Ellener Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, thefooloftheyear said: freeze mortgages for a set period of time 1 hour ago, thefooloftheyear said: Have the utilities suspend all charges and no shutoffs Excellent ideas.
2BGoodAgain Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Redhead14 said: Exactly, which is why someone/some country would want to bio-engineer something that targets that group and this virus kinda seems like it does that. A test gone wrong??? heh. too many movies, redhead...too many movies.
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Quote Exactly, which is why someone/some country would want to bio-engineer something that targets that group and this virus kinda seems like it does that. A test gone wrong??? Quote Arkansas Senator Stokes Debunked Conspiracy That Coronavirus Was Manufactured By Chinese Government Quote Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) later walked back his comments about the origins of the coronavirus, but the statement reflects a worrying trend of high-ranking people spreading misinformation about the outbreak. In other news on how the United States is handling the crisis: 5 cities to start testing any patients with flu-like symptoms for coronavirus, Asian-Americans continue to face unsettling weight of public scrutiny in wake of outbreak, and more. Quote The New York Times: Senator Tom Cotton Repeats Fringe Theory Of Coronavirus Origins The rumor appeared shortly after the new coronavirus struck China and spread almost as quickly: that the outbreak now afflicting people around the world had been manufactured by the Chinese government. The conspiracy theory lacks evidence and has been dismissed by scientists. But it has gained an audience with the help of well-connected critics of the Chinese government such as Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist. And on Sunday, it got its biggest public boost yet. (Stevenson, 2/17)
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, 2BGoodAgain said: heh. too many movies, redhead...too many movies. Harvard University scientist arrested 1/28.... mentioned in report - Wuhan University of Technology https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/28/politics/harvard-professor-chinese-nationals-arrest-espionage/index.html https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, 2BGoodAgain said: heh. too many movies, redhead...too many movies. Harvard University scientist arrested 1/28.... mentioned in report - Wuhan University of Technology https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/28/politics/harvard-professor-chinese-nationals-arrest-espionage/index.html https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
Ellener Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Redhead14 said: Harvard University scientist arrested 1/28 'Court documents allege Mr Lieber, who has worked as the head investigator at the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, received more than $15m (£11.5m) in grants from the US National Institute of Health and the US Department of Defence. Recipients of these grants have to disclose any conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or organisations.' & 'China says its Thousand Talents Plan is designed to keep "high-end talent" at home, in order to prevent a brain drain. The country has been losing talent to places like the US and the UK, where hundreds of thousands of Chinese attend top universities and subsequently settle down. But the US view is that China is repeating a notorious tactic in its development playbook: intellectual property theft. For decades, Washington has accused Beijing of stealing science and technology from the US in order to gain an competitive advantage. The FBI warns that the Thousand Talents Plan could be used by Beijing as a channel to conduct "non-traditional espionage", though many reported cases are not related to spying, but violations of ethics, such as not fully disclosing financial conflicts of interest.' ( source BBC 1/28/2020 )
Ellener Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Here's the link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51288854
Beendaredonedat Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ellener said: Excellent ideas. Already being done here.
major_merrick Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Warning sirens just went off. Our county is now locked down and the defense forces deployed at the barricades. Curfew is now 24-7 except for absolute essentials. My husband just left, and IDK when he will be off duty. 2
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, major_merrick said: Warning sirens just went off. Our county is now locked down and the defense forces deployed at the barricades. Curfew is now 24-7 except for absolute essentials. My husband just left, and IDK when he will be off duty. Where are you, Major Merrick?
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Quote More than 250m in lockdown in EU as Belgium and Germany adopt measures Quote Coronavirus restrictions imposed across globe as US pledges $1tn for economy Quote More than 250 million Europeans are in full or partial lockdown as Belgium and Germany joined Italy, Spain and France in closing schools and most shops, and urging – or requiring – people not to leave their homes. As the US promised a $1tn (£850bn) fightback against the economic havoc caused by the coronavirus, with cases now confirmed in all 50 states, and the EU shut its borders to travellers from outside for 30 days, draconian measures never before seen in peacetime forced huge changes on daily life. A United Nations agency warned that the pandemic would significantly increase global unemployment and risked leaving up to 25 million more people out of work as well as dramatically reducing workers’ incomes.
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 White House concerned about reports from Italy and France - Young people getting seriously ill as well https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/white-house-concerned-about-reports-from-italy-and-france-on-young-people-getting-seriously-ill/ar-BB11n7TK?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=hplocalnews
elaine567 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: White House concerned about reports from Italy and France - Young people getting seriously ill as well ...and in Belgium too.https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/100824/belgian-doctor-says-young-coronavirus-patients-are-also-getting-severely-ill/
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Maybe it's mutating and it's going to also seriously affect young people.
2BGoodAgain Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: White House concerned about reports from Italy and France - Young people getting seriously ill as well https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/white-house-concerned-about-reports-from-italy-and-france-on-young-people-getting-seriously-ill/ar-BB11n7TK?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=hplocalnews are these young folk with pre-existing conditions or perfectly healthy young folk?
Author gaius Posted March 18, 2020 Author Posted March 18, 2020 Patient 0 in Italy is in his 30's and he's just now breathing on his own after spending 2 weeks on a ventilator. There's been a significant amount of younger people getting seriously ill since the beginning but the news reports have mostly focused on the elder deaths for whatever reason. I guess since the youngins survive 2 weeks on a vent ain't a big deal. 1
Gaeta Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 The problem with the younger generation is that they don't listen. They're out and about and partying as if they were invincible. Did you see Miami? Same with France right before they called in the Army. We experience the same difficulties here, groups of young people organizing secret parties. The young generation and the older generation, both are playing rebel and not taking this seriously. 2
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gaius said: Patient 0 in Italy is in his 30's and he's just now breathing on his own after spending 2 weeks on a ventilator. There's been a significant amount of younger people getting seriously ill since the beginning but the news reports have mostly focused on the elder deaths for whatever reason. I guess since the youngins survive 2 weeks on a vent ain't a big deal. It's never really been all about the deaths of the older people, it's been about the overload on the healthcare system. So if now it's both young and old, we are screwed more than we were. Trump needs to shut this country down ASAP and get on with it. By the way, Major Merrick said her county just got shut down. Does anyone know where she's located? Edited March 18, 2020 by Redhead14 2
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gaeta said: The problem with the younger generation is that they don't listen. They're out and about and partying as if they were invincible. Did you see Miami? Same with France right before they called in the Army. We experience the same difficulties here, groups of young people organizing secret parties. The young generation and the older generation, both are playing rebel and not taking this seriously. Yeah, I know. Many of my friends who are in their early to mid 20s laughed at me when they flew over here to holiday, when they realized I'm a survivalist. Now they're infected, stuck at home with their parents and grandparents, putting their folk at great risk. Because they are dummy and kept heading out to nightclubs and bars and parties when Italy was first starting to get it's first serious cases.
pepperbird Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 For all the "look what's going on in italy!!!!" reaction, the dire predictions nave not come to pass. btw, here's something that you may not see on your news reports. One of the presumptive cases found here is now proved positive ( the presumptive tests have a VERY high false positive rate- sits over 40 percent). She;s actually feeling okay, but revealed that she got sick about a week ago, and before that, she was walking around the city, shopping, doing all the things she usually did. Just like Toronto-no huge swaths of cases, (we're still at seven-presumptive and positive) out of almost 1,000 tested in my province. Meanwhile, ORs, ERs, medical clinics are sitting empty,surgery postponed. I'm really worried about the long term affect this will have, especially as it's not really amouting to anything at all like what we were warned it would. I fully realize that may be different in other locations, but in a province with almost a million people, the highest rate per captia in the whole country of senior citizens, and only two actually positive cases, neither of which was that serious, why are we being led to believe it's something more than it is? If the virus was showing up in Toronto since late January, it's pretty hard to believe it wasn't in the USA, and many other countries since then as well-yet the actual number of proven positive cases/deaths isn't all that high. This is why I really feel a lot of the hype is being overblown.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 I'm at the office packing up my stuff and picking up some files. My cofriender is here getting plugins for her laptop from IT. We had a great talk. She's a very smart, intuitive, spiritual person, thinks this is absolutely engineered and pointed out many examples of how we've been primed for this for many years. It makes sense. Rationally, it could be or could be not. Intuitively and spiritually, I get the feeling she may be right. We agree that if what's coming is a spiritual battle, the best we can do is stay strong and shine as bright a light as possible. Dark forces run like cockroaches from the light.
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: It's never really been all about the deaths of the older people, it's been about the overload on the healthcare system. So if now it's both young and old, we are screwed more than we were. Trump needs to shut this country down ASAP and get on with it. By the way, Major Merrick said her county just got shut down. Does anyone know where she's located? The problem is that the north of Italy is much better equiped for what's going on than the South of Italy, so you have Southern Italians going all the way up north to get higher quality medical service, but there's no empty beds in the Northen hospitals and there's not enough doctors to go around. European governaments are enlisting the help of doctors who've retired from the service years ago, because they need every help they can get. Quote We agree that if what's coming is a spiritual battle, the best we can do is stay strong and shine as bright a light as possible. Dark forces run like cockroaches from the light. If only Obama was still the President. Edited March 18, 2020 by Azincourt
Gaeta Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 pepperbird: All the western countries are following the same curb as European countries, the difference is we are at the very beginning. In Quebec we started with 2 more cases a day, then 5 cases, and we are now at 25 cases a day. In a week we will count them by the 100s more a day. Hopefully because we hit the alarm button much faster than Europe we will be able to contain it meaning we still will have up to 60% of our population being infected with it but on a longer period of time so our hospital will be able to answer the demand. New Brunswick is the same as Québec 2 weeks ago.
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, pepperbird said: why are we being led to believe it's something more than it is? If the virus was showing up in Toronto since late January, it's pretty hard to believe it wasn't in the USA, and many other countries since then as well-yet the actual number of proven positive cases/deaths isn't all that high. This is why I really feel a lot of the hype is being overblown. I really believe that there is more to this than we are being made privy to. I keep saying the whole thing is sketchy. And, who is doing the overblowing? Governments are not being driven by the media, are they??? I don't think so. And, what purpose does all this serve except to cause global disruption and who does it serve if that's the case? Edited March 18, 2020 by Redhead14 1
Azincourt Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Most people will probably get infected. Germany's Chancellor predicts 70% to 80% of the Germany population to get infected. Just a matter of time, if that happens, for the same situation to occur in the North American Countries. I'm worried about Mexico. Quote I really believe that there is more to this than we are being made privy to. I keep saying the whole thing is sketchy. And, who is doing the overblowing? Governments are not being driven by the media, are they??? I don't think so. And, what purpose does all this serve except to cause global disruption and who does it serve if that's the case? What do you mean? You think this is a man-made virus created with the purpose to kill of as many westerners as possible but it backfired and it infected the Chinese population instead? Edited March 18, 2020 by Azincourt
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