I played hard to get and the results paid off tonight!

[BaileyB]

What's with the parking lots?

 

Why can't you ask her for a real date?

 

This. A girl who was seriously interested in dating a guy would never settle for meeting in a parking lot.

 

She probably doesn't want to take you home because she doesn't want to introduce you to her boyfriend/husband and her child. And, that's probably also why she doesn't like flowers... it's hard to explain to her boyfriend/husband who gave her the flowers...

[Williamjacob]

Come guys I am trying my best here. I just got off the phone with her she was on her lunch/dinner break at 3.50 pm. I just suggested to meet-up at the McDonald's parking lot so we can talk in either of our SUV's or go into McDonald's to talk. She really doesn't have a lot of time to be with me so she's making the effort on her part on long calls sending them to tier 2. Unless I waste more time bringing her here that's another 10 minutes of driving. Where we could be talking already. Can't stop her from going to pickup her 6 year old from her parents.

 

How are you all seeing red flags here. I will take all your advises with me and apply them to good use to see where were are at. How is she so immature oh about the Facebook status: yeah I know that was lame to say your married and then say it's was a joke.

 

In less than 3 hours I'll be seeing her...

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

How are you all seeing red flags here.

 

How are you NOT? lol!!

 

You're meeting this woman in parking lots before she rushes off to "get her daughter from her parents." And you're believing her? Is she also going through the drive-through before she leaves to take food home to prove she was actually at McDonald's to her husband waiting at home?

 

You can't be serious.

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

Oh yes she doesn't like to be given flowers, less to think about.

 

I wouldn't either if I'd have to explain them to my husband.

[coolheadal]

I wouldn't either if I'd have to explain them to my husband.

 

Wow that's a bit harsh!

[Williamjacob]

How are you NOT? lol!!

 

You're meeting this woman in parking lots before she rushes off to "get her daughter from her parents." And you're believing her? Is she also going through the drive-through before she leaves to take food home to prove she was actually at McDonald's to her husband waiting at home?

 

You can't be serious.

 

I am man enough to say what you have described actually happen!

[Williamjacob]

Wow that's a bit harsh!

 

Yes your right it was harsh! I sad what happen tonight didn't go down as I had hope and I did asked those questions everyone posted here.

[Williamjacob]

I was there before she got off within 9 minutes she text me Hi and she was on her way. But why did it take her so long to get here. Did you know what she did she drove in and drove right by where I was parked like she didn't care to meet-up. What a nerve to do that. I had back out and drove around because her suv was in the drive through. Plus she parked in express pickup. Why didn't she park right next to me as planned?

 

Well she was on the cell talking to her daughter, she was so depressed. No fun with her tonight, I didn't plan on anything else too happen. Good thing I didn't have to spend money on her. No this wasn't a date this was just a get together she has issues now I know what Duke was talking about.

 

Issue #1.

When you make plans to meet someone a head of schedule what didn't you meet where they had text you where they where? She goes off the deep end and drives off into the drive thru..

 

Issue #2.

Did you forget about our night and why your out with me? She said I don't know what your talking about. WTF

 

Issue #3.

Are you or where you ever married to that man you said you were married to on Facebook. She said I don't know what your talking about. WTF

 

Issue #4.

Who is your daughters father is it the man you alleged to be your husband. Yes he's the man of which is my my daughters father.

 

Issue #5.

Are you seeing anyone else right now she said no, but she was seeing someone and just not seeing them again. WTF What do you mean by that? I was with someone but he treated me bad, how so she said I don't want to talk about it it was bad.

 

Issue #6.

What did you contact me on August 10th from the beauty salon? She said what are you talking about, did I call you I don't remember calling you up! WTF OMG seriously what do you think your in my seating with me in my SUV tonight? She doesn't remember why?

 

Issue #7.

You told me you had OCD, she said what gave you that idea I had that I don't have that? You told me you had it. Like this woman doesn't remember what she said to me on the cell. I can't believe this. This is worst than I had though.

 

Issue #8.

Is your so called kids father in your apartment right now? She said no with a grin I not living with no man now, he's comes and goes when he wants too. But has he been with your daughter yes. Does he live there no.

 

Issue #9.

Who is your daughter father to you. Get this part "HE'S MY PHOTO SHOOT PHOTOGRAPHER FOR MODELING. OMG WTF serious I nailed that one but all this means she's not telling the truth about him or it's just made up fantasy.

 

Issue #10.

What do you want from me and why are you so sad. Get this one wasn't expecting this. She so depressed because she doesn't have the money for college courses to become and RN. How much do you need, $30K. WOW! Can't you get the money from your parents nope. Baby father him forget it.

 

Issue #11.

What about us? This was the saddest part of this all. I feel she's married the way she talk and express herself to me. She never really looked me in my eye. I had to parked next to her in the pickup parking she didn't want to get in I told her to get in I am not driving off with you. She did climb in and close the door. Told me she couldn't say too long, kept on saying the same thing. This time she was playing with her cell phone. I know on LS that means they're not interested in you.

 

Issue #12.

Why did you come out with me tonight? She said she doesn't know. WTF. That's sad.

 

Issue #13.

Are you looking to get with me or not? She not ready for anyone else just herself only. Oh okay..

 

Issue #14.

Why did you want to come out to my house? She can't remember why she said that to me yesterday?

 

So I guess Duke ran into the same issues with her. So flirt, tease and play with men and what do you expect in return. They text her and she ghost them. But not me she trust me enough to text to me, call me up. I feel this woman really doesn't have much friends at all. She a knock out but her mind doesn't match her looks.

 

I told her it's okay I didn't want to put myself in a Friend-zone but I am with someone myself I didn't tell her that, I am not going to hang out with her again this one. I don't see myself hanging out with her, because what are we going to do, nothing and she'll forget why she come out. So she has some mental issues. To me the whole time she was depressed! She didn't do anything for her birthday.

 

I guess who know what's going to happen now... What you all think about all of this. I did ask her you bring the McDonald's you bought tonight back to your daughter or anyone else. She said no.

 

She's a LEO but to me this LEO not running on all 4's she's confused, she's not thinking straight. I can be friend to her but I can't expect more from that. The way the men have damaged her is bad enough.

 

I had asked her if the guys every told her they loved her or where in love with her. She said no. I guess you gone out with bad boy's she said yes and some where good. But they all treated her the same way.

 

That wraps up this story.. I was gong to play drums at our local drum circle but I lost interest after all this, plus it's was almost 9:30 pm. She had to go and buy hangers at the Dollar Dream Store, this was more important than being with me. Hangers won! I lost! Or did..

 

All I got was 3 huge hugs in my SUV...I had squeezed her.. Didn't feel right with her now.. ;(

 

She text had a safe drive home...

 

She text I got my hangers!

Edited August 23, 2018 by Williamjacob

[Desesperado]

You're listing 14 problems, it's pretty clear she's an attention whore, but you don't want to see red flags and what, you think you're going to be more present or aggressive and she won't ghost you like others, this looks like you have an ego, like nobody ghosts me I am great and will do whatever not to be ghosted...

 

You're saying it yourself, you could have gone drumming have a cool evening and she ruined your night, what's the point talking to such people, you're in denial man !

[BaileyB]

With all due respect, you shouldn't have 14 issues with a girl that you had never dated, texted a few times, and talked to in a parking lot.

 

As for issue number 11, there was no "us." We tried to tell you that. You have no right to be angry with this girl - you had never been on a date with her and you had no relationship with her. She was a virtual stranger, and to think anything else or have any expectation of this person is very presumptuous.

 

The writing was on the wall. You didn't read it.

[Williamjacob]

You're listing 14 problems, it's pretty clear she's an attention whore, but you don't want to see red flags and what, you think you're going to be more present or aggressive and she won't ghost you like others, this looks like you have an ego, like nobody ghosts me I am great and will do whatever not to be ghosted...

 

You're saying it yourself, you could have gone drumming have a cool evening and she ruined your night, what's the point talking to such people, you're in denial man !

 

Attention whore, wow really could be then again she is young though. Told me she was scared to turn 30 and don't have much accomplished in life. She look so distant in her eyes and sad. Even if she was this I can't feel sorry for her. The way she dresses sexing breast pushing up and rear end pushing down and everything it very tight on her. Weave changes each week at the salon. This is how she feels the child is cramping her style yet wanted a friend. The 6 year old has cell phone and laptop already. I had mentioned here that she had 6 year did a video of her both doing butt kicks on Facebook. I am not sad but I understand what has happen last night.

 

Issues #1 to 14 I should have said those where the questions I've asked her. She really didn't know why she came to McDonald's parking lot. I didn't get upset or show weakness. I am always assertive!

 

She told me she wanted to hangout with me as she hasn't had with any of the other men. She just not happy with her life and herself. Attention yes I would make it sound like she was attention whore. I don't think she's like that. She doesn't have much friends that are close to her. Men will only want her for sex and sleeping with her. I didn't want that with her, I just wanted to get to know her that's all. It old her last night. She wasn't looking for a new man now all the men have hurt in her in some way or form she didn't trust men. But she trusted me.

 

She said she'll be working Saturday on her day off for overtime money. She's broke and not making enough at $13 an hour. You got $920 rent, 6 year old and your hair salons and the wear you appeal towards men.

 

I am also doing something for her and for me to see if we could make some extra money. She will be a friend for now. I guess I am giving her good attention. I will never know why she has reached out to me. I like to figure things out before I make a call on anything. It's all good with me and her but I am not going back to any more parking lots with her. She really seems daze and confused the entire time she was we me. I was surprise she gave me 3 tight huge hugs in my SUV. She had 1960's eye lid lashes those large ones. She was very sad and depressed. I never said anything harsh to her. Sometimes a smile would come out.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Williamjacob

[ExpatInItaly]

OP, this is not what dating looks like. Not even the beginning of dating.

 

Forgive me for asking, as I don't mean to sound unkind, but have you had a girlfriend before? You come across as well-intentioned but very naive and inexperienced.

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

Her saying "I don't know" over and over is not an indication of a mental issue or "sadness." She's just a really bad liar.

 

Her game from the beginning was to reel you in to eventually get money from you. Don't give her any money. Don't even try to help her "make some extra money." What exactly is your plan here to make you both some money?

 

You need to be very careful here. You don't wan to end up as the man shot to death in his truck in the McDonald's parking lot when her man has followed her there and catches her with you.

[BaileyB]

Her saying "I don't know" over and over is not an indication of a mental issue or "sadness." She's just a really bad liar.

 

Her game from the beginning was to reel you in to eventually get money from you. Don't give her any money. Don't even try to help her "make some extra money." What exactly is your plan here to make you both some money?

 

You need to be very careful here. You don't wan to end up as the man shot to death in his truck in the McDonald's parking lot when her man has followed her there and catches her with you.

 

Absolutely. You have a false sense of closeness to this woman such that you make a lot of assumptions about her life, what she wants, and how she is feeling.

 

I totally believe her comment that she "doesn't know" really meant - "I don't want to answer your question" more than anything else...

 

I would not go to her home OP, ever. This is the kind of situation where the unsuspecting man goes home with the girl expecting sex only to be beaten and robbed by another man. It's happened twice in my city in recent years - both online dates gone bad.

[Williamjacob]

Her saying "I don't know" over and over is not an indication of a mental issue or "sadness." She's just a really bad liar.

 

Her game from the beginning was to reel you in to eventually get money from you. Don't give her any money. Don't even try to help her "make some extra money." What exactly is your plan here to make you both some money?

 

You need to be very careful here. You don't wan to end up as the man shot to death in his truck in the McDonald's parking lot when her man has followed her there and catches her with you.

 

I knew what you said I had my iPad and my cell to do hot spot and come on live with her here. But got mixed signals when I seen her pass right by me to the drive through window. You said the same thing would happen. Boy your right on cue. Yes I am aware of the men following her around that's why I will never go to her apartment lair or bring her to my crib (street lingo) She not thinking and looks like she doesn't give care. I had gone to see her for a reason to find out why she called me up? You said for money, I think she doesn't even know. I would never give her $30K why would I. But remember on her face book page is said: If you don't support me you can't be with me?

 

She doesn't like her job yet she was excited to learn she make the top in her job with lower AUX numbers (means the time you keep the customer on hold). I say Whooie Doo! to also she had to go to the dollar dreams to buy hangers at 9:30 pm those places already close by 8 to 9 pm she's lying with devilish look in her eyes. Some guy did something her before she came out or left her a text message because she was holding her phone and looking at it. Her cell phone fell out of her hand hit my SUV floor. She was a mess from the start. She kept complaining she was so tired she had to leave soon. This gone on for a long time she kept looking at time saying the same thing. But she does want attention I knew that much.

 

She doesn't want to date anyone now she just so confused. I again she was completely different in my SUV. I was thinking to myself what the heck I came out for this hot mess. She's loosing it and I am listening to her bologna reasoning for what, why and how she became like this.

 

I am sure men are watching her at her apartment they already throwing eggs at her SUV did I mention that to LS, I guess not. She claims they're parking in her spot and it drives her mad. There is a video on Facebook where a woman drove in front of her on the same lane. She started to swear on the video saying she wasn't going to F/swear repeatedly. But only men responded to her video likes and video comments.

 

Again all she does on Facebook is for attention, I knew that much. I just wanted to see her outside the job, to see how Duke had to go through the very same thing. I can't contact him I am not at the work place. But he wasn't happy with her. Now I know what he meant by her issues. Where she lives you don't want to be there late at night even though she's in a gated apartment complex.

 

Trash you all say here but still a person calling out for help. I won't bring her to my house because I kinda knew she was trouble, but I am a risk taker just wanted to see on neutral ground my area is A+ no crime where I was is controlled by top gun police department so no worries. Where she lives high crime F area. Just don't want go there. She use to work for Sprint and quit that job for this one she should have stayed with Sprint.

 

Anyway don't worry I will not bother with her, I working on something but she and a device that wasn't working I told her I could get that to work but that has nothing to do with her contacting me. She told me about it when we were at training class together. Boy she can really tell a story and sometimes you want to believe in them but it never added up last night.

 

I've dated before most were book worms types. I am not dumb, just trying to figure her out. Thanks to you all and some of you tried to warn me. I was thinking to myself if she moved in here with me it would drive everyone around me crazy.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Williamjacob

[d0nnivain]

The more you post the scarier this chick looks.

 

She makes a lot of bad decisions. When you only earn $13 / hour & are broke you don't get your weave changed weekly at the salon. You learn to save $$.

 

Be careful. This woman does not strike me as fully formed adult yet. All the attention seeking is BAD. Even if you become official, she won't stop with these other men. Are you sure you want to deal with that? Go back to the book worms. You will be happier.

[Williamjacob]

The more you post the scarier this chick looks.

 

She makes a lot of bad decisions. When you only earn $13 / hour & are broke you don't get your weave changed weekly at the salon. You learn to save $$.

 

Be careful. This woman does not strike me as fully formed adult yet. All the attention seeking is BAD. Even if you become official, she won't stop with these other men. Are you sure you want to deal with that? Go back to the book worms. You will be happier.

 

I am worried about all of this now, but I didn't show fear with her. She told me so many men text her and try to call her on Facebook Messenger. With the type of pictures she posted on their no wonder. I told her it wasn't my business to say but why did you post pictures of herself that way. She said those were pictures of her modeling shoot. But they were way to sexual and sensual. She had only one picture of her baby girl the rest were only her. She post videos of some odd things on her timeline after our encounter. Yes she's younger than me, all she talks about is folding and washing clothes. Her life is boring. I made the mistake and told her if we could hangout Friday? She said she couldn't remember hanging out, she thought it would be neat. I hope she forgets that request like with everything else she has forgotten. What a shame she's only about money, looks and fixing her hair weave at the salon. Hangers were the most important subject last night next to some guy she was seeing but not seeing because he treated her bad. The gas station she was 100% happier than last night at McDonald's with the depression mood expression that was on her face and mind. I am glad we never gone into the McDonald's and sat down like normal people.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Williamjacob

[d0nnivain]

So what is your plan now?

 

Are you still trying to date her? If so why? I don't see any indication that she wants to change, become more responsible or let go of all the men who flatter her. IMO your best way not to show fear here is to walk away.

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

I am worried about all of this now, but I didn't show fear with her. She told me so many men text her and try to call her on Facebook Messenger. With the type of pictures she posted on their no wonder. I told her it wasn't my business to say but why did you post pictures of herself that way. She said those were pictures of her modeling shoot. But they were way to sexual and sensual. She had only one picture of her baby girl the rest were only her. She post videos of some odd things on her timeline after our encounter. Yes she's younger than me, all she talks about is folding and washing clothes. Her life is boring. I made the mistake and told her if we could hangout Friday? She said she couldn't remember hanging out, she thought it would be neat. I hope she forgets that request like with everything else she has forgotten. What a shame she's only about money, looks and fixing her hair weave at the salon. Hangers were the most important subject last night next to some guy she was seeing but not seeing because he treated her bad. The gas station she was 100% happier than last night at McDonald's with the depression mood expression that was on her face and mind. I am glad we never gone into the McDonald's and sat down like normal people.

 

Sounds to me like she may have a side job as a prostitute. She may even have a pimp. Be careful...

[Williamjacob]

So what is your plan now?

 

Are you still trying to date her? If so why? I don't see any indication that she wants to change, become more responsible or let go of all the men who flatter her. IMO your best way not to show fear here is to walk away.

 

I don't know right this minute and I am not thinking about all of this. I have life too but won't be with her at my side. She's involve with things I don't or would think about. No she doesn't do drugs or drink. No tattoos either. She goes to church with her parents on Sundays. But the men and her is the issue for me. Not even 30 yet how many has she been with and being pregnant at age 23 I am estimating here. Right now she's CNA told me pay was a joke and she failed the test for RN entrance. Her schedule is off the chart. Yes I also agree she does have some mental and emotional issues. Once I give her back her device that will be it. I will do that in a public place like a mall inside of it.. In my back of the woods not where she lives. No way..

Edited August 23, 2018 by Williamjacob

[Williamjacob]

Sounds to me like she may have a side job as a prostitute. She may even have a pimp. Be careful...

 

Can I ask you a question? Are you Psychic?

[Williamjacob]

I know this doesn't have anything to do with dating anything but I had promise her something she really enjoys eating, but I forgot to bring it with me. But at lease that had put her mine off the subject and she smiled. Times like this with a person like her just won't know why she called out to me that day from the salon and the calls after that for hours telling me what movies, food and etc she was into. Setting up times to meet-up and etc. The rest you all know here now. The truth of the matter is I don't see anything with her and me. The both of us are from to different lifestyles. She's from islands by the way I thought with her up bringing she would be more faithful to her man. But I believe she's married and she's just lying about being married. But that guy she loved him enough to have a child with him who she enjoys. I guess with his busy schedule she doesn't have enough attention. I was very complimentary with her in the training class and I guess in her mind she had seen that as something she could focus on. But after 3 weeks and then leaving like I did she called me out for who knows why. I made it clear what I was seeking, she accept it, but again she falls back into the gutter and deal with trashing men who just break her heart by cheating on her. I at time I didn't think she was married but on the phone she would say to her daughter did you daddy buy you those sneakers. She did tell me he does come over at times to see they child. So he's still in her life. She told me at training he was gone and not her in life. I can't see nothing but gloom with her. I am not calling or texting her again just leave it be. She calls me I am not jumping up I'll just sit there. I don't see why what's the point in all of this.

[Art_Critic]

But I believe she's married and she's just lying about being married.

 

It does seem that way, and honestly since you don't know what the real truth is as it could be many things at the very least she is involved or tied to someone else and not available to you.

 

Don't let her use you anymore...and it's a good thing that you didn't give her any money too as it seems that is also a partial reason you are in the picture.

 

Don't contact her anymore and if she contacts you ignore her texts...

Be glad and proud of yourself as well.. she was looking to use you and if it had gone physical as she was looking for it to you would have been sucked into the drama/mess that is her life...

[CautiouslyOptimistic]

Can I ask you a question? Are you Psychic?

 

No, I am not a psychic.

[Williamjacob]

It does seem that way, and honestly since you don't know what the real truth is as it could be many things at the very least she is involved or tied to someone else and not available to you.

 

Don't let her use you anymore...and it's a good thing that you didn't give her any money too as it seems that is also a partial reason you are in the picture.

 

Don't contact her anymore and if she contacts you ignore her texts...

Be glad and proud of yourself as well.. she was looking to use you and if it had gone physical as she was looking for it to you would have been sucked into the drama/mess that is her life...

 

In a way she has never used me for anything. I trying to fix something for her it was my suggestion to do. I didn't have anything here to try as a test bed experiment on. Her device wasn't working.. Well at lease that was the truth she had something I needed. I did go out to speak with her and clear things up for I decided the next course of action. But I wanted her to speak and tell me in her own little words what she was going for.

 

About the tuition fees. Was one of the main issues she had.

I asked what it was and she said she didn't have the money for college to become an RN? So I said how much do you need? She said well, let me see, okay I think it is? Her facial gestures was amazing.. So the figure was $30,000 and she didn't have it. I had first suggest why not get a grant or try to get student aid.

 

Funny I just thought of it now all those men following her on facebook could donate to her college fund: 1,071 x $100 = $107,100.00 She'll have enough money and more to spend.