SincereOnlineGuy Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 You won't need "a few weeks" to witness the difference. Memorial Day alone has already produced a discernible spike in "new Covid cases" in some places.
chillii Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Craziest damn thing on the planet. l mean you guys are in the middle of a pandemic with the highest numbers in the world, economy's and business will also be going down or suffering for years , yet they're all out there destroying livelihoods and tripling the covid rate which will probably lead to 1000s more people dying as well. Seem some dumb things over the years but all that takes the cake, and there'll probably be dozens of people killed in the riots themselves too. Edited June 2, 2020 by chillii 2
QuietRiot Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 12:20 PM, BC1980 said: 250 people were layed off from one of our local hospitals due to decreased revenue. This is our medical center in the state, and they have taken the brunt of COVID patients. Consequently, they haven't been able to open back up for elective procedures to the extent private hospitals have. Even some physicians were laid off, which surprised me. I'm not sure what's going to happen at my private hospital. We are pretty much completely opened back up for elective surgeries. We opened up an extra floor for COVID patients, so were down some staff. Because my floor is opened back up for surgeries and the like, I'm thinking my days of working on the COVID unit are over for now. Just curious, those 250 that were laid off...I'm betting when the hospitals shifted their efforts to focus on Covid that the first thing they asked those 250 employees is to join in the battle...and I'm guessing they refused, and thusly, were laid off. Am I correct?
Ellener Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, QuietRiot said: Just curious, those 250 that were laid off...I'm betting when the hospitals shifted their efforts to focus on Covid that the first thing they asked those 250 employees is to join in the battle...and I'm guessing they refused, and thusly, were laid off. Am I correct? No. 1.4 million healthcare workers have been laid off since the crisis, it's due to lost revenue. The pandemic may have kept some health facilities busy but also many areas of medical practice have ground to a standstill.
clia Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, QuietRiot said: Just curious, those 250 that were laid off...I'm betting when the hospitals shifted their efforts to focus on Covid that the first thing they asked those 250 employees is to join in the battle...and I'm guessing they refused, and thusly, were laid off. Am I correct? In many places, there has been no "battle." The predicted surge never came. And for places where there briefly was a "battle" back in March, it has been slow going for weeks.
schlumpy Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 7 hours ago, chillii said: Craziest damn thing on the planet. l mean you guys are in the middle of a pandemic with the highest numbers in the world, economy's and business will also be going down or suffering for years , yet they're all out there destroying livelihoods and tripling the covid rate which will probably lead to 1000s more people dying as well. Seem some dumb things over the years but all that takes the cake, and there'll probably be dozens of people killed in the riots themselves too. Yes, it's a sterling example of people living in the moment and the "What the hell, I won't live past the age 35 anyway" crowd.
BC1980 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 3 hours ago, QuietRiot said: Just curious, those 250 that were laid off...I'm betting when the hospitals shifted their efforts to focus on Covid that the first thing they asked those 250 employees is to join in the battle...and I'm guessing they refused, and thusly, were laid off. Am I correct? No, it was nothing like that. The hospital lost a lot of revenue because they couldn't perform procedures and surgeries. The hospital laid off nurse practitioners, PAs, physicians, dieticians, IT workers, ect.
BC1980 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 What has happened to health care workers is a really bitter irony. We all did what we were asked by clearing out hospitals, and our reward for that was to have pay cut, hours cut, no raises this year, or get laid off. The even worse part is those that got laid off lost health insurance. 2
amaysngrace Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Nurses are in demand in many areas. All it takes is a temp license in any state and you’re gold. My daughter went back to work last night after her 14 day quarantine. Her floor is now the covid unit because surgeries picked up again. She didn’t need to re-test. Once 14 days pass it’s assumed you’re negative. She stayed asymptomatic the whole time. Her highest temp was 99 F and they aren’t considering it a fever below 100, thank goodness. Edited June 2, 2020 by amaysngrace
BC1980 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) Hospitals don't USUALLY lay of bedside nurses because there is always a chronic shortage of RNs who want to work in this role.The RNs that were furloughed or layed off due to COVID mainly worked in clinics and procedural areas. The healthcare workers most at risk for layoffs are midlevels (PAs and NPs) and ancillary staff (secretaries, CNAs, phlebotomists). I can do the work of a secretary, CNA, or phlebotomist, but they can't do my job. An MD can do the work of a midlevel, but a midlevel can't do an MD's job. I'm in a better position because I work in a private hospital. Those kinds of hospitals have big stock portfolios and can ramp up a lot of procedures to funnel in revenue. Rural hospitals and academic medical centers aren't in the same boat. Still, it hits us in other ways. My hospital is temporarily doing away with the night and weekend shift differentials (extra money paid to work those shifts), and we aren't getting our usual raise this year. Many have had ours cut. Edited June 2, 2020 by BC1980
preraph Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) I told you guys how people in Dallas have been largely disregarding social distancing and masks here, now for about 3 weeks or more. We already had one spike, and today, it is the highest ever in cases as well as deaths. 257 new cases, 19 deaths. That's huge. I'm never going to be able to leave home and now very scared to finish that crown at my dentist. Edited June 2, 2020 by preraph 1 3
sothereiwas Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, preraph said: told you guys how people in Dallas have been largely disregarding social distancing and masks here, now for about 3 weeks or more. We already had one spike, and today, it is the highest ever in cases as well as deaths. 257 new cases, 19 deaths. That's huge. I'm never going to be able to leave home and now very scared to finish that crown at my dentist. Based on news coverage, I conclude that riots cured COVID-19 4
preraph Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 I wish. I kind of hoped the hotter weather would, but it needs solar and humidity and it's dry right now. I'm too big a risk to take any chances I don't have to. 1
elaine567 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, preraph said: I wish. I kind of hoped the hotter weather would, but it needs solar and humidity and it's dry right now. I'm too big a risk to take any chances I don't have to. Do you take Vit D?
preraph Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Yes I'm on vitamin d the last few years plus I drink a ton of milk. 2
schlumpy Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Cut the grass yesterday. I dropped off my library book. I can't imagine what the fine would have been if they had not renewed all books till the end of June. I tried to bluff my wife into returning hers by accusing her of stealing them but she ignored me. Library is still not open but you can order a book and they bring it out to you. Traffic is back to normal. The customer load at Petco seemed normal as it also did at Target. I would guess only fifty percent of people were wearing masks. Lots of skin showing. Filled up the car at seventy-five cents a gallon. Went to Pet People for some cat dry food. Giant Eagle looked pretty normal. Did I ever mention that they have the best chocolate milk outside of Borden. I talked with the young lady named Bobby behind the register and she eagerly told me about how she would be going to the University this fall. I just nodded. We shall see.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 8 hours ago, BC1980 said: What has happened to health care workers is a really bitter irony. We all did what we were asked by clearing out hospitals, and our reward for that was to have pay cut, hours cut, no raises this year, or get laid off. The even worse part is those that got laid off lost health insurance. This perfectly showcases the moral bankruptcy and total injustice of the for-profit health care system. But I have a feeling that in the long run, health care workers will be just fine. You all provide services that people are always going to need. I hope what happens is that health care workers learn which hospitals and health care-related companies are the good ones and which are the bad ones, and learn to avoid the bad ones once hiring picks up again.
BC1980 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 I agree. The fact that we have health insurance attached to our jobs is ridiculous. Nothing will change though. We've gone so far down the rabbit hole with healthcare that I don't see it changing. The dysfunction will just become more ingrained. In other news, all the ICUs in my city and the city 1.5 hours away are on diversion, which means they have no beds. 1
sothereiwas Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, BC1980 said: The fact that we have health insurance attached to our jobs is ridiculous. That I actually agree with, but probably not how you meant it.
QuietRiot Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 10 hours ago, BC1980 said: No, it was nothing like that. The hospital lost a lot of revenue because they couldn't perform procedures and surgeries. The hospital laid off nurse practitioners, PAs, physicians, dieticians, IT workers, ect. The thing is, they probably won't have problem finding work elsewhere, again. After all, it's the medical field.
QuietRiot Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, BC1980 said: I agree. The fact that we have health insurance attached to our jobs is ridiculous. Nothing will change though. We've gone so far down the rabbit hole with healthcare that I don't see it changing. The dysfunction will just become more ingrained. In other news, all the ICUs in my city and the city 1.5 hours away are on diversion, which means they have no beds. While in my area...there's this one hospital that touts itself as "Covid free" on their sponsored page. Of course, it's a more suburban area outside of any major city, but....still well populated regardless.
SincereOnlineGuy Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 5 hours ago, sothereiwas said: Based on news coverage, I conclude that riots cured COVID-19 No, but in time Covid might cure the riots
BC1980 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: That I actually agree with, but probably not how you meant it. I think this is actually an issue where the country can find common ground. 1
BC1980 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, QuietRiot said: While in my area...there's this one hospital that touts itself as "Covid free" on their sponsored page. Of course, it's a more suburban area outside of any major city, but....still well populated regardless. These days, "COVID free" would be a good slogan for an assisted living facility or a nursing home.
sothereiwas Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, BC1980 said: I think this is actually an issue where the country can find common ground. Well, I think it's ridiculous that health insurance is a mandated part of a full time employment contract.
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