sam light Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Been seeing this divorced business owner. She own a small factory. Wherever we go (motels, museums, movies, dinner etc) she tries to estimate the income that place generates. When she likes the numbers, she starts a similar business. She owns 4 businesses and all make a profit. Our date costs have been split 50-50 from the start. She is smart as a whip, and pretty. Tariffs are expected to make Chinese products more expensive. She is gearing up to manufacture bicycles. She couldn't compete with Chinese child labor before, but Tariffs will help. When they speak gloom & doom about tariffs, they don't mention that it could lead to products being manufactured locally again. We are going camping this weekend. She always brings her laptop as she can never really be totally away from work. But she still manages to spend lots of time with me. Our dates are fun but I don't see marriage in the future. She is far more driven than I am.
PRW Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 If you are not already in "The Friend Zone",...you might spent a little time in the "Friends with Benefits Zone" on the way to getting there. But you'll still end up there. There is no indication of any affection on her part. It seems like you are "just a buddy" and it is "just business". She is right about the Tariffs.
preraph Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 She sounds like a great person to hitch your wagon to. Of course, if she sees your wagon, she'll likely decide to manufacture them, but hey, nothing wrong with that. Don't go looking for trouble that isn't there. She's just passionate about what she does -- and passionate people are usually passionate with their lovelife too. 2
Normm Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Marriage is over rated. She's fun and she's got money. Have fun. 2
Author sam light Posted October 29, 2018 Author Posted October 29, 2018 If you are not already in "The Friend Zone",...you might spent a little time in the "Friends with Benefits Zone" on the way to getting there. But you'll still end up there. There is no indication of any affection on her part. It seems like you are "just a buddy" and it is "just business". She is right about the Tariffs. I didn't include graphic details (although I mentioned motels), but funny you assume I'm in the friend zone. We are well past that. She has a good financial track record. You're probably correct about her being right about Tariffs. 1
Normm Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 funny you assume I'm in the friend zone. We are well past that. Yeah I read that other post and wondered where the heck that "friendzone" stuff came from, there was nothing in your post to indicate that at all. Only that she's a workaholic and has trouble detaching and just relaxing. 1
Happy Lemming Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I'm curious about what types of bicycles she is going to manufacture?? Mountain Bikes?? Road Bikes?? E bikes?? Frame material?? Also what is the price point?? I treated myself to a new road bicycle this year (Aluminum Frame), fairly inexpensive. I'm really enjoying it, though.
alphamale Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I'm curious about what types of bicycles she is going to manufacture?? Mountain Bikes?? Road Bikes?? E bikes?? Frame material?? I think she's going to make phat tire bikes
PRW Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I didn't include graphic details (although I mentioned motels), but funny you assume I'm in the friend zone. We are well past that. She has a good financial track record. You're probably correct about her being right about Tariffs. First, I never said you were in the friend zone, I said "if you are not",...and that you are more likely in a FWB zone. You are never "past" the Friend Zone", it is always a future event. As I said you are probably in the Friends with Benefits Zone, which is the sexual "version" of the friend zone (hence the hotels). But when the sex goes away, you are left with just the Friend Zone. I say that because I see a lack of affection on her part (sex is not affection). She is not being feminine, she is behaving masculine. Paying her half of dates, analyzes everywhere you go as a business opportunity or education, never really "away" from work. Nothing feels romantic or has a romantic purpose. This is all masculine behavor. If she never moves into her feminine and stays in her masculine, then that will force you to be the one in a feminine role. If you allow yourself to move into a feminine position she will get bored with you, lose respect for you. You won't be a good "business prospect" to her and she will move on after giving you the "I just want to be friends" speech. You job is going to be to get her out of her masculine and into her feminine. Then get her away from the laptop and all thoughts of business out of her head. Your resistance to my comments tells me you are not at the point of acknowledging this situation, so there is a high change you will fail.
snowcones Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I have dated driven workaholics before. They are really cool to be around because you learn so much from them, benefit from being associated with them, the networking and sometimes you get to start business ventures with them. But outside of that they make lousy partners. They are too busy and focused elsewhere. So if you’re looking for something more you will feel unsatisfied with them eventually, but if you’re not looking for something more, then they are perfect. 2
preraph Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 It depends on the workaholic, I think. If they're passionate people, that will carry over to family life. If they're working to avoid family life, that's a different scenario entirely. One of my old bfs who I later worked with for years is a workaholic. So yes, he thinks that work comes first and is out of town away from his family a lot, so I'm sure that is sometimes inconvenient. But on the plus side, he frequently takes his girl camping one-on-one and spends a lot of quality time with her, and they do a lot of family vacations. It just depends on the person and their motivations. She sounds like she's just into it, and that's good.
sabaton Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Been seeing this divorced business owner. She own a small factory. Wherever we go (motels, museums, movies, dinner etc) she tries to estimate the income that place generates. When she likes the numbers, she starts a similar business. She owns 4 businesses and all make a profit. Our date costs have been split 50-50 from the start. She is smart as a whip, and pretty. Tariffs are expected to make Chinese products more expensive. She is gearing up to manufacture bicycles. She couldn't compete with Chinese child labor before, but Tariffs will help. When they speak gloom & doom about tariffs, they don't mention that it could lead to products being manufactured locally again. We are going camping this weekend. She always brings her laptop as she can never really be totally away from work. But she still manages to spend lots of time with me. Our dates are fun but I don't see marriage in the future. She is far more driven than I am. Do you really want to date someone who is married to her job, someone who is probably making an estimate of how much money she's missing out by going on dates with you because she could be using that time to make more money instead? And it's a good thing that marriage isn't on the horizon. You'd be expected to match her in ambition, income, and personal drive.
David33 Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 I'd rather have a driven woman than one that sits on their ass. You're 1/2 way there. Stop questioning it, treat her good and don't rock the boat. She'll take care of the rest. GL 2
Noproblem Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 It's sad that some men are so insecure and jealous if a woman is more driven than them. Here is a thought, just leave her alone, so she can find someone better who is not afraid to be with a successful woman! Try to find a woman that is inferior to you to feel better about yourself and your self-worth! 1
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