28 year old guy - should I completely ignore dating for about 10 years???

[mike3838]

Not really. You could say men sleep down and women sleep up. But people tend to date their equals.

 

What gym do you go to were a ton of girls look like justin beibers model ex dam no wonder you have body images issues

 

 

what are you smoking by the way? women don't date their equals

 

look up hypergamy. A female 7 nowadays wants a perfect male 10/10

[Versacehottie]

women date up in society

men date way down

 

wow, that's objectifying. Where the f is the eye roll emoji?

[mike3838]

wow, that's objectifying. Where the f is the eye roll emoji?

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

is that better???

 

[d0nnivain]

based on what??

 

 

I don't have any more facts then you do.

 

 

You look at her & say she won't go out with you so you don't talk to her. That makes you right. She won't go out with you because you didn't ask.

 

 

I look at her & think she looks like a nice enough person. She'd be polite if someone spoke to her. She's also probably sick of guys who don't talk to her because they wrongly think she won't talk to them.

 

 

I find it hard to believe that women your age you approach are repulsed by you. If they are, you have to be doing something. This is why you need somebody in real life to give you feedback.

 

 

There's a radio show on in NYC called "Blown off" people call because they went on 1 or 2 dates then never heard from the person again but they don't know why. When the dumper reveals the why on the air it seems like it would be obvious but the caller didn't get it. I have heard the following:

 

 

* guy hit on her 15 year old sister

 

 

* girl took him to a family party then kissed every male there on "the lips" because they were her friends

 

 

* woman was 6 months pregnant on the date

 

 

* guy offered her heroin on the date

 

 

* guy only wanted to talk about politics (whatever side your on, picture the other person being a die hard supporter of the other side)

 

 

* girl confessed she once slept with her step brother

 

 

* while driving his date home guy got cut off in traffic, the followed the offending other driver for 2 miles at high speed, flashing his brights, honking & flipping the guy off

 

 

My point is none of those callers saw anything wrong in their behavior. "I was being honest." "I offered to share." "I need to stick up for myself." They just didn't get it.

 

 

So all I can think of is that there must be something you are missing. When somebody who knows you explains it to you, then you can deal with it.

[Versacehottie]

Exactly my point. So why have you put these women on a pedestal by calling them the top 0.000001% when you know nothing about their personality? I bet you feel inferior to beautiful women and that in itself is a turn off.

 

i actually follow that girl he posted on instagram and lots of the other women fitness models. I don't remember her posting anything about her bf (i can check). But there are a couple of them on there that post their bf's pics and they are kinda average looking guys, little better than average, usually trim compact muscles. Not 6'4", 260. Out of all her and her colleagues maybe one or two have a bf in that ht/wt range. The commonality i've seen is that these hfs seem to adore them and have other nice qualities above and beyond their looks.

 

This particular fitness model is more on the body building side of things so yes she might be more attracted to that kind of guy because she is that type of girl. That lifestyle is a full time job. The less built up girls seem to care about their guy's physique in a way that the OP isn't getting (among other things) not rigid but met the right person.

[FilterCoffee]

there are 20 girls at least at my gym who are insanely perfect shape. I've never approached any of them- I didn't want to be the standard gym douche hitting on a girl and making her feel awkward as ****.

 

If you ask all 20 out then you’ll definitely become the gym douche so be selective. Speak to all of them and get to know their personality. I’m sure out of the 20, you’ll lose attraction for some, some will be in relationships and some won’t be into you. With whoever’s left, ask the girl you’re most attracted to.

[jay1983]

Your threads are always entertaining man.

 

You say you make plenty of cash, maybe see yourself a therapist and tell them about these threads you make. They can probably help if be completely honest with them.

 

That's assuming you're not just playing around on the internet, which I've often wondered.

[Versacehottie]

:rolleyes:

 

 

is that better???

 

 

omg some personality...finally:bunny:

[Versacehottie]

Your threads are always entertaining man.

 

You say you make plenty of cash, maybe see yourself a therapist and tell them about these threads you make. They can probably help if be completely honest with them.

 

That's assuming you're not just playing around on the internet, which I've often wondered.

 

yeah, suspect it's gonna devolve from here:sick:

[FilterCoffee]

The less built up girls seem to care about their guy's physique in a way that the OP isn't getting (among other things) not rigid but met the right person.

 

That’s what I take advantage of

[Highndry]

their body language and energy

 

they were all very VERY irritated by my presence. I didn't say anything weird or unusual either - just normal friendly conversation. I don't say weird pickup lines or anything sexual. I don't care about getting laid

 

Maybe I just need to wait until 35 and look for like a 34 year old? lots of people have kids late 30s nowadays

 

ive wanted a girlfriend since I was 16 to no luck at all. What's another 6 years gonna hurt??

 

If you're in your 30's and you haven't had a girlfriend since 16, there's something deeply wrong with your approach or your personality. As mentioned, this goes way beyond looks, which you seem almost completely focused on.

[Miss Spider]

i actually follow that girl he posted on instagram and lots of the other women fitness models. I don't remember her posting anything about her bf (i can check). But there are a couple of them on there that post their bf's pics and they are kinda average looking guys, little better than average, usually trim compact muscles. Not 6'4", 260. Out of all her and her colleagues maybe one or two have a bf in that ht/wt range. The commonality i've seen is that these hfs seem to adore them and have other nice qualities above and beyond their looks.

 

This particular fitness model is more on the body building side of things so yes she might be more attracted to that kind of guy because she is that type of girl. That lifestyle is a full time job. The less built up girls seem to care about their guy's physique in a way that the OP isn't getting (among other things) not rigid but met the right person.

 

She's dating (or was) some tween pop singer. (I thought it was justin beiber) but I googled it and it was some guy named singer named Austin Mahone. So..famous.

ANYWAY back on topic

EDIT : sorry I just realized you were talking about other fitness models bfs not this girl in particular Yes, plenty have avg looking bfs (at least imo)

Edited January 26, 2018 by Cookiesandough

[Highndry]

Somebody mentioned you're Middle Eastern. Is that right? If so, do you have an accent? That can be off-putting to certain women. There's definitely a "type" that would date you, and would not date you. It's a taboo subject, but it's reality.

[olivetree]

I'm beginning to think you haven't actually approached many women, but the times you did were not successful.

Now you are making excuses to not even try.

 

If that really isn't the case, you need to find someone in real life who can be brutally honest with you about the way you come across (tone, mannerisms, vibe, etc).

 

In any case, no don't take 10 years off of dating.

That is as ridiculous as saying every woman wants a 6'4 meathead.

[mike3838]

omg some personality...finally:bunny:

 

 

I have plenty personality in life

 

this thread is a bitch-a-thon. I'm not like this in real life

 

in real life I'm all about having a good time

[FilterCoffee]

I don't have them on pedestal- society does

 

Maybe society does but that doesn’t mean you have to have them there. For me they’re just good looking because I know nothing else about them.

[mike3838]

Somebody mentioned you're Middle Eastern. Is that right? If so, do you have an accent? That can be off-putting to certain women. There's definitely a "type" that would date you, and would not date you. It's a taboo subject, but it's reality.

 

 

no I've been in US since I was 8. I speak very eloquent and perfect English

 

I'm Christian also BTW.

[mike3838]

If you're in your 30's and you haven't had a girlfriend since 16, there's something deeply wrong with your approach or your personality. As mentioned, this goes way beyond looks, which you seem almost completely focused on.

 

I'm 28 and have never had a girlfriend. I've wanted one since I was 15

[mike3838]

That’s what I take advantage of

 

 

here's the weird thing about it - I'm 5'10 195. I'm more muscular than 99.9% of American society (I posted 2 pics also )

 

 

and it still wouldn't be nearly enough for those really attractive women at my gym. They're likely all wanting juicehead gorillas. Not a natural guy like me who still looks healthy and athletic. I've never touched a steroid in my life. I'm as natural and as healthy as it gets. Most of those girls want a guy who sucks down the juice 24-7

[mike3838]

I'm beginning to think you haven't actually approached many women, but the times you did were not successful.

Now you are making excuses to not even try.

 

If that really isn't the case, you need to find someone in real life who can be brutally honest with you about the way you come across (tone, mannerisms, vibe, etc).

 

In any case, no don't take 10 years off of dating.

That is as ridiculous as saying every woman wants a 6'4 meathead.

 

so just keep torturing myself by trying to get a cute girl my age now who wants nothing to do with me??

 

or just ignore dating all together until I'm 37 and find a 35 year old who wants to get married and have kids ASAP and will finally have somewhat sane standards

[olivetree]

so just keep torturing myself by trying to get a cute girl my age now who wants nothing to do with me??

 

or just ignore dating all together until I'm 37 and find a 35 year old who wants to get married and have kids ASAP and will finally have somewhat sane standards

 

Maybe you are at a place where you're so desperate for a gf it is showing and repelling the women you seek.

Older women like you because you are not trying with them.

[Miss Spider]

nvm I forgot you already said that

[Highndry]

here's the weird thing about it - I'm 5'10 195. I'm more muscular than 99.9% of American society (I posted 2 pics also )

 

 

and it still wouldn't be nearly enough for those really attractive women at my gym. They're likely all wanting juicehead gorillas. Not a natural guy like me who still looks healthy and athletic. I've never touched a steroid in my life. I'm as natural and as healthy as it gets. Most of those girls want a guy who sucks down the juice 24-7

 

You make a lot of assumptions about complete strangers, women who you never even asked out. Be 100% honest here: HOW MANY women have you asked out in your life, and how many turned you down?

 

PS- The fact that you're in excellent physical shape means you don't need to flaunt that at all. Some loose clothing, not baggy, which hides your muscles a bit will go much further than accentuating them. Women aren't stupid, they know an attractive shape when they see it.

[FilterCoffee]

and it still wouldn't be nearly enough for those really attractive women at my gym. They're likely all wanting juicehead gorillas. Not a natural guy like me who still looks healthy and athletic. I've never touched a steroid in my life. I'm as natural and as healthy as it gets. Most of those girls want a guy who sucks down the juice 24-7

 

You’re soooo wrong. And how would you know, how many have you spoken to?

[mike3838]

You make a lot of assumptions about complete strangers, women who you never even asked out. Be 100% honest here: HOW MANY women have you asked out in your life, and how many turned you down?

 

I don't allow it to get to that

 

when they show that my presence is extremely irritating to them, I walk away ASAP

 

I'm not trying to make anyone feel awkward or uncomfortable

 

PS- The fact that you're in excellent physical shape means you don't need to flaunt that at all. Some loose clothing, not baggy, which hides your muscles a bit will go much further than accentuating them. Women aren't stupid, they know an attractive shape when they see it.

 

loose clothing doesn't look good though

 

fitted button down shirts and jeans are what's trendy and fashionable nowadays. I have some XL shirts and when I wear it, looks so sloppy and unappealing

 

slightly too tight >>>>> sloppy and baggy