elaine567 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inflikted said: I don't know how vaccine testing and finalization and mass production works, but unless they can somehow get a vaccine out before years end, I don't really understand how life is going to work for the next year and beyond. I am sure there may be ways worked out to fast track this, but atm vaccine is not going to be ready for probably 18 months, despite bypassing the animal testing.
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) This timeline is super fast, tbh. A vaccine in under 18 months is impressive turnaround. At some point we're bound to get back to 'normal' anyway, though hopefully we'll have taken stock of how we are handling this for next time. On the plus side, I've had friends drop bread and board games off (didn't need them, but they wanted to help so couldn't say no) and tons of messages from people I barely know (school mums, mainly) offering to deliver stuff, asking after my son or just offering chats. Still not sure how this quarantine thing is going to work for another 12 days - I had to give an online class to students from my kitchen table while the kids were in their bedrooms, (completely surreal, but fun) but at least I'm developing my technological skills. At least my CV is looking better. Next target: improving cooking skills. Edited March 18, 2020 by littleblackheart 1
justwhoiam Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Inflikted said: I still wonder what the actual timeline is going to look like on all of this, too. Well, that greatly depends on the measures taken in an area/country. Italy was the first Western country to go on lockdown. So we expect to get out of it before other Western countries. I don't think we can get out of it before June. Now lockdown is until April 3rd, but there'll still be cases going on. Even if they keep saying contagion happens in two weeks, a safe span is 24 days, because shorter times can lead to re-infections. Like the Japanese woman who got it twice. She probably didn't get it twice, she wasn't out of it yet. This is also confirmed by an expert (on youtube: Coronavirus Is Our Future Alanna Shaikh TEDxSMU. Quote But it's also not really feasible to "shut down the world" and lock everyone in for the next 12-18 months. There are two currents of thought apparently: one is we stand for everybody and try to make it through together or everyone for themselves and come what may. UK was going down this latter path, though they had to reassess the scenario. There was an experiment in Italy, in the Veneto region, you know, the region of Venice. There was a hotspot, with the first death in the region. The citizen was living in a town of around 3,300 inhabitants. They decided to test everyone and lockdown the positives immediately. Well, it came up that 3% were positive (so around 100 people). They were quarantined and they haven't had any more cases in 48 hours. So the lockdown works. The problem is obviously that on a national scale it'll take much longer, because production needs to go on (food chain, antivirus devices like masks, disinfectants & soaps, and medicines) and a certain part of the population still needs to work (carers, nurses, doctors, pharmacists, workers in food stores/shops). Edited March 18, 2020 by justwhoiam
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Everyone should order online and grocery shop from home. Let those who deliver suit up in those spacesuits to bring your food.
elaine567 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: Everyone should order online and grocery shop from home. Let those who deliver suit up in those spacesuits to bring your food. No delivery slots available. 1 1
justwhoiam Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: Everyone should order online and grocery shop from home. Let those who deliver suit up in those spacesuits to bring your food. I didn't try Amazon Pantry. But I can tell you that is not really feasible for everyone in a lockdown scenario. Unless your country is superorganized. In my area, that kind of service was reserved to old people and those who tested positive (and I'm not even sure how good that worked for them).
elaine567 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Quote Big Brother contestants in Germany have finally been told about the coronavirus pandemic, after entering the house on February 6 before the outbreak swept the globe Plans to keep the contestants in the dark unless a relative became ill were overturned following an uproar on social media over the decision. On Tuesday night, from behind a glass screen, host Jochen Schropp and Big Brother resident doctor Dr Andreas Kaniewski broke the news to the housemates. Oh dear! Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 We have delivery service set up pretty well where I live. And not just since the virus, it’s been an option for a while now.
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: We have delivery service set up pretty well where I live. And not just since the virus, it’s been an option for a while now. Yes, we've had it for some time, however, now they are inunadated. 1
elaine567 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, amaysngrace said: We have delivery service set up pretty well where I live. And not just since the virus, it’s been an option for a while now. We HAD a great service, now since panic set in no delivery slots available. One retailer is going to have a one hour early morning opening for the elderly and infirm to get priority and are going to contact those that NEED online delivery service. Not sure how well that will work. 2
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: Yes, we've had it for some time, however, now they are inunadated. It’s most likely like that here now too. I never used it but I know a lot of people who do. I need to pick my own food, just like I need to try something on before I buy it. I’d never buy clothing online either although I do buy shoes.
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 I see people from my window ordering online from supermarkets. Wonder how long it will take before the local supermarkets start taking orders because they can't deal with so many of them. 1
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: It’s most likely like that here now too. I never used it but I know a lot of people who do. I need to pick my own food, just like I need to try something on before I buy it. I’d never buy clothing online either although I do buy shoes. I've used it a few times. I don't order fresh produce because the shoppers stink at picking it out. I don't order fresh meat either. But its good for most other things. 1
elaine567 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11198242/heartbreaking-photo-elderly-man-empty-sainsburys-coronavirus/# A HEARTBREAKING photograph of an elderly man staring at empty shelves in Sainsbury’s has captured the reality of people panic-buying during the coronavirus pandemic. The poignant image shows the man staring down at a shopping list in front of bare shelves in his local store in Epsom, Surrey 1
justwhoiam Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: We have delivery service set up pretty well where I live. And not just since the virus, it’s been an option for a while now. Where I live too. It's just at this moment it can't work for everyone, for obvious reasons.
basil67 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Azincourt said: I see people from my window ordering online from supermarkets. Wonder how long it will take before the local supermarkets start taking orders because they can't deal with so many of them. Our supermarkets are currently closed to online ordering - they can't keep up with the complexities of doing both online ordering and keeping stock on shelves with stupid panic buyers creating havoc. 1
justwhoiam Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I'm proud of my people, we hadn't scenes like seen in Australia or the UK 1
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Australia's Prime-Minister stated that he's ashamed of being Australian after what the Australians have been doing. Thing is, most Australians hate the guy because of how he acted and behaved during the Australian fires. 1
basil67 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 We're ashamed of him and he's ashamed of us. Heard him a day or so ago talking about wanting people to behave as Australians (paraphrasing). What the hell does that mean? How about using descriptors which mean something? 1
elaine567 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, justwhoiam said: I'm proud of my people, we hadn't scenes like seen in Australia or the UK We have a very entitled, narcissistic and selfish culture. ME, ME, ME. 3
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) I remember that time when he went went on about touching and handshaking people who clearly didn't want to be touched by him. Oh, and that part where he spent his holidays during the fires in Hawaii with the trip and the stay being paid off by the taxpayers? Quote We have a very entitled, narcissistic and selfish culture. isn't that every Country and every culture? Brazil could be a global superpower if the politicians stop scratching themselves with public funds and corrupt money, and the people could band up together if they cared about anything other than Samba and soccer and their immediate desires. Edited March 19, 2020 by Azincourt 1
justwhoiam Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 That Australian guy is not very famous in the EU, but hey, there's worse, the British have Boris Johnson! He's a joke! 2
Redhead14 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, justwhoiam said: That Australian guy is not very famous in the EU, but hey, there's worse, the British have Boris Johnson! He's a joke! We have the butt of a lot of jokes . . .
simpycurious Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, justwhoiam said: That Australian guy is not very famous in the EU, but hey, there's worse, the British have Boris Johnson! He's a joke! You are a funny lady. Hope things get better in Europe sooner rather than later 1
Azincourt Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, justwhoiam said: That Australian guy is not very famous in the EU, but hey, there's worse, the British have Boris Johnson! He's a joke! Boris Johnson, the guy who promised the British people a great brexit and now they're losing billions in the long run, Scotland wants to leave the United Kingdom, and Boris wants to sell the NHS to the United States Quote We have the butt of a lot of jokes . . . Yeah, but you guys have Home and Away and Chris Hemsworth so it ain't so bad. Quote Hope things get better in Europe sooner rather than later Me too, buddy, me too. Thank you, and I hope things get better for you and your own too. Edited March 19, 2020 by Azincourt 1
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