mildly stressed with a light cough that comes and goes but it isn't nagging. I started to come back around after a little while and feel fine. But now, I'm washing/sanitizing my hands at an insanely increased rate and keeping my distance from people which is nearly impossible in my line of work. But yesterday I was just agitated. There was a woman that was coughing not so far from me and didn't even bother to cover her mouth when she did. I just shot her a 'WTF' look. The audacity with what's going on is amazing. Everyone stay safe out there. 1
nospam99 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Plenty of people were careless pigs long before this virus. Crapped in the public washroom and walked out without washing their hands but being sure to tough the door knob or handle. Why are we 'surprised' that they cough without covering their mouths now? 2
sothereiwas Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gaeta said: I imagine the computers can sort that easily using last year's income taxes reports. That part is easy, and if that's the only factor then it's easy, but it's probably not going to be that easy. Did that high earner retire? Become disabled? Get laid off? Some other life event that's going to change their righteousness as far as getting a check is concerned? Generally the American desire to be fair to all and politicians love of the complex (most of ours are lawyers) causes a bunch of secondary considerations to be allowed, and this generally adds an amazing degree of complexity.
littleblackheart Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: My state has a helpline. We are also recommended to self-quarantine and self-isolate in the home away from other family members and pets and to use a separate bathroom if possible if you think you’ve contracted it. Do people generally heed the advice? As an illustration, in my little town I feel like we've been quite sensible for the most part. I assume that's because we have an unusually high number of medical professionals living here + to be frank, it's a nice middle class town that is wealthy enough not to worry too much about being financially hit (panic buying isn't that bad here, and people still go out 'as normal' but are really very respectful of each other with social distancing) with a very strong sense of community. I really hope people pull together to support the most vunerable, but I worry it'll further increase the already wide economic divide. 1
princessaurora Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, simpycurious said: They are still letting the spring breakers on the beaches of the Gulf Coast which is amazing. I bet they will close the beaches soon (some are already closed). Hope you are staying safe Princess Thanks simply. We are definitely trying to. I hope they close down all major social gatherings soon. I have an essential job as a banker, but we went to drive thru only this past monday and there are no more than 5 of us there at a time, so that's relieved my stress a good bit. My husband works for the Navy but fortunately he is only with 2 other people in his building so social distancing is easy there. I basically go to work, the grocery every few days as needed, pick up my kids from my parents house, and then home. Some of my friends are still gathering with groups and teasing me about being a hermit, but I don't care. With their mentlity, I fear one of them will get it eventually. And I have to say i'm proud of my 19 yr old! Her and her boyfriend cancelled their plans to go on vacay next week in Tennessee. They are just going to stay in and watch movies/tv shows. She loves her grandparents and doesnt want to put them at risk or my husband who is still recovering from his annual bronchitis. You never know who this is going to affect no matter how young or old, that's the scary part. Edited March 20, 2020 by princessaurora add 1
amaysngrace Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Nursing licensure has been lifted. They can now go wherever they’re needed nationally. 1
Beendaredonedat Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Outlaw said: There was a woman that was coughing not so far from me and didn't even bother to cover her mouth when she did. I just shot her a 'WTF' look. I think you should have told her outright, but nicely to please cover her cough. People need to be educated.
The Outlaw Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Beendaredonedat said: I think you should have told her outright, but nicely to please cover her cough. People need to be educated. I should have but I was also equally shocked. Most people likely don’t even think about it, but they should. Panic has overcome rational thought here. 1
Timshel Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, amaysngrace said: That’s Florida and their governor is an ass. He’s still allowing people to eat in restaurants. Yep. I said a few days ago that I was impressed with his press conference and for a minute thought that he (Desantis) was getting it. However, though our schools are closed, the beach closings are reliant upon mayoral discretion. Restaurants are at 6 ft. or 50% capacity which is nonsense. Bars and clubs are shut down but apparently people are going to liquor stores and hitting the beach. So yeah, unfortunately, he's an ass. We have no state income tax here, so I realize that FL is heavily reliant on the tourism industry but this isn't ok. 2
Libby1 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, thefooloftheyear said: There is nothing to ":ace:", buddy,,.....I am choosing to not lose my head over this...There are people that are sitting on Twitter, LS and Facebook posting non stop about how their lives are falling apart...Maybe they should go for a walk or tend to a garden...You can tune in on any form of media and get updated 24/7 ..The constant winding up of the public isnt doing anyone any good.... TFY I think for anybody fortunate enough to have a garden, it should be a godsend right now. For those who maybe just have a small outdoor area, it might be worth buying a few planters. Even with a small area there's a lot you can do with grow bags. Hopefully supply problems will be sorted out soon, and panic buying will calm down...but growing some fresh produce is a good plan right now. For those who are totally stuck indoors there are still options like lettuce, watercress and sprouts to grow indoors and provide a bit of fresh produce. There's a youtube video going around just now of a nurse in a critical care unit who was in floods of tears after being completely unable to get any fresh produce in the supermarket. It was heart rending to see this person who's doing so much to help others, crying with frustration about being unable to get basics. I don't honestly know how much is down to people bulk buying for themselves. A lot of people are probably going to the shops to get stuff for others as well as for themselves...but there are a lot of frayed tempers and blaming going around just now, which I suppose is inevitable. A lot of people have been posting on Facebook about being unable to get common meat like chicken. When I went to the supermarket the other day, there was no chicken other than whole ready cooked ones. I got one of those, and it was good for about three meals (for two) plus soup. We hear a lot (in normal times) about the amount of food waste that goes on. This is a real time to get creative with leftovers and make sure absolutely nothing in the fridge goes to waste...because really, who wants to go to the supermarket any more than necessary right now? It's just depressing to go in and see all those empty shelves. And of course, some people can't go because they're self isolating. I've seen stuff about people selling toilet roll for ludicrously inflated prices. We've got enough for a couple of months (ie avoiding using it wastefully)...but frankly, I'd get creative with other options before I would be prepared to put money in the pockets of these bogroll selling opportunists who are probably the pricks filling trolleys with umpteen multipacks.
Redhead14 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Bartering may become a good option . . . a roll of toilet paper for some zucchini???? If you can spare the TP :) 1
amaysngrace Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Timshel said: However, though our schools are closed, the beach closings are reliant upon mayoral discretion. Doesn't the governor have a higher discretion than the mayors do? I would think he’d be able to override their decisions if he had to because they weren’t being careful enough.
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