thefooloftheyear Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 I know it's hard, but people just need to stay calm...Part of me thinks that a lot of people romanticize about the worst of this situation...And that perpetuates feelings of fear and despair....These are the downsides to the internet and social media... We're working....I an not in a business that involves a lot of interaction with masses of people, so for right now it is what it is...I have been on the road after the curfew the last two nights(not out partying just getting work done in my building and driving home) and so were tons of other people, so its not like anyone is enforcing anything...I am sure those folks were probably doing the same thing I was...And quite frankly thank God there are some people out there just trying to make the best of it, and not losing their minds, because if everyone falls apart, then its really gonna go to hell... Without getting dramatic, there are thousands of ways to get sick and die before this ever happened, so its not like we were all omnipotent and now we aren't...While it's important to heed advice of the professionals. I think its also good to put things in perspective as well...It's an illness...Healthy people are beating this pretty easily, from the reports out there of those that have... And I hear a lot of people talking about being stir crazy....As if they are sitting at home just winding themselves up into sheer panic and doing nothing else..My advice is don't do that...I have been spending less time watching the news and trying to stay off social media...Its working....And I have no issue with social isolation as its how I lived my life before this came around...its just another day here.. As for the virus and treatment protocols and vaccines, look at it this way.,..A vaccine or successful treatment protocol is practically priceless at this point...I have little doubt that the motivation to make that happen sooner than ever is what is happening as we speak....The brightest minds are working tirelessly on this and I have zero doubt that this will be on line sooner than everyone is led to believe..... Take care of yourselves...Eat right....Get some exercise...Listen to music you enjoy....Spring is here early and the weather is mild..Breathe some fresh air...Tune out the noise for a bit...Perhaps do some things that you have been putting off like getting your places in order and clearing out junk and things you have been meaning to get rid of but never had the time.....Once this is over, you can say that you made some positive life changes rather than wind yourselves into a frenzy, fight with crazy nut jobs at the grocery store and post a hundred links and memes about all of this.... Wishing all well TFY 2
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Agree TFY. I check the update once in the morning and once at night. I like to stay aware but I don’t need to overload so that’s my limit. Before when I was gobbling it up I could feel my chest tightening and then sent myself into a tizzy thinking my breathing was becoming labored. A simple exercise of inhaling and holding one’s breath for ten seconds can rule that out pretty quickly. People really just need to calm down. You’re right about that. I especially like your mindset of taking lemons and making lemonade. Very inspiring! Be well too, Friend. 2
FMW Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said: And I hear a lot of people talking about being stir crazy....As if they are sitting at home just winding themselves up into sheer panic and doing nothing else For me it has nothing to do with panic (about the virus) - it's about not being able to do my normal activities, not being able to socialize on a larger scale like I normally do. Some things that are really important to me are now indefinitely on hold. My daily life and activities have changed significantly and very quickly. I like/need activity and interaction with others, outside, and in public venues. Feeling stuck inside with nowhere to go actually stresses me out. Not knowing how long things will stay that way is also stressful - I'm a bit of a control freak, I like having choices and I like to plan and know what to expect. Normally I love my down time, getting to go home and shut the world out for a bit. I've always thought I needed that more than most people. But when that's ALL I can do, it's stressful. It's been an eye opening experience for me, I didn't realize that about myself. So I'm working on finding the positives in a forced break but I'll admit it's a challenge! Edited March 18, 2020 by FMW 2
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, thefooloftheyear said: Healthy people are beating this pretty easily, from the reports out there of those that have... Of course, it's all going to turn out fine for a lot of us and 14 days is nothing in the scheme of things but not being allowed to go out at all is not great. We have been told we (my kids and I) we have no choice but to stay indoors at all times by the NHS. No walks outside, no nipping to the shops, no quick coffee with a friend, nothing at all. I don't mind doing it, but I need a clear reason. The UK is not on lockdown, people still live as normal a life as possible, kids go to school and parties, there are no stringent limits, which was me only 2 days ago. But because my son has symptoms, we are in quarantine even if he may not have it. It's really not about putting things in perspective, it's just not really knowing why.
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 LittleBlackHeart, if your son’s symptoms worsen is he allowed to leave home to get medical attention? What is the protocol?
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, amaysngrace said: LittleBlackHeart, if your son’s symptoms worsen is he allowed to leave home to get medical attention? What is the protocol? The protocol is he stays at home for 7 days. That's the extent of it. If his symptoms worsen, he either stays at home longer (!!!) or he gets hospitalised and only then will he get tested. It's a completely crazy situation where asymptomatic people are walking around free, potentially putting others at risk, and anyone with common cold/flu/bronchitis is isolating with family members in quarantine for 14 days, and you'll never know why. Utterly nonsensical.
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, littleblackheart said: The protocol is he stays at home for 7 days. That's the extent of it. If his symptoms worsen, he either stays at home longer (!!!) or he gets hospitalised and only then will he get tested. It's a completely crazy situation where asymptomatic people are walking around free, potentially putting others at risk, and anyone with common cold/flu/bronchitis is isolating with family members in quarantine for 14 days, and you'll never know why. Utterly nonsensical.
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 I think it could be to keep hospitals clear of incidentals so they can offer assistance to those with life threatening situations but idk. If he’s exhibiting those symptoms he shouldn’t be spreading germs around regardless of a pandemic. To me it makes sense. 1
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) It makes sense that he's at home and not spreading germs. I don't want him in hospital anyway - it wouldn't be justified or warranted (not enough resources, as you say). It doesn't make sense that we need to stay indoors when he might not have it (or he might, who knows) when the rest of the UK is neither on lockdown nor under stringent rules. So someone who does have it and is asymptomatic can pass it around still. That's not logical. That's why only the UK is following this protocol. Basically, my point is more people should be tested if this herd immunisation thing is to have any practical effect. Edited March 18, 2020 by littleblackheart 1
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 There aren’t enough tests to waste them when people can just self-quarantine for a week or two.
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, littleblackheart said: It doesn't make sense that we need to stay indoors when he might not have it (or he might, who knows) when the rest of the UK is neither on lockdown nor under stringent rules. So someone who does have it and is asymptomatic can pass it around still. Yes, it does make sense because he has "something" no one knows if it is or isn't corona, so ample caution is being applied just in case and just because the rest of the country is being stupid by not taking more stringent steps, you're keeping yourselves safer anyway. Edited March 18, 2020 by Redhead14 2
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: There aren’t enough tests to waste them when people can just self-quarantine for a week or two. Yes, I get that. That is my (and WHO) whole point. Most countries have taken measures to ensure people stay in confinement at a minimum. Not in the UK. So either everyone should stay at home, or more people should get tested. I'm not moaning about my personal situation - I'm just saying I'm not understanding the logic of the UK gvt. Edited March 18, 2020 by littleblackheart 1
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Your government will tamp down. It’s just a matter of days as testing becomes more available, I’m sure.
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: Yes, it does make sense because he has "something" no one knows if it is or isn't corona, so ample caution is being applied just in case and just because the rest of the country is being stupid by not taking more stringent steps, you're keeping yourselves safer anyway. You're missing my point. Never mind.
Gaeta Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 On the news last night about UK what I understood your country decided to apply a different phylosophy then the rest of the world. The phylosophy that more people are exposed to the virus then more people will develop an immunity. The government’s earlier hopes that it could rely on large proportions – maybe 60% – of the population getting ill, getting better and becoming immune to build up some herd immunity in the UK population – something many experts thought was dangerous. 1
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, amaysngrace said: Your government will tamp down. It’s just a matter of days as testing becomes more available, I’m sure. It's a dangerous strategy that is putting too many people at risk. This virus is super contagious so 'a matter of days' can be lethal. I find this bewilderingly irresponsible, personally. 2
Redhead14 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, littleblackheart said: You're missing my point. Never mind. I don't understand the UK's logic either. Every country will have to shut down at some point, I'm betting. I don't get why we don't just do that and get it over with sooner than later. Some people feel like like its about Trump and his re-election chances, etc. Edited March 18, 2020 by Redhead14 1
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Yes we’ve dealt with that as well. Inefficient leadership. But you can’t change it today so stewing about it is only going to cause stress and stress lowers your resistance. Try to practice gratitude is my best advice. 1
Ellener Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, littleblackheart said: I can see myself losing my mind over having to stay home without even taking a walk for another 13 days. Do some yoga. 1
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Redhead14 said: I don't understand the UK's logic either It's mad. Herd immunisation on principle can work but 1.we don't enough about the virus 2. There is no vaccine 3. Not enough people are being tested to verify the theory. What's the point of herd immunisation if you don't actually know who has it? 4. This will cause psychological damage long-term. 3
amaysngrace Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Don’t fall apart on us LBH. This too shall pass. 1
Ellener Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: This too shall pass. 1
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, amaysngrace said: Don’t fall apart on us LBH. This too shall pass. Don't worry, I'm only venting :). I work from home and have a sick 13yo boy (you know what means...) and emotional 10yo who already misses friends - not the best day so far...
sothereiwas Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: This too shall pass. I guess that explains the TP situation. 1
littleblackheart Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: Try to practice gratitude is my best advice. I am grateful to this forum for allowing me to vent, then peacefully going about my day with my kids like nothing's going on. How does that sound? 3
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