while Posted September 13, 2005 Posted September 13, 2005 The Associated Press caption accompanying the image with a black person says he's just finished "looting" a grocery store. The AFP/Getty Images caption describes lighter skinned people "finding" bread and soda from a grocery store. No stores are open to sell these goods. New Orleans, Sept. 1, 2005 - It's criminal. From what you're hearing, the people trapped in New Orleans are nothing but looters. We're told we should be more "neighborly." But nobody talked about being neighborly until after the people who could afford to leave … left There are gangs of white vigilantes near here riding around in pickup trucks, all of them armed, and any young Black they see who they figure doesn't belong in their community, they shoot him. But nobody cares. They're just lawless looters ... dangerous The hurricane hit at the end of the month, the time when poor people are most vulnerable. Food stamps don't buy enough but for about three weeks of the month, and by the end of the month everyone runs out. Now they have no way to get their food stamps or any money, so they just have to take what they can to survive. Every day countless volunteers are trying to help, but they're turned back. Almost all the rescue that's been done has been done by volunteers anyway. here is the real truth, they were watching our in need of help Americans die and suffer because they are afraid of us African Americans and other poor races & it make me mad because these scum just are sitting around while people die and it is sick. they can't even take care of our affairs here in America, how are they going to help other country's when this place is a hell hole. It made me sick to see Veterans dying and they fault for this country like my dad, & my step brother is now fighting in Iraq & even he called me & said that he feels ashamed & appalled at what he has saw this week from our fake country
Barby Posted September 13, 2005 Posted September 13, 2005 Wow, that.........well....honestly that was powerful. I know so very very many people would dis-agree...but sadly I believe this to be the way people are continuing to work! It is sickening, sadly you do NOT see a lot of the gruesome images on USA media coverage. (from FULL honest images I've seen on TeleMundo) It appears that the most NOT receiving basic supplies, food, adequate shelter, just help in general other than from their very own neighbors who have managed to salvage what they could........are the poorest of the poor neighborhoods. It saddens me that even in the worst of tragedies, people can not lose the stigma that has and continues to allow the rich to become richer and the poor to remain/become poorer......:(:mad::( Remember this is MHO so even if you don't agree, no need to attack me....
LucreziaBorgia Posted September 13, 2005 Posted September 13, 2005 Here is something else you may find interesting about that. I guess its the difference between something inflammatory and something where someone actually tries to get to the bottom of the matter specifically in terms of the captions.
gigilani Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 I also heard about the disparity of the media when referring to the looting as well. Also on CNN last night, Anderson Cooper was talking about how people from "NO" tyring to get to safety were not allowed into some parishes by the police and not only that, shots were fired in the air to scare them off. He said when he asked at least one chief about it, he kept contridicting himself. It is truly a sad state of affairs. Hopefully this is a lesson learned.
laRubiaBonita Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 i was watching the BBC news last night and they showed a new orleans resident with, among other arms, an AK47! (thanks to bush for letting that restiction lapse) his response was this was to "protect" him from looters, theives, riotors......... DUH..... What about the Freaking Hurricaine that preceeded the mass outbreak of chaos? and all he had left were his guns anyways. This is the mentality of many of the victims and as a result they are victimizing themselves.
RainyDayWoman Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 you know what, i'm not even going to comment, and i was. i am so tired of this "blacks as victims."
gigilani Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 you know what, i'm not even going to comment, and i was. i am so tired of this "blacks as victims." yes you did. If you truly didn't want to comment, you wouldn't have posted.
RainyDayWoman Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 yes you did. If you truly didn't want to comment, you wouldn't have posted. actually, you're mistaken. i did comment, then i edited to erase it, but couldn't leave it blank. hence my nevermind, and the reason i said nevermind.
gigilani Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 , i am so tired of this "blacks as victims." correct me if I'm wrong, but, was that not a comment?
Art_Critic Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 correct me if I'm wrong, but, was that not a comment? And just what is your purpose of these childish posts Gigilani.. Yes you did.. No I didn't.. Yes you did.. No I didn't. Do you have something to add to the OP's post ?
gigilani Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 I will ask the same of you. She made a backhanded comment & I called her on it. I don't understand how a lot of white people are dismissing the events that happened in the gulf as trivial and just the media playing up the race card. Racism still exists, no one is "playing" the race card, that is just fact and unfortunately there were some events, that occurred that would noted as a racist acts. What infuriates me even more are the racist or insensitive or ignorant comments being made whites throughout the internet and in conversations in general regarding Katrina and that is what I felt she was doing. So,if she didn't want a remark to be made to her posting, she shouldn't have posted. Is this not what this forum is for?
Art_Critic Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 I will ask the same of you. She made a backhanded comment & I called her on it. I don't understand how a lot of white people are dismissing the events that happened in the gulf as trivial and just the media playing up the race card. Racism still exists, no one is "playing" the race card, that is just fact and unfortunately there were some events, that occurred that would noted as a racist acts. What infuriates me even more are the racist or insensitive or ignorant comments being made whites throughout the internet and in conversations in general regarding Katrina and that is what I felt she was doing. So,if she didn't want a remark to be made to her posting, she shouldn't have posted. Is this not what this forum is for? I was calling you on yours and you just showed what I thought you seem fairly hostile .. Having a discussion with you would be pointless. You are only posting to get a reaction and I will not get sucked into your racist statements.
HokeyReligions Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 here is the real truth, they were watching our in need of help Americans die and suffer because they are afraid of us African Americans and other poor races & it make me mad because these scum just are sitting around while people die and it is sick. they can't even take care of our affairs here in America, how are they going to help other country's when this place is a hell hole. It made me sick to see Veterans dying and they fault for this country like my dad, & my step brother is now fighting in Iraq & even he called me & said that he feels ashamed & appalled at what he has saw this week from our fake country Who is this evil "they" you keep talking about? And why should "they" take care of those who refuse to help themselves? What about the State and Local government? The people that were ELECTED by those very same people who need so much help? Mayor Nagin -- who refuses to take any responsibility for his lack of action and his misuse of funds? I've heard so many people defend him and put the blame on President Bush -- which is just plain stupid. The governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans are/were charged with first-line protection of the citizens who elected them. Yes, the office of the President -- whoever that may be -- is charged with national responsibility; however, it is up to the individual States and Counties (or Parishes) to process information; care for their citizens; and act accordingly to the warnings they were given and to follow their State Constitution and then the Constitution of the United States. I have heard a LOT of people support Nagin only because he is Black. They dont seem to realize that the color of someone's skin does not make them an effective leader. I think he should be prosecuted just like the owners of one of the nursing homes who let 34 people die because they claimed they were waiting for an order of 'mandatory evacuation'. If leaders must wait until someone tells them what to do then they shouldn't be leaders. If the leader of one of the rescue groups had not ignored a directive from FEMA to not break into any more buildings -- just knock on doors and windows and holler out to see if anyone answers -- if he had seen that foot on the couch through a window and just marked the place as containing a body - the man they rescued 16 Days after the flood would not have survived. That man is a leader. He chose to break in and found a survivor and rescued him AND his dog. Nagin would not have done that -- he KNEW that it had the potential to destroy the city and he waited because he didn't want the responsibility. HE is the one who should have ordered the school busses to take people out of the poverty-stricken areas. He and the governor both had that authority. If the storm had not been bad then he would have taken some heat for 'wasting' money and instilling fear -- but people would be alive that are dead now. For the past week I've felt like I should apologize for being white and I'm sick of it. I know what being poor is like. I was raised in a poor household and I've been homeless too. While there are still thousands of volunteers (of all races) still working with evacuees it is becoming an eye-opening experience in how deep racial prejudice is ingrained in the black community. Yes, there are plenty of white racists around and they make the news - but the black person who hates "whitey" (and I've heard that word thrown around a lot lately) don't make the news because no one wants to admit that there are black racists out here too. I've heard plenty of black people too, who are ashamed of 'their people' but even that statement carries some racism with it. "their people" "my people" "your people" continue to drive a wedge between ALL people. Would I be nervous going into a neighborhood with a lot of healthy young men of a different color than me? Yes. Wouldn't anybody? Why is it "understandable" for a black person to be afraid of a group of white people, but it's racist for a white person to be afraid of a group of black people? Our very fear should smack us ALL in the face and unite us, but instead it drives us further apart.
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