RecentChange Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: We now have a state-wide curfew - 8pm to 5am, schools closed, etc. No curfew yet in CA, but all schools, libraries etc are closed. I have to say - I don't really understand a curfew though. Ban public gatherings all together. The virus doesn't care about time of day.
Ellener Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just up: 'Coronavirus, how to protect your mental health': https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51873799
Redhead14 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RecentChange said: No curfew yet in CA, but all schools, libraries etc are closed. I have to say - I don't really understand a curfew though. Ban public gatherings all together. The virus doesn't care about time of day. It's about grooming and preparing people mentally for bigger steps, IMO. Ya know, like we aren't quite ready to declare martial law but just so you get kinda used to that possibility and the change, we will do Xthing for now. Edited March 16, 2020 by Redhead14 2
Ellener Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Re.'Coronavirus, how to protect your mental health' ( link awaiting approval ) I'd add- avoid alcohol, caffeine for anxiety.
Inflikted Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ellener said: Experts say it will still take many months to know if this vaccine, or others also in research, will work. Scientists around the world are fast-tracking research.' Yeah, that's the thing, even with talk of "fast tracking", you can't actually know longer term effects without observing it for a long period of time. Like, what if the initial "rushed" vaccine works, but then it comes out that, several months later, the vaccine causes some horrible effect to those who received it? So, no matter what, I imagine it's going to take time, even with talks of "fast tracking" and stuff. I forgot to add, too, I'm now paranoid about even eating lunch and stuff, because I don't have, like, a LOT of stuff to get me through more than a week or two, and I'm trying to limit how much I go shopping for now, with everything, so I'm kinda sitting here hungry. @_@
RecentChange Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellener said: Re.'Coronavirus, how to protect your mental health' ( link awaiting approval ) I'd add- avoid alcohol, caffeine for anxiety. I have to admit, I luckily at this point do not have much anxiety. My parents are somewhere it should be safe, and are self isolating as recommended (except for dog walks and horse back riding! - but those do not involve being around people). I am prepared for the good possibility that my husband could lose his job - this is going to be a big hit beer industry. We have a cushion to fall on and will be fine if that happens. My freezer is stocked, as is my pantry. I have my work from home station set up. We are ready for this. 3
Happy Lemming Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: New Jersey Thanks... my girlfriend has some "old friends" in New Jersey. She is going to call them and see how they are doing.
Els Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: Too bad the healthcare system in the US is so poor, or we'd already have a vaccine like the rest of the world doe... what? Oh, nevermind. I don't think most people think that the quality of healthcare in the US is genuinely terrible - the main issue from what I can see is simply that it's inaccessible to a lot of people. Also, research & development isn't really relevant to healthcare quality - two completely different systems. 1
sothereiwas Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Elswyth said: I don't think most people think that the quality of healthcare in the US is genuinely terrible - the main issue from what I can see is simply that it's inaccessible to a lot of people. Which people? What care? If people show up, they have to be treated. If they don't pay, there are no real teeth to make them pay. So what care is inaccessible?
Els Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, RecentChange said: I have to admit, I luckily at this point do not have much anxiety. My parents are somewhere it should be safe, and are self isolating as recommended (except for dog walks and horse back riding! - but those do not involve being around people). I am prepared for the good possibility that my husband could lose his job - this is going to be a big hit beer industry. We have a cushion to fall on and will be fine if that happens. My freezer is stocked, as is my pantry. I have my work from home station set up. We are ready for this. The main effect on H and I, personally, is the travel restrictions, closures, and shortage of supplies. I think that globally, there will be a huge economic recession and a lot of combined suffering, though. I'm also avoiding large gatherings for this reason - at my age and with my lack of medical conditions I will almost certainly survive the virus, but other people won't, and I REALLY don't want to be responsible for someone's grandmother or cancer-stricken husband or pregnant wife dying. 1
Happy Lemming Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, RecentChange said: - this is going to be a big hit beer industry. I did my part... I stocked up on beer!! Kidding aside... hope all goes well for your husband. 1
Redhead14 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Happy Lemming said: I did my part... I stocked up on beer!! Kidding aside... hope all goes well for your husband. Corona beer, I hope, and limes or lime juice at least . . . Edited March 16, 2020 by Redhead14
RecentChange Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: Which people? What care? If people show up, they have to be treated. If they don't pay, there are no real teeth to make them pay. So what care is inaccessible? And if they don't pay it goes on their credit report, and they can't qualify to rent housing... And could end up homeless. If they don't pay they can come under a court ordered judgment and have their assets seized or income garnished. There is a reason why medical bills are the most common reason for bankruptcy in this country. Sure they can get treatment - but it might completely ruin them financially for many years, cause homelessness etc. 2 1
sothereiwas Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, RecentChange said: I have to admit, I luckily at this point do not have much anxiety. My parents are somewhere it should be safe, and are self isolating as recommended (except for dog walks and horse back riding! - but those do not involve being around people). I am prepared for the good possibility that my husband could lose his job - this is going to be a big hit beer industry. We have a cushion to fall on and will be fine if that happens. My freezer is stocked, as is my pantry. I have my work from home station set up. We are ready for this. Being prepared is a fiction, snap out of it Just kidding, good job, citizen. 1
RecentChange Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Happy Lemming said: I did my part... I stocked up on beer!! Kidding aside... hope all goes well for your husband. Just now, RecentChange said: Just now, Redhead14 said: Corona beer, I hope, and limes or lime juice at least . . . Nooo... Don't support the mega corps! It's the small, independent, family owned breweries that are seeing their customers close their doors, and they themselves are being forced to close their tap rooms etc that need support.
Redhead14 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RecentChange said: And if they don't pay it goes on their credit report, and they can't qualify to rent housing... And could end up homeless. If they don't pay they can come under a court ordered judgment and have their assets seized or income garnished. There is a reason why medical bills are the most common reason for bankruptcy in this country. Sure they can get treatment - but it might completely ruin them financially for many years, cause homelessness etc. Again, it comes down to the exorbitant costs for medical care and meds, etc. $12 aspirins, paleeze. Most people would be more than willing to pay for their care if it weren't so over the top. And, I don't care what anyone says, Obamacare doesn't really make it all that affordable for many people. For some hard working people $250 per month is too much. And, if they ever get any kind of a raise, the supplement from the government is decreased. It's a car payment and they have insurance but can't get to work. The system is a mess Period. Edited March 16, 2020 by Redhead14 2
sothereiwas Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, RecentChange said: There is a reason why medical bills are the most common reason for bankruptcy in this country. Yes, measurement error: "our findings suggest that medical factors play a much smaller role in causing U.S. bankruptcies than has previously been claimed. Overemphasizing “medical bankruptcies” may distract from understanding the true nature of economic hardship arising from high-cost health problems." - Study Summary Prior to Barry wanting to pass his landmark care-ruining legislation it was generally accepted that family law was the top proximate cause of people going bankrupt, and that's probably still true. 6 minutes ago, RecentChange said: Sure they can get treatment Yup, I know.
sothereiwas Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: $12 aspirins, paleeze. Simply allowing Americans to buy the meds then need OTC from Walgreens or from overseas pharmacies would reduce this cost by a massive amount. Just that one change.
Redhead14 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: Simply allowing Americans to buy the meds then need OTC from Walgreens or from overseas pharmacies would reduce this cost by a massive amount. Just that one change. That will never happen. Pharmacies, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies are in bed with each other and greed runs them all. And, doctors are helping them in some cases. Scheduling unnecessary procedures because insurance will pay them for it and/or not scheduling needed procedures because insurance won't pay them for it. It's all BS. Edited March 16, 2020 by Redhead14 3 1
Happy Lemming Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Redhead14 said: Corona beer, I hope, and limes or lime juice at least . . . No... Keystone Light was on sale, so I purchased plenty of it. 1
sothereiwas Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Redhead14 said: That will never happen. Pharmacies, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies are in bed with each other and greed runs them all. That's true. At the very least it would be difficult, and probably practically impossible, but we should still try to make it happen.
sothereiwas Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/addybaird/mitt-romney-1000-dollars-coronavirus-yang-ubi Quote As the coronavirus pandemic continues to hit the US, people nationwide are being encouraged to stay inside their homes and states and cities are beginning to close restaurants, bars, and other businesses. Utah Sen. Mitt Romney has a plan he thinks can help: Give every adult in the US $1,000. “Every American adult should immediately receive $1,000 to help ensure families and workers can meet their short-term obligations and increase spending in the economy,” a press release from Romney said Monday. “Congress took similar action during the 2001 and 2008 recessions. While expansions of paid leave, unemployment insurance, and SNAP benefits [the program formally known as food stamps] are crucial, the check will help fill the gaps for Americans that may not quickly navigate different government options.”
LivingWaterPlease Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ruby Slippers said: A little bit of good news from my neck of the woods: my new employer contacted me this morning said my federal background check cleared, and we set my start date for my new job! They're currently not working from home, but I made sure that if they go to remote work, I would do the same as a new employee - to make sure I wouldn't have any gap between jobs / pay. Then they sent me the notice via email and I sent my resignation letter to my boss. It's official! I've been focusing on, writing down, visualizing, and trying to manifest this job and salary for years, and now it's real! It's meaningful humanitarian work that I believe in and will feel good about doing every day, with an awesome salary that will be life-changing for me. Truly a dream come true My immediate concerns are minor - I was planning to give myself a major wardrobe upgrade in preparation for this new, fairly prominent leadership position, wondering how I'll pull that off with so many places closed. Hopefully online shopping will save me. But this is a trifling concern in the grand scheme. I did it! I got my dream job and my dream salary!! Fantastic, Ruby! SO happy for you! 1
Ruby Slippers Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, LivingWaterPlease said: Fantastic, Ruby! SO happy for you! Thank you, sweetheart! It is odd timing. But I just ordered my first cute new outfit online. I've been so very frugal for so long trying to get ahead and build some financial fortitude, came from basically nothing and have worked my butt off to get here. I'm going to stay frugal and keep working my big plan - and hopefully be in a much stronger position to help less fortunate people very soon! But right now, I definitely need some new threads for my new position, and it'll be fun to splash out just a little in preparation for a whole new chapter in life 2
simpycurious Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 A bit of good news Ruby. I think that everyone can use some about now. Starting to hear about restaurants closing down to inside dining but still offering take out. I am glad that I have a lot of outside hobbies because boredom is a distinct possibility right now. 1 1
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