carhill Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 So far, only 48 deaths in my state as reported through Worldometer and my county has only received one more active case in the last week, pushing the total active cases in the county to......12. No deaths. Most of the deaths are up in the Portland area. Other than the economic devastation, nothingburger. Crime is still low, air is still fresh, main plus with lockdown is no Portlanders or Salemites bringing their beach buggies to their vacation homes at the beach. It's quiet. Usually Easter is pretty busy at the beach, especially with the good weather right now. So far no signs of stimulus package payments, fellow business owners with employees have reported numerous snags/delays with PPP and recovery grants/loans, and sole proprietors have had mixed success with expanded UI coverage. Unemployment numbers are breathtaking, no doubt tax revenues are way down and people facing weeks to months of this, if we are to believe what's on the news, won't be paying taxes or bills simply due to lack of money. No sense in bankrupting oneself into the maw of a government-mandated op. They get to share the pain too.
carhill Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 A couple links: The map I use as a control to track things, I like the timeline slider to watch progression: https://data.vcstar.com/coronavirus/ Article from Cambridge University on -19: https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/covid-19-genetic-network-analysis-provides-snapshot-of-pandemic-origins
schlumpy Posted April 14, 2020 Posted April 14, 2020 When everything else lets you down you can always count on human nature coming through. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241920656.html
underpants Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 best way to be tested. Cough on a rich person. We should all stay home and be safe...however, Plan B 1
Author gaius Posted April 15, 2020 Author Posted April 15, 2020 I'm getting a little annoyed with the constant crowing about how you shouldn't have an N95 mask if you're not a healthcare worker. I bought one for each member of my household back in January and wear mine when I'm on the road for work and interacting with people. With the amount I still have to travel I could easily turn into a super spreader if I'm not careful and have managed to stretch out the use of one mask for almost a month now. But until healthcare workers have enough masks to change after each patient everyone else should be out of luck apparently. And I'm sure if I donate my 4 the hospital will waive the bill if anyone in my family gets sick. That's a one way street if I've ever heard of one. 2
Ellener Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 6 hours ago, schlumpy said: When everything else lets you down you can always count on human nature coming through. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-52232385/coronavirus-dear-class-of-2020-video-shares-graduating-seniors-messages There's plenty of good in the world Good luck Classes of 2020!
justwhoiam Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/10/2020 at 6:05 AM, gaius said: Meanwhile in New York, which is currently in the midst of a major outbreak, the subway is packed like a cattle car, you're not required to wear a mask nor have your temperature taken. And anyone riding that subway is free to leave New York at any time and travel anywhere in the US they want. Yeah, we're going to get this contained in no time. Freedom excess 1
Ellener Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, justwhoiam said: Freedom excess Hey this is the land of the free, home of the brave!
Foxhall Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 the anti viral drug remdesivir is looking the best chance in the short term. 2
mark clemson Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 7:40 AM, Philosopher said: Even if the Chinese authorities in December and early January where downplaying the extent or severity of the outbreak, the governments of rich nations you would have thought would have had a more true picture of the threat this posed from their intelligence gathering. No doubt "the gov'ts" did but actually that's one small section of a large bureaucracy. As they say "the one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing" half the time. Also decision makers will look at info presented, among multiple issues and priorities, and then do what they think is best. The perceived need to sweep a problem under the rug, without fully understanding the consequences of doing so, can be strong.
nospam99 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Governor/King Cuomo (NY) mandated masks statewide unless people can keep the six foot distance. Without getting into arguments about whether masks are effective (I think not) and whether the entirety of the state is at risk (again I think not though people who work or worked specifically IN NYC make the rest of the state look that way to outsiders), I observe that some 'essential businesses' are refusing to serve maskless customers while others .... just don't care and it's 'business as usual'.
Woggle Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 Our friends in NJ who had it are now doing much better. He said it felt like his lung was a paper bag and he could almost feel it crinkling when he tried to breathe. 1
Libby1 Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Our Government (UK) is having to ditch 250 ventilators ordered from China on the basis that they're so badly made that they're dangerous. Quote The oxygen supply in the devices was “variable and unreliable”, their build quality was “basic”, the oxygen connection base was marked as “non-EU” and their fabric case made them hard to clean. The machines were Shangrila 510 ventilators made by Beijing Aeonmed, a major manufacturer of ventilators in China. They were designed for use in ambulances not hospitals, the doctors said. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/30/entire-order-of-250-chinese-ventilators-were-useless-despite Hospitals said that luckily they were able to do without the virus. Boris Johnson saying yesterday that we've seen the peak in cases, yesterday saw the second highest number of new cases that we've had - but I think they've started to include people in care homes in the figure.
elaine567 Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Libby1 said: Boris Johnson saying yesterday that we've seen the peak in cases, yesterday saw the second highest number of new cases that we've had - but I think they've started to include people in care homes in the figure. The "new cases" were always dependent on the number tested and as the number actually tested was always so small due to the scarcity of the tests, then I am not sure what they could really deduce from that.
Ruby Slippers Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 My mother's 72-year-old sister who lives in another state has Coronavirus. This is the first I've heard of anyone I know getting it. She's in the hospital in stable condition, hopefully pulls through.
FMW Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Ruby Slippers said: My mother's 72-year-old sister That's scary, it's good she's stable, I hope she has a speedy recovery. I'm fortunate none of my friends or family have had it. 1
Author gaius Posted May 7, 2020 Author Posted May 7, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 4:33 PM, SincereOnlineGuy said: C'mon people... the Asian Flu killed nearly 70,000 people in America as recently as the late 1950's. We are up to... zero so far, with this thing in 2020. (and medical response is a zillion times better now than in the 1950's) In honor of the 70,000+ people who have died so far I figured I'd quote this relevant "it's no big deal" post from back in late February. And it got 5 likes at the time!
Juha Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 10 hours ago, gaius said: In honor of the 70,000+ people who have died so far I figured I'd quote this relevant "it's no big deal" post from back in late February. And it got 5 likes at the time! That number is very dubious to be perfectly honest. It is not a legit number by any means. Yes, people have died and it is always tragic when a person dies but the number has been padded as far as Covid 19 deaths... Lady falling down the stair, get a brain injury and dies. They classified her as Covid 19 It is not a mystery why so many people are being classified as Covid 19, they are getting money from the government Plain and simple 1
sothereiwas Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Juha said: That number is very dubious to be perfectly honest. There are bound to be some undercounted and some overcounted, but yes, the incentives do seem to be tilted in favor of overcounting. I'm not convinced it's a big overcount, but total fatalities should be able to serve as a sanity check. We can do a pretty good job of counting total fatalities.
Juha Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, sothereiwas said: There are bound to be some undercounted and some overcounted, but yes, the incentives do seem to be tilted in favor of overcounting. I'm not convinced it's a big overcount, but total fatalities should be able to serve as a sanity check. We can do a pretty good job of counting total fatalities. I have many friends who are medical people and work in the hospitals. I am getting first hand info from them on what has been going on. It is from what they tell me people have Covid 19 in their systems but it is not killing them but they have to classify them as Covid 19 death anyway Also have told me that if someone has not been tested for Covid 19 and dies, they classify them as Covid 19 death They have had drug over doses that they were told to classify as Covid 19 it is rampant!!!
sothereiwas Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Juha said: I am getting first hand info from them on what has been going on. Even so, the plural of anecdote is not data. 1
nospam99 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 @sothereiwas. When the 'data' would reveal people cheating the system to wring more money out of it, that data will most likely never be revealed.
sothereiwas Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, nospam99 said: When the 'data' would reveal people cheating the system to wring more money out of it, that data will most likely never be revealed. Seems like hiding dead people would be a tough trick. Who knew.
nospam99 Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 @sothereiwas. Not hiding dead people. Just coding covid-19 as the 'cause of death'. Easy, peasy and exactly as directed by CDC Alert #2 on March 24. No one will ever follow up and verify.
sothereiwas Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, nospam99 said: Just coding covid-19 as the 'cause of death'. We have a pretty good idea how many people are going to die overall month by month, it's reasonably predictable. If other causes of death show a sudden crater, it's a pretty good indicator something fishy is going on, and we're not going to miscount total deaths by a large amount.
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