Inflikted Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 I got some takeout today, and found a small hair in my food. Now I'm irked that said hair will have been the thing that infects me with coronavirus. v_v
justwhoiam Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 18 hours ago, elaine567 said: Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) Nothing to do with China. Cases were first found in Saudi Arabia. "Camel flu", but again likely derived from bats. Modern chiropterologists tell you that you shouldn't be scared of bats and teach how the historical fear of them was just superstition. But I guess that fear was justified.
K.K. Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Inflikted said: I got some takeout today, and found a small hair in my food. Now I'm irked that said hair will have been the thing that infects me with coronavirus. v_v I hear you on this. Guessing and second guessing everything. My throat hurts and of course I just know it must be from that post office run and how mailing that letter probably cost me my life and other such dramatic crap. My friend baked me some brownies but they still sit in their ziplock bag on the counter, teasing and tormenting me. I’m already transferred them to another bag but what if some random germs stuck to them?
justwhoiam Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, K.K. said: I hear you on this. Guessing and second guessing everything. My throat hurts and of course I just know it must be from that post office run and how mailing that letter probably cost me my life and other such dramatic crap. My friend baked me some brownies but they still sit in their ziplock bag on the counter, teasing and tormenting me. I’m already transferred them to another bag but what if some random germs stuck to them? Put the brownies in the microwave for a few seconds and all the germs are killed. Edited April 4, 2020 by justwhoiam 1
K.K. Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, justwhoiam said: Put the brownies in the microwave for a few seconds and all the germs are killed. OH MY GOD I didn’t think of that, for real ! Thank you! 1
justwhoiam Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, K.K. said: OH MY GOD I didn’t think of that, for real ! Thank you! Let's go through this with the snacks!
mark clemson Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 Some people sure know how to "help out" in a crisis... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-5g/5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-is-dangerous-fake-nonsense-uk-says-idUSKBN21M0MS 1
Author gaius Posted April 5, 2020 Author Posted April 5, 2020 It's been strange getting used to the fact that all the little actions I take could make the difference between someone else living or dying. Or hundreds of people even. Every step, every breath I expel, everything I touch. At the grocery store, gas station, it all matters. It's also weird that I can't get Chinese take out anymore. Or go to the movies. I wasn't planning on going for a while anyway but it's still weird to have the choice taken from me.
Woggle Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 We have got to stop eating so much. I can't go out and take a long walk so I don't want to get out of this twenty pounds heavier. I don't seem to be gaining any weight though.
justwhoiam Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 20 hours ago, mark clemson said: Some people sure know how to "help out" in a crisis... There are people against 5G. We live in democratic countries, supposedly, but companies rule (lobbies). There are petitions against 5G even in Italy, as we don't know the effects it will have on us all. We will know in a few years. We're already seeing an increase in the cases of brain cancer, that was once considered rare. Now not so rare anymore. So, well, there might be people believing in a conspiracy, but more people questioning the introduction of 5G.
Foxhall Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Interestingly some old remedies are emerging as possibly useful in the fight against Covid 19, one is vitamin d- high dose capsules- 4000 IU per capsule and the old Bcg tuberculosis vaccine may be of assistance in helping the immune system, with a few similarities between TB and Covid 19.
elaine567 Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 UK Prime Minister, Boris Johnson after 10 days of Covid-19 - admitted to hospital "for tests" this evening.
chillii Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, elaine567 said: UK Prime Minister, Boris Johnson after 10 days of Covid-19 - admitted to hospital "for tests" this evening. Shyt , thought that might happen , saw him trying to talk to the people from home a day or two ago could see he was struggling , he didn't look too well at all.
elaine567 Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 He didn't look well at all, you are correct. Stress and overworking lowers your immunity and reduces your ability to fight infections. He needs to take time off until he is well.
Inflikted Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Apparently animals can get it, too. Someone on another forum suggests that's a very bad thing for our prospects with this virus.
justwhoiam Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Foxhall said: Interestingly some old remedies are emerging as possibly useful in the fight against Covid 19, one is vitamin d- high dose capsules- 4000 IU per capsule and the old Bcg tuberculosis vaccine may be of assistance in helping the immune system, with a few similarities between TB and Covid 19. We're all vaccinated against tbc in Italy. So I guess it doesn't mean a freaking thing. Vitamin D recommendation relies on the assumption that in Canada, Spain and in the North of Italy people have a vitamin D deficiency at the end of winter. And more specifically, they claimed that those countries have noticeably less solar radiation annually as well as more air pollution. These areas with high air pollution block ultraviolet frequencies that result in vitamin D production in the skin. The evidence quoted to promote vitamin D though is often unrelated to this virus. Some in vitro studies have been conducted and little more, but no real evidence so far.
elaine567 Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) The Vitamin D is about shoring up the immune system not really about treating the virus. The BCG vaccine is also about boosting immunity. Quote The vaccine seems to “train” the immune system to recognize and respond to a variety of infections, including viruses, bacteria and parasites, experts say. There is little evidence yet that the vaccine will blunt infection with the coronavirus, but a series of clinical trials may answer the question in just months. On Monday, scientists in Melbourne, Australia, started administering the B.C.G. vaccine or a placebo to thousands of physicians, nurses, respiratory therapists and other health care workers — the first of several randomized controlled trials intended to test the vaccine’s effectiveness against the coronavirus. “Nobody is saying this is a panacea,” said Nigel Curtis, an infectious diseases researcher at the University of Melbourne and Murdoch Children’s Research Institute, who planned the trial. “What we want to do is reduce the time an infected health care worker is unwell, so they recover and can come back to work faster. ” Edited April 5, 2020 by elaine567
justwhoiam Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, elaine567 said: The Vitamin D is about shoring up the immune system not really about treating the virus. The BCG vaccine is also about boosting immunity. Yes, I got that. But no evidence about that. Just assumptions for now. People can start taking vitamin D, but if people then develop Covid 19 anyway, you'd just be giving false hopes or wrong belief that they are protected.
Foxhall Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, justwhoiam said: We're all vaccinated against tbc in Italy. So I guess it doesn't mean a freaking thing. I may be wrong but am sure read somewhere that Italy has never mass administered the bcg vaccine, which may explain why many older Italians have succumbed to the covid 19 virus, although what defence a childhood bcg vaccine could provide against Covid 19 is questionable I suppose, but some research is certainly indicating that it may be of some benefit.
Inflikted Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 In regards to my previous post, apparently a tiger at the Bronx zoo has been confirmed to have the virus, and it's suspected a number of the other animals there have it, too. People elsewhere are saying that if this can spread between animals and humans, then it's pretty much game over for the human race. 1
Ellener Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Inflikted said: In regards to my previous post, apparently a tiger at the Bronx zoo has been confirmed to have the virus, and it's suspected a number of the other animals there have it, too. People elsewhere are saying that if this can spread between animals and humans, then it's pretty much game over for the human race. Don't you ever feel like posting something cheerful @Inflikted ?! Go on...it'll do you good!!! Coronaviruses originate with animals, like MERS with bats. 'Coronaviruses are known to infect mammals and birds, including dogs, chickens, cattle, pigs, cats, pangolins, and bats.' ( National Geographic ) This coronavirus likely *came* from an animal which doesn't do well in captivity- the pangolin, which is why you never see them in zoos ( I think there's just one in America ) but is part of a huge illegal animal trade because people in some cultures believe it has medicinal or magic powers.
Inflikted Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, Ellener said: Don't you ever feel like posting something cheerful @Inflikted ?! Go on...it'll do you good!!! I wish, I just can't seem to tear myself away from all the doomsday talk on the other forums I spend time at. It's like a horrific train wreck that you just can't seem to look away from.
Ellener Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, Inflikted said: I wish, I just can't seem to tear myself away from all the doomsday talk on the other forums I spend time at. It's like a horrific train wreck that you just can't seem to look away from. Of course you can! Do something else, go on-right now!!!!!! ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Woggle Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Our friends who have it are still doing well and it looks like the symptoms haven't become any worse than a common cold for them. We have a lot of friends in the NY/NJ area so we do worry about them. 4
jah526 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/802938289 Found this to be a really fascinating podcast, especially the part about how they tracked a virus to a single tree in Australia.
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