Is a 40yr guy too old to be a sugar baby?

[Lemontea]

First of all I'm not the guy in question. This is a hypothetical question and I'm asking as if I was.

 

I wonder whether if women in their 40's and 50's would want to be with men their age as much as men in their 20's. I see them being sugar mama to men USUALLY in early to mid 20's. I wonder if those women are willing to sugar men their age or just slightly younger.

 

I'm just trying to make some extra income to get by. Compared to the others, I'm a bit older at my very late 30's. I'm prolly too old to be a straight escort or gay escort. But I'm extremely good at talking and having conversation to make people feel good and relaxed. I'm a bit older, but I do have a decent face and fit body.

 

I have been in and out of jail since I was in my late teens, mostly for drug or gang related crimes, weapon crimes, or property crimes, but never for sex crimes so I'm allowed to go on dating site and stuff. Because of my criminal past I have very limited career choices, I usually work in construction during the warmer months and try to save enough to get by the winter.

 

Would I do well in a sugar mama relationship. I'm a changed man now. U can't see me in person but I swear if I didn't tell u about my past and I wear long sleeve to cover my gang tattoo and scar and u see me on the street, u would think I look like a school teacher, social worker, or pastor. In fact I wanted to be social worker, but because of my criminal past I couldn't. During my times in jail I learned how to be polite, kind and considerate and I learned how to talk to people to make people feel good.

 

I just thought since older women are willing to pay younger men to be with them. Then maybe I could try to be a sugar baby too. Sure I'm not as young as 20's guys. But I think my ability to make women feel good and my ability to connect with women can make up for the stuff that I no longer have. I think personality is more important than youth in a relationship, I really think I can provide a better companion to women who are looking for someone to have a good time with. And I'm not bad looking either, I'm no longer in my 20's but I do have a fit body thanks to my manual labour job and a decent face.

 

What do u think of my chances of being able to get a sugar mama. And once again I'm don't act like a thug, I don't dress like one, I don't talk like one. I do have a few gang tattoos and a few scar but I hide them pretty well. And if u see me on the street I swear u will think I'm ****ting u if I tell u I was once a thug.

Edited January 18, 2019 by Lemontea

[Simple Logic]

So you tossed away a promising life in drugs, weapons, gangs and property crimes to con older women out of their money. Yes, I can see where you have changed a lot.

 

Keep your criminal past secret and get the gang tats removed you will find a fool some place.

Edited January 18, 2019 by Simple Logic

[Lemontea]

So you tossed away a life in crimes to older women out of their money. you have changed a lot. Keep your criminal past secret you will find a fool some place.

 

Well prison changed me from a thug into a good person. Right now I'm a happy person and I want to help people live a fulfilling live. And I want to provide happiness to women in need.

[NuevoYorko]

With all of your outstanding attributes, being middle aged certainly won't stand in your way. You might even attract sugar mamas in their 20's. Go for it.

[preraph]

Well some decades have passed, but one day I know who tried to live as a gigolo and was probably about 30 and extremely good-looking of course wanted to be a gigolo to women but the only business he attracted was men. I'm not sure about sugar baby but I would imagine a man of your age could get paid for sex by other men.

it truly isn't going to be a reliable living though.

I think whether it was male or female it's probably only going to be an occasional perk. You should at least try to find a regular job. Maybe as a delivery person ir working in a warehouse that handled goods that weren't really stealable so that maybe the owner wouldn't be that picky about background. like you might look into the oil and gas industry working out in the field or on a drilling rig in the ocean.

[Lemontea]

I would imagine a man of your age could get paid for sex by other men. it truly isn't reliable living. whether it was male or female it's probably only going to be an occasional perk. You should at least try to find a regular job. like you might look into the oil and gas industry working out in the field or on a drilling rig in the ocean.

 

I'm straight so I don't want to be with men. I know women generally don't pay men for sex, so I think the only way would be a sugar mama. I don't want it to be a one time thing too, I want a long term relationship where I will see a sugar mama 2 times a month for a total of $300-400. If I get like 4 sugar mama I will make $1200-1600 a month, which can really help me. My in my late 30's, the other sugar babies guy are in their early-mid 20's, I'm older but I think I can offer just as much or even more.

Edited January 18, 2019 by Lemontea

[basil67]

I don't want it to be a one time thing too, I want a long term relationship where I will see a sugar mama 2 times a month for a total of $300-400. If I get like 4 sugar mama I will make $1200-1600 a month

 

This isn't a sugar baby arrangement, this is prostitution. A sugar baby receives gifts and perhaps an apartment and in return gives fidelity and regular companionship.

[BaileyB]

I don't want it to be a one time thing too, I want a long term relationship where I will see a sugar mama 2 times a month for a total of $300-400. If I get like 4 sugar mama I will make $1200-1600 a month, which can really help me.

 

Well, that doesn’t sound like your primary interest is providing “happiness for women in need.” That sounds like good old self-interest. It sounds exploitive.

 

I think you will find that any self respecting woman won’t be interested in the “happiness” you are planning to provide... They will find their own happiness.

[preraph]

I don't think it's about your age. I think it's about supply and demand. a friend told me that there are gigolos working the casinos in the Bahamas but that isn't a sugar baby thing. It's British guys taking advantage of drunk American women. When I was younger a lot of the musicians we're sort of taken care of by women but I don't think the women were handing them money. Women are more likely to spend money on you on the food and stuff like that than to just hand you money.

[Mr. Lucky]

Right now I'm a happy person and I want to help people live a fulfilling live. And I want to provide happiness to women in need.

 

So you mean something like volunteering at a shelter for abused women? Or maybe help organize a Susan G. Komen fundraiser?

 

Mr. Lucky

[elaine567]

...I will see a sugar mama 2 times a month for a total of $300-400. If I get like 4 sugar mama I will make $1200-1600 a month, which can really help me.

That is not how it tends to work.

Arrangements do vary but a sugar baby is essentially a paid bf/gf.

Few are going to pay you good regular money for a 2X a month visit, whilst the rest of the time you are off servicing and smoozing other women.

If she just wants NSA sex twice a month she can get some off Tinder or get into a fwb arrangement - both will not cost her a penny.

[doyathinkso]

Good luck Joe Buck.

[RecentChange]

Is there really much of a market for women “sugaring” men?

 

I think we all know that it’s much easier for women to obtain sex from men, than it is for men to get sex from women.

 

Very few have to pay for it, and even more so, less women desire the power imbalanced relationship of paying someone for their affection.

 

My guess.... there is a bigger market of gay men, than straight women looking for these sorts of things.

 

I can’t quite imagine the situation where a wealthy woman would want to pay a middle aged ex con to spend time with her.

 

I have known one guy who had a “sugar mamma”. He is very attractive, a personal trainer working at an Ivy League school. His granny goose as he calls her buys him things, pays for trips and dinners, and gives him some pocket change. It’s nothing to make a living off of.

Edited January 18, 2019 by RecentChange

[thefooloftheyear]

Is there really much of a market for women “sugaring” men?

 

I think we all know that it’s much easier for women to obtain sex from men, than it is men from women.

 

Very few have to pay for it, and even more so, less women desire the power imbalanced relationship of paying someone for their affection.

 

My guess.... there is a bigger market of gay men, than straight women looking for these sorts of things.

 

I can’t quite imagine the situation where a wealthy woman would want to pay a middle aged ex con to spend time with her.

 

I agree with you......but....

 

I have seen in my lifetime, on several occasions, women who actually do this very thing, even though its not a declared arrangement....It's usually a woman that has self esteem issues, is heavy/obese, etc..These women are often successful and have good careers/money...The guys give them a little love and the next thing you know, these women are buying cars for these guys, bringing them food, paying their rent, etc..

 

The guys are just users, but the end result is exactly the same...And it's amazing how long they can get away with it...It usually eventually ends, but they manage to find the next sucker..

 

TFY

[Eternal Sunshine]

Women will always have an edge in getting easy sex, at any age. Casual and FWB is so plentiful that a woman can afford to be very picky. Only hottest of the hot and for free.

 

 

 

So I can't imagine there will be a market for it. The only way to go is to find a rich woman, con her into thinking that you are in love with her and over longer term, she may pay for your food and rent. But you will have to do so much more than see her 2x a month.

 

 

Otherwise, 70+ gay men are the way to go.

[d0nnivain]

I think you are overstating your value. Being a sex worker I suppose is sort of part of the gig economy but I seriously doubt you can get multiple women to meet your asking price. Your past indiscretions alone make you a risky proposition.

[Ruby Slippers]

Other than the scenario thefooloftheyear described, where an unattractive woman buys the man things because he provides some companionship and attention, from what I've seen, this market is mostly well-to-do women who want a romance novel experience, a super hot, buff, sweet man who provides the PERFECT evening/weekend/long weekend of dating and sex.

 

I had my own business a couple years ago, providing a certain type of business strategy consulting, and I had a client who was a gorgeous male escort in France (former swimwear model). He was mid-30s, and most of his clients were 50+ wealthy women who paid him to be their companion for fancy events, on exotic trips and the like, including dates, massages, affection, romance, and sex.

 

If you want to go upmarket, you're going to have to look super fine - stylish clothes, buff body, cool car - and you're going to have to come across as a worldly, sophisticated gentleman in your manner.

 

Almost any woman can get free sex with a very hot man at the click of a mouse. What we can't easily get is a hot guy who also provides all the other stuff women love - massages, cuddles, some romance, reliability, etc.

 

If an attractive woman is going to pay for sex and companionship, he's got to be among the best of the best.

[goth-gal]

Women in their 40s and 50s get hit on by 20 and 30 yo ALL THE TIME. Why would we pay someone when we can get it for free from super grateful guys?

[Eternal Sunshine]

I remember once on a work trip, I got on tinder and saw this super hot guy in his late 20s. His body was like a greek god or something

 

 

 

I decided to ask him for a drink and then told him that we can go to my place. He was so eager and couldn't believe his luck From talking to other women, that seems to be their experience as well.

[RecentChange]

Yeah the fact is - like the ladies are pointing out.

 

You better be ready to give the “George Clooney” experience, or be willing to lend attention to females that are so physically undesirable no other man will unless you pay them.

 

I don’t think the market for straight male “sugar babies” anything remotely like it is for females .... course even then at 40 - most women would be aged out of this profession.

 

Oh - and the guy I mentioned? He won fitness and body building competitions, had a college education, like I said, worked at an Ivy League school. He was the kind of man a wealthy woman enjoyed showing off. But he wasn’t making real money off it. Just more like free perks.

[hotpotato]

I saw where a man, may be in his late 30s, married a much older woman. She was probably 30 years older than him. His previous wife was also much older. She died and left him an inheritance.

 

You'd have to find women waaay older than you or a man. Men are the main purchasers of sex.

[Lemontea]

you might look into the oil and gas industry working out in the field or on a drilling rig in the ocean.

Most oil and gas companies are major corporation so I think they usually do criminal checks, which I can't pass for sure. Plus I think if ur on parole moving out of your city might be pretty complicated.

 

volunteering at a shelter for abused women? Or maybe help organize a Susan G. Komen fundraiser?

I don't wanna work for free. Plus I don't think I'm allowed to volunteer for any social service organizations. I'm not sex offender but assault charges were some of the things I have done time for.

 

a sugar baby is essentially a paid bf/gf. Few are going to pay you good regular money for a 2X a month visit. If she just wants NSA sex twice a month she can get some off Tinder or get into a fwb arrangement - both will not cost her a penny.

I'm not asking for much $, I would go on a 5hrs date for $150. I'm not providing only sex, it's sex and main companionship.

 

Is there really much of a market for women “sugaring” men? I can’t quite imagine the situation where a wealthy woman would want to pay a middle aged ex con to spend time with her. I have known one guy who had a “sugar mamma”. He is very attractive, a personal trainer working at an Ivy League school. His granny goose as he calls her buys him things, pays for trips and dinners, and gives him some pocket change. It’s nothing to make a living off of.

Older women do sugar younger men, usually college age because they are the most in need of money. I'm older but I think I can provide just as good companion. And I kind of feel like most women like men who are older than them, so if they are willing to pay someone younger for companion, I think I deserve just as much love as the younger men.

 

this market is mostly well-to-do women who want a romance novel experience, a super hot, buff, sweet man who provides the PERFECT evening/weekend/long weekend of dating and sex.

What we can't easily get is a hot guy who also provides all the other stuff women love - massages, cuddles, some romance, reliability, etc.

If an attractive woman is going to pay for sex and companionship, he's got to be among the best of the best.

I'm not sure if a man has to be hot and buff, I think the most important thing is a great time which I'm good at providing. Just because a man is hot and buff doesn't mean he's good at sex and companionship.

 

Women in their 40s and 50s get hit on by 20 and 30 yo ALL THE TIME. Why would we pay someone when we can get it for free from super grateful guys?

I'm not 20's or 30's but I think I provide a better dating experience than any of those guys. I think how a man can make a woman feel is more important than how a man look.

 

I got on tinder and saw this super hot guy in his late 20s. His body was like a greek god or something I told him that we can go to my place. He was so eager and couldn't believe his luck

Are u saying I can't be more worthy than him just because he is 20's and has a greek god body. I still insist how a man can make a woman feel is more important than how a man look. And women in their 40's and 50's are prolly more attracted to men near their age than men in their 20's. I'm looking for women in their 40's and 50's.

 

You better be ready to give the “George Clooney” experience, or be willing to lend attention to females that are so physically undesirable no other man will unless you pay them. I don’t think the market for straight male “sugar babies” anything remotely like it is for females. Oh - and the guy I mentioned? He won fitness and body building competitions, had a college education, worked at an Ivy League school. He was the kind of man a wealthy woman enjoyed showing off. But he wasn’t making real money off it. Just more like free perks.

I think I can provide an experience better than george clooney. I'm not for women to show off, I'm here to provide great companionship.

[Kitty Tantrum]

I don't suspect it's your age, specifically, that would be the make-or-break factor here. It's whether or not you can provide the specific goods and services that the old moneyed hags are after. Just being willing and able to provide sex and companionship isn't enough. Even old and ugly women can get that for free if they're not picky about a man's looks/status, usually with same day delivery.

 

I'm sure that not ALL sugar mamas are just after the perfect hot young male body... but there has to be something that sets you apart. Being good at sex and dating is fairly unremarkable, unless you're some kind of charmer who can wield serious power over the female psyche. No offense intended, but I'm not getting that impression. You would probably need a niche that plays to your image/personality, and a really good hustle, and even then I doubt it would be a good income.

 

I don't think it's so much about whether you CAN, as it is a question of whether it's actually worth all of the time and energy. Not to mention the dick pills you'll likely need to get it up for the sorts of women who have to resort to paying for male company. And, of course, the complete loss of dignity.

[sabaton]

Other than the scenario thefooloftheyear described, where an unattractive woman buys the man things because he provides some companionship and attention, from what I've seen, this market is mostly well-to-do women who want a romance novel experience, a super hot, buff, sweet man who provides the PERFECT evening/weekend/long weekend of dating and sex.

When I was in my early 20s I was a ''sugar baby'' to a 60 year old woman who was a fashion model in her youth, and aged into a very attractive woman, looking much younger than her real age. Only unattractive women buy men things?

 

Couldn't it be that a 40-60 year old man for the most part looks awful, can't perform sexually like a 20-30 year old man can, and he's not boring like a guy who has been around much longer than the older guy has?

 

I had my own business a couple years ago, providing a certain type of business strategy consulting, and I had a client who was a gorgeous male escort in France (former swimwear model). He was mid-30s, and most of his clients were 50+ wealthy women who paid him to be their companion for fancy events, on exotic trips and the like, including dates, massages, affection, romance, and sex.

And you think women in their 20s and 30s wouldn't be paying for a high-priced escort if they could afford it?

 

Almost any woman can get free sex with a very hot man at the click of a mouse. What we can't easily get is a hot guy who also provides all the other stuff women love - massages, cuddles, some romance, reliability, etc.

Yeah, I love J.R.R Tolkien and G.R.R Martin but there's a limit to what's possible in a fantasy world. Most women in the Anglo-Saxon nations are 5'4'' and close to 170lbs at 30% body fat. I know we have higher sex drives on average and that we aren't that picky, but the day I see a Calvin Klein underwear model shagging a woman who could feed an African cannibal tribe, is the day I'm going to start believe in the existence of a God.

 

We do lower our standards for easy, quick sex, but the women are still somewhat(usually very pretty women with flat butts and boobs) more attractive than ''almost any woman can get free sex witha very hot woman''.

 

Also, there's a difference between an emotionaless shag because we are horny and we're having an one-week long dryspell, and sex that women enjoy because the guy cares about her pleasure, and not about just busting a nut.

 

What we can't easily get is a hot guy who also provides all the other stuff women love - massages, cuddles, some romance, reliability

You mean we aren't as likely to waste money on women we don't care about, unlike the average man who'll buy the woman a house if that means he can get some from time to time.

 

If an attractive woman is going to pay for sex and companionship, he's got to be among the best of the best.

Nah. Not really, no. He just has to be charming, athletic, funny, and sexually attentive. Word gets around amongst women who are divorced, retired, and amongst women who've only come across men who are lazy in bed, and your clientele will increase.

 

OP:

 

If you are smart about it, you can also have a clientele of extremely attractive young women. Enter the circles of old, rich men. They usually(only poor men marry women their own age)marry women who are much younger than them, women who are attractive enough to be Victorias secret lingerie models, but they lacked the brains to figure it out,or they were born in third world Countries like Brazil, or Mozambique and such.

 

Become close associates to those old men, and eventually you'll get to be around their trophy wives. You could smash their wives for free, but funny how willing women are to spend money on you when you are the only guy they get to spend time with other than their husbands, and you are sweet, and kind and generous and you treat her with respect, unlike their husbands, who see them as property.

 

I feel so valued when they start buying me things and giving me money to show their appreciation. Ladies, if you want to show your man that you love him - buy him a 1969 Camaro. Sex is easy to get, but to get a car offered to you? Now that shows the guy the woman is truly in love with him

Edited January 20, 2019 by sabaton

[sabaton]

If you want to go upmarket, you're going to have to look super fine - stylish clothes, buff body, cool car - and you're going to have to come across as a worldly, sophisticated gentleman in your manner.

There are different markets for different men. In Japan, the male prostitutes work in nightclubs as hosts. There are guys there making a million a year clean from just entertaining women, and these women in many cases are young and attractive professional women who don't have the time to be in a relationship, and they're not interested in the men around them.

 

Roland is the most well-paid male Japanese Gigolo in Japan. He weights what, 150lbs? That's skinny, and it's easy to look lean and cut at that weight. He's prettier than Selena Gomez was at 18. Not exactly the square-jawed look Hollywood Stars are famous for. He is also quite effeminate, dresses like a woman, and even has his hair done to look like he's a woman. He's as close to being masculine and buff as I am of anally nailing Selena Gomez.

 

Roland started working at host clubs — where people meet modern geishas — at 18.

At the time, Roland had just dropped out of a prestigious Tokyo University, according to Maison de Beaute.

He quit school simply because he could not imagine working in a corporation for 200,000 yen (about $1,800 a month) until retirement.

That choice proved to be right as he now manages one of the most popular clubs in Kabukicho, an area in Tokyo’s Shinjuku ward with the densest concentration of host and hostess outlets.

To top that off, he reportedly makes as much as 42 million yen (about $370,000) a month.

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What a gorgeous man huh? He reminds me so much of Hugh Jackman and Ryan Gosling, the epitome of masculine beauty. Then again, Johnny Depp looks like a girl with the ability to grow stubble, and women have always loved him. There are many women who will only pay for guys who look like they came out of the set of Magic Mike, but there's also many, many women who want beautiful men, like how Brad Pitt looked in Interview With The Vampire.

 

Most of those guys who work outside of the USA as gigolos dress well, yeah, but they're skinny, not buff, or they're simply fit enough, like a man with a cross-country build, instead.

 

Find your market and go for it. Mine consists of young married women from third world Countries who haven't seen a ''young''(I consider myself to be old at 28) in years and are married to much older, overweight, short/ugly men.

 

Your market might be something else, but you won't know until you try.

Edited January 20, 2019 by sabaton