sothereiwas Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gaeta said: I've just heard that some of our alcohol makers are now switching to making desinfectant alcohol. So, printing different labels?
Els Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, sothereiwas said: So, printing different labels? You would die if you drank disinfectant in quantities that you drink even vodka in...
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Fletch Lives said: I've just heard that some of our alcohol makers are now switching to making desinfectant alcohol. Quote 75.5 percent alcohol (Bacardi 151, Everclear) There's liquor out there you can grab out of the shelf and use as desifectant.
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Elswyth said: You would die if you drank disinfectant in quantities that you drink even vodka in... Brad Pitt survived 15 years drinking a bottle of vodka a day, and I don't think he was getting the cheap kind
sothereiwas Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Elswyth said: You would die if you drank disinfectant in quantities that you drink even vodka in... Some rums and other liquors are plenty strong to disinfect with. Not everything is peppermint schnapps. EDIT: Here's the deal sparky. Most of the inexpensive high-octane 'drinks' are not distilled to their final bottle strength. They are essentially a mix of ethanol and whatever else the manufacturer wants to blend in. Upshot, "they" are already making pure ethanol, all they need to do is pour it into a different bottle (optional) and relabel (mandatory) Edited March 19, 2020 by sothereiwas
Woggle Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Back in the days before antibiotics they used to treat wounds with whiskey. 1
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: Some rums and other liquors are plenty strong to disinfect with. Not everything is peppermint schnapps. Quote General Uses with Any Alcoholic Spirits Use alcohol to start a fire- Fire is crucial for life. Warmth, cook fires, food preparation, or even when burning sanitation, you need fire for many survival, self-sufficient living, or SHTF situations. An easy way to start a fire is by using any liquor, as it can be ignited rather easily. Just dab some fabric in your alcohol, and light. The higher the alcohol content, the easier it will ignite, proofs of 80 or higher should do very well with even the toughest conditions. Quote Use liquor as a medical disinfectant- in a pinch when you need to disinfect a wound, or sterilize medical supplies, alcohol will kill bacteria and you can even use it to flush an area before stitches, removing debris, after an animal bite, etc. Quote Relaxation tonic- when using it for any medical needs as above, well, you can relax the muscles and anxiety a bit by using it for its original purpose: a few drinks can do wonders to ease tension. Quote Cold medicine mix- any alcohol with a few teaspoons of honey or molasses, and you will have a nice sore throat reliever. The liquor will burn away any phlegm, so it is a nice soothing way to breathe free when you are congested. It is a proven vasodilator, so it can open the lungs up and allow for some much needed oxygen. Don't take my word for it, tho, I'm not a doctor, just some tips from a survivalist blog 1
Redhead14 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Woggle said: Back in the days before antibiotics they used to treat wounds with whiskey. They treated everything with whiskey -- toothaches, backaches, ear aches and the flu . . .
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Quote Back in the days before antibiotics they used to treat wounds with whiskey. Yeah, Kevin Costner's character in 'Dances with Wolves was given a bottle of whiskey before the surgeon was about to cut off his leg. Quote They treated everything with whiskey -- toothaches, backaches, ear aches and the flu . . . Sigmund Freud used to prescribe cocaine to children suffering from toothaches you could cross the street and buy heroine and cocaine in the local drugstore for nickels Edited March 19, 2020 by Azincourt
sothereiwas Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Redhead14 said: They treated everything with whiskey -- toothaches, backaches, ear aches and the flu . . . Hemorrhoids? 1
RecentChange Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: So, printing different labels? They are producing a product designed for sterilization rather than drinking. Not like they are just swapping labels on whiskey bottles. Some craft distillers in our area are doing the same thing.
RecentChange Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: So, printing different labels? They are producing a product designed for sterilization rather than drinking. Not like they are just swapping labels on whiskey bottles. Some craft distillers in our area are doing the same thing. 1
Els Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: Some rums and other liquors are plenty strong to disinfect with. Not everything is peppermint schnapps. Lol, no. Contrary to the old wives' tale, you ain't killing any viruses with rum. They require 80% ethanol + 5% isopropanol. You COULD add dodecanoic acid to lower the alcohol content but I would advise against drinking that too. 6 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: EDIT: Here's the deal sparky. Most of the inexpensive high-octane 'drinks' are not distilled to their final bottle strength. They are essentially a mix of ethanol and whatever else the manufacturer wants to blend in. Upshot, "they" are already making pure ethanol, all they need to do is pour it into a different bottle (optional) and relabel (mandatory) Possibly true, I'm not familiar enough with the manufacturing industry to say. 1
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: Hemorrhoids? Nah, my dad suffers from that, he's a hard liquor fan, and it does nothing for it.
sothereiwas Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Elswyth said: Lol, no. Contrary to the old wives' tale, you ain't killing any viruses with rum "Efficacy against enveloped viruses Ethanol has been shown to be effective against various enveloped viruses [14]. Beginning at a concentration of 42.6% (w/w) ethanol is effective within 30 s against SARS coronavirus, MERS coronavirus, ebolavirus, influenza A virus including the human type H3N2, the avian type H3N8 and human type H1N1, influenza B virus, HIV, HBV, vacciniavirus, duck hepatitis B virus, togavirus, pseudorabies virus, Newcastle disease virus, bovine viral diarrhoea virus, zikavirus, herpes simplex viruses type 1 and 2 and RSV [5], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33], [34], [35]. Ethanol is effective at 73.6% (w/w) against HCV in 15 s and 30 s but not at 40% [16], [35], [36]." - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670117304693 I can't say, as I'm not an expert, but this guy plays one on TV.
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Quote Italian doctor dies of coronavirus after working without gloves due to shortage Quote Dr. Roberto Stella, 67, succumbed to the illness Tuesday night at a hospital in Como, where he was being treated for respiratory failure from the virus, Italy’s state-run ANSA wire service reported. Quote “He was the example of the capability and hard work of family doctors,” Silvestro Scotti, national secretary of the federation, said. “His death represents the outcry of all colleagues who still today are not equipped with the proper individual protection needed.” Quote Italy reports 475 new coronavirus deaths in a day Quote Hard-hit Italy reported an additional 475 deaths from the virus on Wednesday, and France imposed a draconian lockdown unseen during peacetime. In the United States, the virus has now spread to all 50 states. Quote Second coronavirus death in Turkey confirmed Quote Turkey on Wednesday confirmed its second death from coronavirus. "We have lost a 61-year-old male patient. I wish Allah's mercy upon him," said the country's Health Minister Dr Fahrettin Koca in a tweet. Meanwhile, 93 new cases were confirmed, raising the tally to 191 in the country, Koca said. The confirmation of the second death comes after Koca said on Tuesday that an 89-year-old man had died - the first fatality from the virus in Turkey.
simpycurious Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, RecentChange said: They are producing a product designed for sterilization rather than drinking. Not like they are just swapping labels on whiskey bottles. Some craft distillers in our area are doing the same thing. This seems to be going on across the country. Plus, I heard some of the auto makers are going to be making respirators in their car factories. 4
Redhead14 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, simpycurious said: Plus, I heard some of the auto makers are going to be making respirators in their car factories. I'm kinda having a hard time putting the idea of a car maker making things that will help people breathe together It's an oxymoron of sorts. But it's a noble thing to offer to do. Edited March 19, 2020 by Redhead14 1
Ellener Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Fletch Lives said: Decades ago they used to have home milk delivery. MacArthur dairy used to do it in my neighborhood when I was a kid. Some families used to get milk delivered to their door everyday. I wonder if that will happen again? I remember that, in the UK we called it the 'milk float' and it was a battery powered little truck which went super slow!
simpycurious Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: I'm kinda having a hard time putting the idea of a car maker making things that will help people breathe together It's an oxymoron of sorts. Indeed it is. Well, Ford Motor Company stock was trading at just under $5.00 a share this morning.
K.K. Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Hey, this is just a suggestion but seeing as how this isn’t the Political Warmongering Forum or whatever, maybe some of you can refrain from Trump bashing or political bullsht and talk about the virus itself. Seriously it’s like “Oh I would’ve done this and why didn’t he/they do that? Why didn’t they tell us back in November or last year that this was coming?” It’s easy for armchair quarterbacks to say that now isn’t it? When you guys know that if it would’ve went that way, you would’ve been talking some other kind of bullsht that he/they were ‘insane and creating panic’. Seriously, calm down. You’re not all gonna dieeee. If you want to stay in the house, stay in the house. You really need an executive order to figure that out? Most of you are seemingly pretty level headed. But a few of you are just getting hysterical and/or rude. That’s cool if that’s what you feel you need to do. But I try to read this thread too and I stay out of the political forum for a reason. Stick to the facts. The president bashing is uncalled for. Especially if you don’t even live in this country. And if you do, well then it’s just pathetic finger pointing and unpatriotic to boot. Stay over there in the other forum with the rest of the haters. So I don’t have to look at you. Please? 4 3 2
Ellener Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Here it is! There were also bread deliveries and 'pop' deliveries too when I was a yonger kid! Interestingly, the milk man prevented social isolation too amongst the house-bound. 1
Ellener Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I just went to the drive-through car wash just to give them my business and for a semblance of normality, not to mention the yellow pollen here is hateful in March! They were fairly busy. Going to garden despite the pollen later, there are tons of butterflies and the azaleas and bougainvilia are flowering.
RecentChange Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, simpycurious said: This seems to be going on across the country. Plus, I heard some of the auto makers are going to be making respirators in their car factories. I am glad Ford and GM are also behind this, as I was highly skeptical of Elon's claim that he would make them. I hate to be a cynic - but he didn't shut down the Tesla factory here in Fremont despite orders from the county for a shelter in place and a stoppage of all non essential business. He claimed that his factory was exempt (it's not - county had to correct him on that) and was making his thousands of employees come to work - in the hot bed of a major outbreak. Endangering our entire community. And now that the county has mandated that most factory work etc halt - his employees have to use their PTO time. If they do not have any, no pay. He has sent out memos that this is just a flu and over blown. Oh but now he is going to manufacture ventilators. I wonder how one sets up the supply chain to manufacture an entirely new product during a pandemic. 3
lana-banana Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Elon Musk should not be taken as an authority on anything except egomania. He's not a genius (all of his business successes come from buying out the work of his co-founders), he's not a visionary (the injury rate in Tesla's "tents" out in California is astronomical, and the quality of their paint jobs is quite poor) and he's certainly not helpful (remember when he tried to "invent" a rescue submarine that would've killed those poor trapped kids immediately?). Given the rate at which Teslas break down and spontaneously catch fire, I'd rather take my chances than use a Tesla-manufactured ventilator. 1 1
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