MaleIntuition Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Well, if you don't believe in dominance hierarchy among social animals, that kinda deflates the whole idea of classifying anyone or anything as "alpha" or "beta" in the first place. Bingo! I don’t believe in dominance hierarchy among humans. We are much more complex than baboons, and way better at constantly creating new social hierarchies. The chess geek might be the man; at his chess club. Outside, no one else gives a fck. With nearly endless amounts of measures there is simply no way you can have anything close to an objective classification system anyway. So yes: it’s meaningless, harmful and a very insulting concept. It’s easy to sell though. 1
Kitty Tantrum Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 That sounds less like you don't believe in dominance hierarchy among humans, and more like you think that the variability of human social structures renders dominance hierarchy objectively/globally indefinable.
alphamale Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 We are much more complex than baboons, actually we share 98% of our DNA
fromheart Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 Oh well I feel I did stupid things before in the past and allowed myself to be taken advantage of and payed the price, and that was getting to me. I feel like I just had to get it all out and told her I was sick of putting on this confidence and secure persona all the time, as if I don't have any demons. Perhaps having a huge sudden meltdown while under the influence, wasn't the best, but for some reason, it hit me hard then all of a sudden. She responded positively and said she was there for me and wanted to help. Maybe she doesn't see it as me acting differently, and thinks maybe we all have different sides... She may have seem to respond positively in that instance, but chances are it's going to be on her mind. Women have to go through hormonal fluctuations we do not have to deal with. Many of them need a man who's emotionally balanced and can just listen when she's having a meltdown. Emotionally balanced doesn't mean like a robot, it just means emotional responsibility. I'd strongly urge not doing this again. Cry to your friends, that's what they are there for.
MaleIntuition Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 That sounds less like you don't believe in dominance hierarchy among humans, and more like you think that the variability of human social structures renders dominance hierarchy objectively/globally indefinable. Well, no; my argument (or belief) is that because it’s objectively undefinable it doesn’t exist, especially not in the absolute form implied when people use terms such as alpha male.
Author ironpony Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 She may have seem to respond positively in that instance, but chances are it's going to be on her mind. Women have to go through hormonal fluctuations we do not have to deal with. Many of them need a man who's emotionally balanced and can just listen when she's having a meltdown. Emotionally balanced doesn't mean like a robot, it just means emotional responsibility. I'd strongly urge not doing this again. Cry to your friends, that's what they are there for. Oh okay, but if many women need a man who can just listen when she is a having a meltdown, isn't it fair for men to want a woman who can listen when he has a meltdown too then?
DrNo1962 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 In better words, at what point do you stop having an interdependent relationship with your S.O: In an interdependent relationship, all participants are emotionally, economically, ecologically and/or morally self-reliant while at the same time responsible to each other. The answer is you don’t stop.
elaine567 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Oh okay, but if many women need a man who can just listen when she is a having a meltdown, isn't it fair for men to want a woman who can listen when he has a meltdown too then? Yes it is fair, but some women, not ALL women I hasten to add, want a strong man to be her rock, someone she can lean on, rely on, and someone who will protect her from the big bad world. She may not want to listen whilst he ends up a blubbering mess. She may find his display of "helplessness" to be a turn off and she may find it difficult to then respect such a man Having a man she sees as weak, may make her feel vulnerable and defenceless in the world, she may then turn against him and seek out a stronger man or she may turn the tables and end up bullying him as she has identified his Achilles heel... 1
Author ironpony Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 Oh okay. Well she wanted me to talk more about it now, but told her that I was able to open up more to her and cry in front of her when I was drunk. I told her that now that when I'm sober, I just can't bring myself to open and cry the same way, and that I can't help but put a shield up when I am with her, and that the booze lowered my shield. Was that a bad thing of me to say most likely?
basil67 Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Was what you said true? Or did you actually want to talk about it with her?
Author ironpony Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 Oh well I said I had a hard time talking about it with her, but just wanted to put it out there, that that was what I was feeling.
Johnson1 Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Everyone feels insecure at one time or another, even these alpha male dudes. They're only human and I'm sure they've come across a woman they fell for and had their hearts broken at one time or another. If you have a heart and wear it on your sleeve you have to let them know from the start. You can't hide who you really are forever. If your with the right woman she should make you feel secure by the things she says and the things she does.
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