alphamale Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Keep telling yourself that and you'll end up with what you deserve - a fellow game-player. And good luck with that. the only people I know of who don't "play games" are dead people....everyone does it to some extent and if you tell me, OUTCAST, that you've never played games then I'll laugh soooo hard...
Dean3922 Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Oh really? I'm sure women everywhere thank you for speaking for them. Keep telling yourself that and you'll end up with what you deserve - a fellow game-player. And good luck with that. Yes, really OUTCAST. I speak for men because women will not admit to the truth. If you want to know about women ask a man.
RainyDayWoman Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 i think it's okay for guys to be in touch with their emotions (considering you may be mentally ill otherwise) but i don't think it means they're gay. that's like asking if a guy who sleeps only with guys but drives a motorcycle is straight.......no. however, if a guy is allllll about emotion and feeling and cries a lot, i won't think he's gay, but i will think he is a huge p*ussy...and i have no patience for that guy.
Pyro Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 I'm not gay. I consider myself to be a sensitive guy. I don't treat people like garbage, I am not selfish, and I am very considerate of everyone else's feelings. You can't speak for all women when you say that they love a guy who can be an as#hole to them. My most recent relationship was by far my greatest one yet. I was very open to her, I shared my feelings and I treated her like an angel. Not once did I treat her like s#it because I felt like that is what she wanted. Not all women need a guy to be both nice and mean to her.
AmberAriesMom Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 alphamale, could it be that you are a sensitive man afraid of being hurt so you hurt your women first? ej, those peaks and valleys you speak of are parts of life, lulls and highs, and just because YOU can't handle them does not mean you have to create trouble just to stay on either a peak or a valley. Who REALLY has a problem with peaks and valleys, eh?
Author flowergirl Posted September 2, 2005 Author Posted September 2, 2005 Riddler: That's cool. It's nice to know that there are sensitive guys out there who aren't gay. Yeah, Riddler, I definitely agree with the assessment that there are still girls out there who are looking for genuinely good, nice guys.
elijahBailey Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 So EB and Alpha, are you truly insensitive or do you pretend a little bit to keep the woman's interest? nooo RP, I don't disguise who I am, and if I do, I would be sniffed out a mile away. I don't try to be insensitive, but I always appears so to some women. I don't get that part, 'cos I would cringe if I imagine myself to be too sensitive and whiney. I just don't like the thought of women walking over me; it's just me, I guess. However, when I feel I'm being played or taken for a ride, my defence mechanism kicks in, and that's when I can be a real jerk. I have the feeling that my BF sometimes pretends to not be so interested and thinks that he is achieveing something by that But how long can a person pretend? I'm guessing he's being who he is, and despite all the things you say about him..... like 'insensitive', 'disinterested', etc, etc...... really that's what attracted you to him. And, no, I'm not kidding the only people I know of who don't "play games" are dead people.... LMAO, but yeah, I think all people do it .... in varying degrees. Why do we do so? I dunno; I think it's just instinctive And we love the challenge as well. ej, those peaks and valleys you speak of are parts of life, lulls and highs, and just because YOU can't handle them does not mean you have to create trouble just to stay on either a peak or a valley. Who REALLY has a problem with peaks and valleys, eh? naw, girl, I don't have a problem handling it. These are merely my observations. And, no, I do not create these cycles for manipulative purposes. It just turns out this way. When I don't try, I'm called a jerk.... so I try to be nice and sensitive to my girl once in a while. I struggle with being a guy and being accomodating as well. These are the 'peaks and the valleys' I was talking about. But, seriously, if you're too nice to a girl, she walks all over you. And I'm not kidding on this one either
RecordProducer Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I don't get your way of thinking at times Alpha, but if it works for you and keeps the women you date interested and on their toes, then all the power to you. Yeah, they walk away on their toes before Alpha wakes up... and that's what Alpha wanted to achieve with every woman he screwed. Thnx for your replies, Alpha and EB!
alphamale Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Yeah, they walk away on their toes before Alpha wakes up... actually RP that is not true at all. The women stick around and I usually end up having to dump them 80% of time. And as you are aware it is usually women that do the dumping of the man 80% of the time . I essence what most females want is a well rounded man who can be tough and sensitive, a man who can give and take. A man who can provide resources. A man who is not afraid to be selfish at times and look out for himself also. I am that man. And most women love it.
RecordProducer Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I was joking anyway. But sounds kewl to me how you describe yourself. You're a true macho! Not sure that women do 80% of the dumping though... maybe only in lesbian relationships (women do 80% of the dumping )!
alphamale Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Not sure that women do 80% of the dumping though... well, in the U.S. 75% of divorces are filed by the woman. And in real life my experience with friends and family and co-workers has been that the female leaves the man most of the time.
AmberAriesMom Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 nooo RP, I don't disguise who I am, and if I do, I would be sniffed out a mile away. I don't try to be insensitive, but I always appears so to some women. I don't get that part, 'cos I would cringe if I imagine myself to be too sensitive and whiney. I just don't like the thought of women walking over me; it's just me, I guess. However, when I feel I'm being played or taken for a ride, my defence mechanism kicks in, and that's when I can be a real jerk. But how long can a person pretend? I'm guessing he's being who he is, and despite all the things you say about him..... like 'insensitive', 'disinterested', etc, etc...... really that's what attracted you to him. And, no, I'm not kidding LMAO, but yeah, I think all people do it .... in varying degrees. Why do we do so? I dunno; I think it's just instinctive And we love the challenge as well. naw, girl, I don't have a problem handling it. These are merely my observations. And, no, I do not create these cycles for manipulative purposes. It just turns out this way. When I don't try, I'm called a jerk.... so I try to be nice and sensitive to my girl once in a while. I struggle with being a guy and being accomodating as well. These are the 'peaks and the valleys' I was talking about. But, seriously, if you're too nice to a girl, she walks all over you. And I'm not kidding on this one either I know there are some as*holic women out and about. But pray tell, what do you mean by "walk all over you"? Examples, please.
elijahBailey Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 I know there are some as*holic women out and about. But pray tell, what do you mean by "walk all over you"? Examples, please. if you're too nice to a girl, and she thinks she's got you in her pouch, she'll think.... 1. she's da stuff 2. she's got the goods 3. her market value's just gone up 4. the other guys most likely dig her the same more often than not, this gives them the ammunition to be bolder with other guys, and treat you like your market value just went down a notch. And since I'm not one who appreciates divided attention, I go into the 'defensive' mode.
elijahBailey Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 well, in the U.S. 75% of divorces are filed by the woman. yeah, you wouldn't wanna mess around with women in this country And in real life my experience with friends and family and co-workers has been that the female leaves the man most of the time. Typical.... that's cos the men claim the larger percentage of the cheating. The guy thinks 'hey I wouldn't mind staying in the marriage and having another chick on the side', but the girl thinks 'no freakin' way'... And that's when the girls decides to dump their guys' sweet a*s.
AmberAriesMom Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 if you're too nice to a girl, and she thinks she's got you in her pouch, she'll think.... 1. she's da stuff 2. she's got the goods 3. her market value's just gone up 4. the other guys most likely dig her the same more often than not, this gives them the ammunition to be bolder with other guys, and treat you like your market value just went down a notch. And since I'm not one who appreciates divided attention, I go into the 'defensive' mode. I'm sure sorry you've experienced such rotten females as that....as long as it's not your imagination working overtime. I do know some women fairly suk....there are some women who rarely have many female friends because they know how other women can be and they hate it too. Maybe you need to find you a female who doesn't have many female friends. But then you run the risk of having to be the best man among all other males she gets along with.
alphamale Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 Typical.... that's cos the men claim the larger percentage of the cheating. The guy thinks 'hey I wouldn't mind staying in the marriage and having another chick on the side', but the girl thinks 'no freakin' way'... And that's when the girls decides to dump their guys' sweet a*s. actually E.B., studies show that men and women cheat at about the same rates. the thing is that women are much smarter and sneakier and hide their tracks better so they get busted much less often. This makes it LOOK like men are cheating more than women but in actuality they both cheat about the same.
RecordProducer Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 if you're too nice to a girl, and she thinks she's got you in her pouch, she'll think.... 1. she's da stuff 2. she's got the goods 3. her market value's just gone up 4. the other guys most likely dig her the same more often than not, this gives them the ammunition to be bolder with other guys, and treat you like your market value just went down a notch. And since I'm not one who appreciates divided attention, I go into the 'defensive' mode. WOW!! EB, you just opened my eyes about something! You and Alpha seem so valuable to me with all your statements. You're open about your views and don't give me the metro-mental-sexual crap I hear from some people. This world is not based on moral values only. It's based on nature. Even the moral codex is based on our nature. E.g. cheating is considered bad because we are jealous and possessive, not because one loses something when the other partner has sex on aside. We need to be good parents because out kids need us, not because it says so in some book. Got it?
elijahBailey Posted September 4, 2005 Posted September 4, 2005 actually E.B., studies show that men and women cheat at about the same rates. the thing is that women are much smarter and sneakier and hide their tracks better so they get busted much less often. This makes it LOOK like men are cheating more than women but in actuality they both cheat about the same. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were true. Studies does show women as being more accurate sniffing out men's misdemeanors than the other way round. Women are pretty intuitive creatures. And men can be pretty dumb.
elijahBailey Posted September 4, 2005 Posted September 4, 2005 WOW!! EB, you just opened my eyes about something! I did? You and Alpha seem so valuable to me with all your statements.stop .... you're making me blush E.g. cheating is considered bad because we are jealous and possessive, not because one loses something when the other partner has sex on aside. ..... but one does lose something.... the trust. And, also, I can't face the guilt myself. If I cheated, the guilt will eat me up way before she finds out We need to be good parents because out kids need us, not because it says so in some book. Got it? got it and I agree with you. Our actions, good or bad, have lasting effects on the kids.
RecordProducer Posted September 4, 2005 Posted September 4, 2005 : .. but one does lose something.... the trust. And, also, I can't face the guilt myself. If I cheated, the guilt will eat me up way before she finds out. My point was simply that the moral value system is based on what we like and dislike. Sleeping on aside is bad because it hurts us, not because of anything else. The guilt would eat me up too.
jaye Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 Hey Alphamale I Liked Lots Of Your Posts And Agree To Them I Have A Question Since You Know More Then I Do About Women Their Moves And All The Good Stuff. I Have A Beast Friend Or Say I Had A Best Friend About 4 Years Ago I Met Them Her And Her G/f Well Tehy Are Lesbians I Didn't Care To Me They Are People And Then I Am Bisexual Myself So I Really Didn't Care Anyways As They Say That You Don't Fell In Love On Your Own It Just Happens When It Happend To Me Guess What Wrong Girl Wrong Time Wrong Place Everything Wrong Wrong Girl Means It Was My Best Friend Wrong Time Means She Was Going Through Hard Time With Her G/f Wrong Place Means It Was A Gaybar Where I Confessed They Say Men Shouldn't Cry But I Cry Man Its Been 6 Plus Monthes Everytime I Close My Eyes I See Nothing But Her. I Cry Like Babies Sometimes I Was Shy To Tell Someone That I Cry But I Got Over With It. What Happend Was One Of My Friend Said That There Is Nothing Better Then Just Being Honest You Should Go And Tell Her They Way You Feel Its Better For Both Of You I Never Wanted To Be With Her In First Place Because I Knew Her Lifestyle She Is A Lesbian I Just Didn't Wanted To Screwup My Friendship. I Did I F*** The Whole Thing Up. 6 Monthes I Havent Heard From Her She Is Not Where She Used To Live She Wont Call Me Or Pickup My Phone Calls. I Tried Everything She Is Like Disappeared Her G/f Wont Talk To Me Either, I Think They Broke Up But God Knows If Its Cus Of Me? I Don't Know What To Do All I Have Is Her Phone Number. Just Know That I Am Willing To Do Anything To Get My Friendship Back.
hopelessly hopefull Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 What it really means is there's no pleasing a woman. One woman says, my guy is too sensitive, treats me well, brings me flowers and wants to talk about love and happiness. HELP! Another woman says, my guy is insensitive, treats me like crap, never brings me flowers and never wants to talk about our relationship. HELP! :lmao:
Mary3 Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 Alpha....I think you read too many books.....some truth to your words but you catagorize seemingly all women into one scheming stereotypical man eating shark manipulative biaotch who leaves her man in the dustThink your hilarious anyway....but put down those books lol
housebaby Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 there are some women who rarely have many female friends because they know how other women can be and they hate it too. Maybe you need to find you a female who doesn't have many female friends. But then you run the risk of having to be the best man among all other males she gets along with. This is me. I have a hard time trusting women as friends....seems that there are so many girls who are plain old COMPETATIVE/VINDICTIVE FEMALES! Maybe it's because I've been f*cked over by so many girls that it's "scarred" me from fully trusting them....who knows? As for a man: In some ways, I think the guys are right. I look for a guy who is strong yet caring, masculine and confidant, protective and edgy (keeps me safe), passionate and open....he can confide in me, tell me anything - but doesn't show weakness unless we are alone. He doesn't have to be a jerk (especially for no reason!) I don't mind him being a jerk to other people (at work, etc) as long as he can still respect me and treat me with respect. He should stand up for himself - not let ANYONE walk all over him....I can't stand a guy who is too infatuated with me, it's a turn-off. Give me some mystery! Anyone who professes "love" in the first 3-6 months is questionable...any guy who cries infront of me (exluding death/loss tears) is see as weak, and probably won't be able to protect me....and I will eventually lose interest with "alligator tears". Basically - the thrill of the chase is exciting and new - if the novelty wares off...it cause me to lose interest. I definitely want some mystery and excitement in my relationships....and NO it hasn't really worked for me, I obviously like a**h***s, and that's my problem I guess!! But, it's the truth.
fusangite Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 Guys like me who are ineffective at concealing their emotional nature are as good as gay, in that we might as well be gay for how effectively this kind of behaviour turns women off. Like gay men, we don't get to sleep with women. Unlike gay men, however, we don't enjoy sleeping with guys.
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