sothereiwas Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Be careful people, COVID-19 isn't the only thing you can get this flu season: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/03/live-coronavirus-map-used-to-spread-malware/ 1
carhill Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Timeline slider on map is interesting to play with.... ETA, it's published by the Ventura County Star, a USA Today affiliate in SoCal. Edited March 13, 2020 by carhill 1
Ruby Slippers Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 My boyfriend and I are both working remotely next week. The government agency where I'll soon start a new job got in touch and said my federal background check is 99% complete and I'll hopefully soon be cleared to start there in the next few weeks. They're still working in the office. This is good news for me, as once I start I'll be getting a huge raise
LivingWaterPlease Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Gaeta said: And you accuse me of misinformation.....If there was something killing viruses the pharmaceutical industry would be all over it making billions in profit. I know, I work in the pharm industry. Gaeta, I already answered this post but want to apologize in that I wasn't accusing you, though I agree it could have been taken that way and I'm not offended that it seems to me, you did take it that way. My intent was to let you know you've been misinformed. IOW, it's misinformation but not originating with you. I realize you're just posting what you've been told and understand to be the truth.
LivingWaterPlease Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, GoreSP said: Right? I bet most pharmaceutical companies would jump at the chance of being the ones who created a medication that kills viruses like HIV, hepres, HPV just for the renoun. Also creating something that people can take to kill a flu means TONS of money. Aren't most medications derived from a «natural» or herbal source anyways? They would for sure. They'd face litigation, though, if they tried to copy this formula, as it IS a formula. However, it's all herbal. Besides that, since this company already makes it, what would they gain? They'd put out millions of dollars to run tests while this company continues to to sell the product. Then they'd face litigation. They may win, I don't know, but it's probably not worth the trouble. Also, they couldn't keep it from other pharmaceutical companies since it's an all natural product. I don't believe you can patent anything that grows naturally. So, again, they'd spend lots of money on something they couldn't keep the patent on. Speaking of medications being derived from an herbal source, Valium is made from valerian root. Except valerian root is non addictive. I take valerian root powder once in a while when I can't sleep. Passion flower has a similar affect and usage. I was badly scarred by pharmaceuticals prescribed by a Dr. ten years ago. I went to between five and ten Drs. looking for help but the only thing they had to offer was more pharmaceuticals. My close relative, being high level in the pharmaceutical industry told me several different times during the ordeal, "Every time you take a prescription pill, you're an experiment. Because prescriptions act differently on everyone." I asked this person, "So how can you do what you do by being involved in pharmaceuticals." The answer was, "There will always be people who won't go to the effort to learn to take care of themselves naturally. Meds are for these people. Good answer so I am not against people taking many of the meds available (can't get behind all of them). I believe some of the medications out there are beneficial to many people. Btw, this relative who is in the pharmaceutical industry has a bottle of the herbal antiviral formula on hand for family if it should be needed during this time or a later date.
thefooloftheyear Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Amethyst68 said: I must admit I'm curious to see how this all plays out in places like the US where medical insurance seems to decide who gets what treatment. What happens to the poor who have basic cover or no insurance at all. What happens to the poor here? They show up in the ER, get treated, sometimes better than those paying insurance, then they just don't bother paying the bills...Or, if they have half a conscience, they make a deal with the providers for pennies on the dollar.... Disregard the nonsense you are hearing/reading because that's what normally happens.. TFY 2 2
littleblackheart Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, LivingWaterPlease said: However, these are very high risk folks who are also at high risk for the regular flu. There were over 10,000 people killed in the flu season of 2019-2020 that supposedly is now past There are also millions of people affected by civil wars, economic sanctions, famine, malaria, ebola, austerity, cancer, heart attacks, etc. Moral of the story?When you can afford to look after those around you, it should be a no-brainer (imo). Btw, how nice to see all these 'commie' countries lending a hand to others (Cuba to China, China to Italy) Edited March 13, 2020 by a LoveShack.org Moderator 1
RecentChange Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Inflikted said: Man, this stuff is bringing out the old hypochondriac in me... Like, within the last hour, I started feeling a little tickle in my throat that's occasionally making me cough, and I have what feels like a very mild pressure headache in my forehead, and now I'm wondering, do I have it? How would I have contracted it? My allergies have been terrible right now, and I know other people in the same boat. Fever is one of the most common symptoms and is a sign your body is fighting an infection. For peace of mind I have started taking my temperature twice a day It's good to know what your base line vitals are, and to monitor them. This is veterinary basics - anytime there is a virus outbreak among horses for example, it's standard procedure to take temps daily and immediately quarantine any animals that run a fever. I wonder why this isn't being suggested for people. Meanwhile all gatherings of over 100 have been banned in my county, this includes restaurants etc but not grocery stores. All gatherings of 35-100 are banned unless they meet certain criteria, like prohibiting elderly and at risk. This is going to hint the service industry hard - effectively all venues that host over 35 people have to close for 3 weeks 1 1
simpycurious Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, RecentChange said: My allergies have been terrible right now, and I know other people in the same boat. Fever is one of the most common symptoms and is a sign your body is fighting an infection. For peace of mind I have started taking my temperature twice a day It's good to know what your base line vitals are, and to monitor them. This is veterinary basics - anytime there is a virus outbreak among horses for example, it's standard procedure to take temps daily and immediately quarantine any animals that run a fever. I wonder why this isn't being suggested for people. Meanwhile all gatherings of over 100 have been banned in my county, this includes restaurants etc but not grocery stores. All gatherings of 35-100 are banned unless they meet certain criteria, like prohibiting elderly and at risk. This is going to hint the service industry hard - effectively all venues that host over 35 people have to close for 3 weeks This is heart breaking and makes me sad. I am so sorry Recent. I hope you will be prudent and take care of yourself. You are welcome at the beach. Hopefully, it's nothing severe 1
RecentChange Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, simpycurious said: This is heart breaking and makes me sad. I am so sorry Recent. I hope you will be prudent and take care of yourself. You are welcome at the beach. Hopefully, it's nothing severe I am not terribly concerned about myself. I am taking precautions, changed my work routine, and I so very rarely come down with colds or flus so I am optimistic (I got the flu once in 2010, not before nor since). More concerned about people like my parents - healthy but in their late 70's. My step mom usually visits her 97 year old mother who lives in a senior community daily - but their county has banned all outside visitors to skilled nursing facilities. Grandma lives in an apartment, but it's on the same grounds as the nursing facility - so no visitation 1
simpycurious Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Yes, the older people seem to be more at risk. Don't a chance yourself, Please take precautions if you start to feel poorly. I am hoping that the virus does not like sand and salt water but that 's just a HOPE... 1
Inflikted Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, RecentChange said: My allergies have been terrible right now, and I know other people in the same boat. Fever is one of the most common symptoms and is a sign your body is fighting an infection. Yeah, I'm guessing my allergies are just getting worked up. I haven't actually taken my temperature (not sure I have a thermometer at all, hm...), but I don't believe I'm feverish. 1
RecentChange Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inflikted said: Yeah, I'm guessing my allergies are just getting worked up. I haven't actually taken my temperature (not sure I have a thermometer at all, hm...), but I don't believe I'm feverish. For peace of mind, might want to pick one up. Good thing to have in the house (along with a good basic first aid kit including Benadryl). If not for this, in case you do come down with a regular ol' flu one day, or any other type of infection. It's critical to know if a fever is high, as a high fever is an emergency situation (Benadryl is a must to keep on hand for potential allergic reactions - quitlck adminstration can make the difference in air way reaction situations).
Gaeta Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Ironic that our government said no get together with above 250 people, then costcos are raid by 1000+ people, bumping into each other, touching carts that have been touched by 100s of people then touching their face, yelling at each other spitting their germs in the air....amazing!
RecentChange Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gaeta said: Ironic that our government said no get together with above 250 people, then costcos are raid by 1000+ people, bumping into each other, touching carts that have been touched by 100s of people then touching their face, yelling at each other spitting their germs in the air....amazing! There is a video today circulating of a fist fight over some toilet paper. People have lost their minds. Costco locally had a line wrapping the parking lot before they opened, and despite literally unloading a semi trailer worth - they ran out of TP before everyone got in. According to my coworker pandemonium ensued. She said she left and went to Target who had a large supply of TP. Bless her for getting a large pack for me. At this rate I was going to have to make my 6 rolls last till the end of the pandemic 1
Woggle Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 My wife directly confronted a woman testing out lipstick on her hand then putting it back on the shelf at the pharmacy. She told her that she could infect the entire store and the women looked embarrassed and just a walked away. I told her she was 100% right but people are crazy and she should have just told an employee who would have removed the tube off the shelf and dealt with the situation. Was it the right thing for her to confront her? 2
Gaeta Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Woggle said: Was it the right thing for her to confront her? Yes, I am the type of person that would have said something, but you've got to be careful that you don't run into some nut that will lash at you. This morning I came across a woman smuggling toilet paper out of the office where she works lol
simpycurious Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, RecentChange said: There is a video today circulating of a fist fight over some toilet paper. People have lost their minds. Costco locally had a line wrapping the parking lot before they opened, and despite literally unloading a semi trailer worth - they ran out of TP before everyone got in. According to my coworker pandemonium ensued. She said she left and went to Target who had a large supply of TP. Bless her for getting a large pack for me. At this rate I was going to have to make my 6 rolls last till the end of the pandemic Sadly, you are right (people losing their minds) and I fear it's getting worse as the days go by. Beach Bound is the way to go 1
ufo8mycat Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 A question for my US friends, how do you get access to testing? Is it provided by public health authorities or is it an insurance thing? I am just wondering if cost might prevent anyone from getting tested? Here, if you have a sniffle you can trot over to your local COVID_19 ED, pop on a mask and get tested. No cost. The ICU’s are getting reading for increased pneumonia admissions etc, so if you need supportive treatment that is also no cost. How does it work elsewhere?
Woggle Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, ufo8mycat said: A question for my US friends, how do you get access to testing? Is it provided by public health authorities or is it an insurance thing? I am just wondering if cost might prevent anyone from getting tested? Here, if you have a sniffle you can trot over to your local COVID_19 ED, pop on a mask and get tested. No cost. The ICU’s are getting reading for increased pneumonia admissions etc, so if you need supportive treatment that is also no cost. How does it work elsewhere? We have to first find it then find out if our insurance will cover it though being in California we should have something set up very soon. 1
sothereiwas Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, ufo8mycat said: A question for my US friends, how do you get access to testing? Our primary care will see us and determine if we need to get tested. 1
RecentChange Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, ufo8mycat said: A question for my US friends, how do you get access to testing? Is it provided by public health authorities or is it an insurance thing? I am just wondering if cost might prevent anyone from getting tested? Here, if you have a sniffle you can trot over to your local COVID_19 ED, pop on a mask and get tested. No cost. The ICU’s are getting reading for increased pneumonia admissions etc, so if you need supportive treatment that is also no cost. How does it work elsewhere? There are current mandates coming down to eliminate costs for individuals to get tested and treatment. In CA they mandated that fees be waived, and I know that Congress and the president are pushing to make this happen country wide. 1 1
RecentChange Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, sothereiwas said: Our primary care will see us and determine if we need to get tested. Depends on location. Kaiser just set up a drive through testing center in my city. 1 1
sothereiwas Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RecentChange said: Depends on location. Kaiser just set up a drive through testing center in my city. I was just speaking for myself and my family.
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, ufo8mycat said: A question for my US friends, how do you get access to testing? Is it provided by public health authorities or is it an insurance thing? I am just wondering if cost might prevent anyone from getting tested? Good questions. I wonder about needing a prescription for it if/when these mobile testing spots are set up. I don't have insurance so it would be nice to just be able to go get tested if I wanted to and just pay once (if at all). Having to pay for a primary care visit just to give me permission to get tested would annoy me.
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