Fekenaws Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Women are far less likely to contact an ex than a man is, women are 60-80% more likely to initiate the break up than a man is, and it has been this way since the late 1800s. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-women-more-likely-than-men-to-end-a-relationship/ Not trying to upset anyone, demonize women or men, or anything like that. I just thought it was a short, interesting read!
PRW Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) It is mostly common knowledge. Women do most of the breaking up because most of the relationship problems begin with the man. Yes, women have their share of problems too, but a large part of those problems are just a reaction, or a domino, effect of the man's problems. Women are mostly "responders", and their issues are often a response to the man's problems. Coming to a good understanding of that can be liberating for her. Women are less likely to reach out to an Ex because women tend to hang into the relationship till the bitter end. They wait until the "Love Tank" has run completely dry,...there is nothing left. That is why when they leave the guy they can do it so coldly,..because they just don't have one shred of feelings left. This is why I don't take it too seriously about helping a guy get his Ex back. It is almost always futile. Instead I focus on him bettering himself so he doesn't screw it up with the next one. Edited January 14, 2019 by PRW 7
basil67 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Women are less likely to reach out to an Ex because women tend to hang into the relationship till the bitter end. They wait until the "Love Tank" has run completely dry,...there is nothing left. That is why when they leave the guy they can do it so coldly,..because they just don't have one shred of feelings left. Quoted for emphasis OP, I see nothing in the link or your post which could be interpreted as demonizing women - so you're all good there. Edited January 14, 2019 by basil67
stillafool Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Women are far less likely to contact an ex than a man is, women are 60-80% more likely to initiate the break up than a man is, and it has been this way since the late 1800s. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-women-more-likely-than-men-to-end-a-relationship/ Not trying to upset anyone, demonize women or men, or anything like that. I just thought it was a short, interesting read! I'm a woman, this does not surprise me. Does it surprise you?
SophieG Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 It is mostly common knowledge. Women are less likely to reach out to an Ex because women tend to hang into the relationship till the bitter end. They wait until the "Love Tank" has run completely dry,...there is nothing left. That is why when they leave the guy they can do it so coldly,..because they just don't have one shred of feelings left. This is why I don't take it too seriously about helping a guy get his Ex back. It is almost always futile. Instead I focus on him bettering himself so he doesn't screw it up with the next one. Wow! That describes PERFECTLY how my last relationship ended. I did everything I could, I gave every chance I could, went the extra mile too often. He broke up, but I was in agreement with it. He reached out and tried to work things out, and I was over it. 4
BeRespectful Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 Women do most of the breaking up because most of the relationship problems begin with the man. I think that's a huge assumption. 2
2.50 a gallon Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 Over the years I have had many women break up with me. Truthfully I was not the marrying kind. I could have cared less, and in most cases, within a month or two they would be wanting to hook up again. My XW and I began fighting about 2 months into our marriage when she got involved with "est". On our six month anniversary I caught her kissing a guard where she worked and told her it was not safe for her to come home that night. When she came to get her things she told me how much happier she was with her new guy. A few weeks later she realized that I was sleeping with another girl and she did a instant total turn around.
somanymistakes Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 ABSOLUTELY NOT SCIENTIFIC DATA just my personal opinion: I always felt like men were less likely to initiate breakups because they tended to feel like once they'd made the commitment, that was just a fixed fact. Men were less interested in settling into an official relationship quickly, but once they did, they assumed that was it, that was the decision, it was made, they'd stick with it thick and thin. That sometimes means that they take the relationship for granted because they assume it's permanent, so they aren't always proactive about fixing problems that come up. And if there are big problems, even if it's the guy that's suffering most, a man is somewhat more likely to just hang in there and suffer, thinking it's the right and manly thing to do. So it doesn't, to me, say anything about men being 'the problem'. Regardless of where the problem in a relationship comes from, it seems like it's more commonly women who are able to look at a situation and say "You know what, this isn't working" and take steps to change it. 2
PRW Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 I think that's a huge assumption.It is an assumption for you to think that. It is not an assumption to people who have made it their business and their mission to pay attention to that type stuff. Of course it is more complicated than my original statement, but this is an anonymous web forum and I'm not trying to write a book with full source quoting. Yes, I can trace it back beyond the individual men, but that leads into political science, the science of societies, religion, philosophy, and who knows what else. Then throw in the whole "chicken & egg" puzzle... There is no point in going back into all that.
chillii Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) It is mostly common knowledge. Women do most of the breaking up because most of the relationship problems begin with the man. Yes, women have their share of problems too, but a large part of those problems are just a reaction, or a domino, effect of the man's problems. Women are mostly "responders", and their issues are often a response to the man's problems. Coming to a good understanding of that can be liberating for her. Women are less likely to reach out to an Ex because women tend to hang into the relationship till the bitter end. They wait until the "Love Tank" has run completely dry,...there is nothing left. That is why when they leave the guy they can do it so coldly,..because they just don't have one shred of feelings left. This is why I don't take it too seriously about helping a guy get his Ex back. It is almost always futile. Instead I focus on him bettering himself so he doesn't screw it up with the next one. l dunno what world you live in favoring women and blaming men in every post of yours l see and what quallies you have to preach away. But in my world, the real world not tapping away on some keyboard, women certainly aren't the Mother Teresa's you make them out to be. And incidentally women were also far more likely to hook up with and ex on fb and l know of 3 families torn to pieces from that alone when he was a damn good man and husband. And know of about 10 other families torn to pieces from her screwing round and heard of dozens of others just in my circle or through others alone. Matter of fact , 90% of the divorces l know of were usually her doing something. And this bs about her losing it two yrs ago before so she has every right doesn't cut it either because she should've talked to her husband many times through all that but if worst still came to worst then she should divorce him first rather than jumping into an affair before they've even broken up which is the way most women leave a marriage, Another thing no one ever seems to point out is that she usually gets the house, kids, and a nice little monthly bank deposit and half of his retirement for the next 20yrs , even if she's the one that went and screwed around. And she still gets the red carpet rolled out to her all over the place even by the courts. Where as if he does that he ends up in a one bedroom rented tin can loses his house losing his kids and is screwed for 20yrs. So yeah , strange how his more likely to put up with the bxxxx isn't it. So there's a lot more to all this shyt and these skewed stats all over the place and the assumptions and comments made than butter wouldn't melt in her mouth and it's all him him him believe me. Edited January 19, 2019 by chillii
somanymistakes Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 if worst still came to worst then she should divorce him first rather than jumping into an affair before they've even broken up which is the way most women leave a marriage Most men, too. I mean, I can't be certain about "most" when it comes to reasons for divorce, but cheating is still slightly more common among men than women. Still, either way, humans cheat. Another thing no one ever seems to point out is that she usually gets the house, kids, and a nice little monthly bank deposit and half of his retirement for the next 20yrs , even if she's the one that went and screwed around. Each party to the marriage gets half the marital assets. Half. Because they are marital assets. They belong to both partners in the marriage. That's what it means. As for post-divorce payments, they come in two flavors: child support and alimony. These payments are generally made from the higher earner to the lower earner in order to achieve "fairness". Because society is what it is, because women are routinely underpaid for the same work or fired when they have children, it's more commonly the husband who is the higher earner and has to pay more. Women who are required to pay out are just as irritated by it as the men are. It's a frustrating system, it's basically designed to make everyone unhappy and feel hard-done-by just so the state doesn't have to support anyone. Some states do have rules that you don't have to pay alimony to a spouse that cheated on you, but that doesn't affect child support because it's not the kids' fault. As far as I know, there is NOWHERE in the USA, UK, or any other country I'm familiar with that would simply go "oh yeah, and she gets the house". The house is a marital asset. It gets split. Some men CHOOSE to let the wife keep the house so that the kids face less disruption. Usually in cases where a man gets utterly, absolutely screwed in a divorce it's because he panicked and signed a bad deal without legal advice or any attempt to fight it, or didn't bother showing up in court so the court ruled against him on everything. Obviously there are exceptions, but this is what's most common as far as I know. 1
chillii Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) No way to know if it's mostly men or women no matter what bs skewed stats dream up, But l'm not for a second saying all guys are saints or don't screw round but there's no way known women are either and in my world it was def' far more women. And in the divorce forum l was in for 2yrs to after mine, same story and some horrific stories to l might add. It's even very clear right through this forum and many posts. As for divorce stuff nope sorry def' no where near even or fair for many.And l've had plenty of chats even with women wondering why their new bf is so screwed and still forking out to the ex, depression bc he can't see his kids and on and on. My divorce was very fair and we still get along very well to btw before anyone goes sprouting bitter bitter. PS, But eh , no interest in getting into all that again just a few points no one else seems to bother doing. Which is pretty damn scary with so many God knows who's trolls all over the internet sprouting this n that bs. Edited January 19, 2019 by chillii
somanymistakes Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I put "fair" in quotes because when one person is forced to pay out to support another that they no longer love or even necessarily like, someone who they may think is lazy and worthless and just sponging off them, it's not going to feel fair. The principles behind child support and alimony are designed to promote a particular kind of "fairness". Whether it's actually fair is a different story and probably needs a whole other thread
alphamale Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Women are far less likely to contact an ex than a man is, women are 60-80% more likely to initiate the break up than a man is, and it has been this way since the late 1800s. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-women-more-likely-than-men-to-end-a-relationship/ Not trying to upset anyone, demonize women or men, or anything like that. I just thought it was a short, interesting read! yep, I have seen these statistics before and they are pretty accurate
Mysterio Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I think that Men can live in more mediocre relationship. Married or not over a woman. think about all the stuff that mn have to do to woo a woman into a relationship with him. Lots of stuff. Women don't have to do that for me. To be honest. The most a woman would have to do is look pretty and be soft/nice and affectionate. Nothing more than that. My buddy DT and his GF-CF are together and she is still legally married to her x. The x is the on that wanted out. Why he won't finalize the Divorce is a mystery. CF's X has GF himself so what's the hang-up. It can' be the kids. It's like CF's X wants her to not have smooth sailings with DT. DT proposed marriage a yr ago and CF is still not even close to being divorced yet and hr and DT have 2 kids under 5. BD/SC wr married and SC wanted out. She said that her feelings for BD were no longer there. SA/JB wr together for 29 yrs. Married for 19 and JB wanted out. I don't know the reason now. Although SA has a new GF at the moment by about a yr or so. I think that the percentage is the woman initiates the break up first. The man second. The man can handle sort of mediocrity. The woman can't.
Shining One Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 It would be interesting to see statistics specifically for relationships in which the women was the higher earner and/or the man was the primary caretaker for the children. I'm curious as to whether or the not the reversal of those two dynamics would significantly shift the ratio of who initiates the divorce.
alphamale Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 It would be interesting to see statistics specifically for relationships in which the women was the higher earner and/or the man was the primary caretaker for the children. I'm curious as to whether or the not the reversal of those two dynamics would significantly shift the ratio of who initiates the divorce. the woman would still initiate the divorce 75% of the time
somanymistakes Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 the woman would still initiate the divorce 75% of the time And if green was the most popular color in the world sports cars would still be red. There's absolutely no evidence for my statement, but I said it, so clearly it's true!
PRW Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 l dunno what world you live in favoring women and blaming men in every post of yours l see and what quallies you have to preach away. But in my world, the real world not tapping away on some keyboard, women certainly aren't the Mother Teresa's you make them out to be.Well, that is a characterization of the things I say. In any case, no one here knows my background or what my formal training may or may not be, and that is the way I keep it.
PRW Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Another thing no one ever seems to point out is that she usually gets the house, kids, and a nice little monthly bank deposit and half of his retirement for the next 20yrs , even if she's the one that went and screwed around. And she still gets the red carpet rolled out to her all over the place even by the courts.Oh, it gets pointed out alright. And then the thread explodes into a Women-vs-Men, Feminist-vs-Everyone WAR,...then the moderators step in and shut it down. So there is no point in going into that unless the subject matter forces it. But YouTube is full of this stuff, and it isn't just MGTOW. Cassie Jay's movie The Red Pill is all about that. I am very well acquainted with it. Edited January 24, 2019 by PRW
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