alphamale Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Outcast In some countries, big women with lots of room (and spare fat) to nourish babies is attractive. Where the f*** is that? In the arctic circle? Youre talking about 100s of years ago when being chubby mean you had a lot of food and were therefore upper-class. The basic aspect of beauty for both men and women in genetically ingrained in everyone and pretty much the same the world over.
Jolene Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I'll keep your seat warm here in the animal kingdom That's the spirit!!! Now we're cookin with fire!!!!
A Fly onThe Wall Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Outcast It would be nice to think that times have changed but you're deluding yourself. Things have moved - a tiny bit - towards progressive but they're still far from being there. Open your eyes.. Take off the blinders.. this is how you see things.. Not the vast majority
westernxer Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Jolene It's just a bit creepy to think that a sleazy fifteen year old is a turn on. A sleazy 19-year-old is much more appealing, not to mention legal (at least in this country). Originally posted by alphamale Where the f*** is that? In the arctic circle? Among the seal population. Being a carnivore, I do prefer a woman with meat on her bones, as long as it isn't too much meat. Originally posted by Jolene That's the spirit!!! Now we're cookin with fire!!!! Hee-hee.
nicki Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Wow, I'm enjoying this discussion. As an intelligent woman, I find it an uphill battle to deal with this kind of insecurity. Yes, it's the media. Yes, it's society. Yes, it's our own personal fear. Yes, it's biology to point. BUT, it still makes it hard when your boyfriend stares at other women. (By the way, I LOVE the advice of walking away and looking busy when a guy does this. It's true, he will come to you wondering why you aren't paying attention to him.) It's funny that I'm worried about this. My boyfriend likes the way I look. He comments on it quite often. He always wants me to show off my figure with clothing I think is too slutty. He even LIKES it when guys look at me, or when they ask me out. He doesn't get jealous. WTF? I think this is why I get insecure. I want him to think I'm beautiful, sexy, etc...but, hey about a comment on how great I handled a situation, or how smart I am? Or kind, funny, etc....Sometimes I think he only cares about appearances. Of course, he is worried sick himself about having perfect abs. I could care less. Looks do matter, don't get me wrong. We all have a different idea of what is attractive. And to me, it doesn't mean perfect. After listening to all your great advice, I think I will stop focussing on my own looks. I'll continue to take great care of myself, but enjoy life and my many passions. I may not be able to control everyone else, but I can control myself. Thanks. You people always amaze me with your insights...
Outcast Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Where the f*** is that? In the arctic circle? Youre talking about 100s of years ago when being chubby mean you had a lot of food and were therefore upper-class. No I'm not. This may come as a shock to someone in the USA, but there are other countries in the world; other societies, and other traditions and tastes. Open your eyes.. Take off the blinders.. this is how you see things.. Not the vast majority Sorry, Charlie. I would like to believe what you say is true but I've seen plenty; plenty more than you, I'll warrant, and the glass ceiling still exists and generals are still getting fired for sexual harrassment.
A Fly onThe Wall Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Outcast Sorry, Charlie. I would like to believe what you say is true but I've seen plenty; plenty more than you, I'll warrant, and the glass ceiling still exists and generals are still getting fired for sexual harrassment. First of all.. I think that women should stand up and thank you for speaking for all of woman kind instead of just stating your opinion. How do you know what I have or have not seen in my lifetime ? that statement is just plain nuts. Are you trying to speak for me now ? And how about not changing the subject !! This wasn't about the glass ceiling or sexual harrasment.. But I now see how your mind works.. You have very narrow vision.. almost pinpoint It seems to me that you don't think very much of men and you believe men keep the woman down. How dark ages..
westernxer Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Outcast No I'm not. This may come as a shock to someone in the USA, but there are other countries in the world; other societies, and other traditions and tastes. What's your beef with the USA? (and don't blame it on our president...) Were you a draft dodger?
Neptune Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Hey, there is a lot of variety in this country. The guy I work with likes a big bootie and he cannot lie. Me on the other hand tend to like the runway model look. Of course, you can imagine who spends more time with their woman of choice
freebird Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I think even if you're not interested in those girls you just have to look automatically, your eyes get drawn to it magically because it's unusual, like a car accident. Not that all guys just stare at the girls out of curiosity or puzzled fascination, I'm sure that some do enjoy what they see. I agree Loony!! It's a puzzled fascination! Besides, if everyone dressed like a school marm, we'd have not free entertainment. I don't care who is wearing what or who looks how - as long as they don't get in my face - life is too short - live how you want!
freebird Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Meant to say that if these women didn't wear some of these skeezy, ridiculous or downright nasty ass outfits - what are supposed to look at? It's entertainment ~
Outcast Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 What's your beef with the USA? Woeful (and willful) ignorance about life in the rest of the world.
Toni_no12002 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 why do men have to look at other women for entertainment?i mean why not look at a car instead or something.they dont NEED to look at other women.
A Fly onThe Wall Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Toni_no12002 why do men have to look at other women for entertainment?i mean why not look at a car instead or something.they dont NEED to look at other women. toni, when was the last time that a car rolled by you in ..lets say a restaurant ? And what is the difference if one did and we looked at it ? Let me help you .. There isn't any.. Looking at a women and a car are the same thing ..Doh !
Toni_no12002 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 i dont think it is because you cant exactly look at a car sexually and think i want to shag that do you?so its totally different.
A Fly onThe Wall Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Toni_no12002 i dont think it is because you cant exactly look at a car sexually and think i want to shag that do you?so its totally different. Huh ?? Maybe in your mind .. But in mine it doesn't .. I have the capability to differentiate between the two.. and being able to see the simaliaraties between the two It's called cognitive thought ..
westernxer Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Outcast Woeful (and willful) ignorance about life in the rest of the world. Can't argue with that, but ignorance is a global phenomenon. I think we'd get along much better if you quit chopping at the knees.
Outcast Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 I think we'd get along much better if you quit chopping at the knees. I was responding to : Where the f*** is that? In the arctic circle? Youre talking about 100s of years ago when being chubby mean you had a lot of food and were therefore upper-class. I concede that some of your kin do know some things about the world
westernxer Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Outcast I concede that some of your kin do know some things about the world It's all good. *grinning as I work (sort of)*
Author Amyjk Posted August 11, 2005 Author Posted August 11, 2005 I just wanted to say THANK YOU to all of you that replied to my post!! Most of you I agreed with and you gave me great insight and advice!! I think the best advice I got though, was from my daughter who is only 12 yrs. old, (going on 22) after she read my post and a few of the replies. She told me that I am a great mom having raised 6 children all by myself and that I am a beautiful person, inside and out and that I only look 37, and that my fiance is lucky to have me. She reminded me that life is too short to worry about such trivialities and the next time my fiance looks at a cute girl to just tell myself "Who cares, I don't!!!" And to just shrug it off and put it out of my mind and not let it wreck my time. That this is just the way men are programmed, and it's never going to stop, so to just accept it and try not to let it bother me. She says I should work on myself physically, mentally, and spiritually and that in time, I will develop confidence in myself and I will learn to feel really good about myself and not worry about what my fiance is looking at. I don't know why I didn't just ask my daughter for her advice in the first place!! I don't know where she got her confidence from, it certainly wasn't from me. I'm going to try to follow her advice and I will let you know how it works!! Thanks again and good luck to all of you who suffer from this jealousy fixation!! Maybe my daughters advice could work for you too!!
Outcast Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Your daughter sounds like she has her head on straight. I hope all the garbage that she'll go through in her teen years won't turn her into an insecure, self-loathing woman.
Toni_no12002 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 fly on the wall so your telling me that you look at cars the same way as you look at women?so if your making love to a woman you fanitsize about a car??? i dont think so.when you see a woman you look at her because you think she s really good looking and if you had the chance youd shag her am i right? if you saw a nice car you wouldnt want to shag it would you?so its totally different!i dont want to argue sorry if i sound bitchy just trying to put my point across when your in a relationship other women are always a threat i wouldnt get mad about my bloke looking at a car becaues i am not a car if you get me but another woman its different its like if you find someone attractive its like competition.you always want to be the best.
westernxer Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by Amyjk Maybe my daughters advice could work for you too!! Is her name Ann Landers? Kidding, of course.
freebird Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 Its enevitable - no matter what sex you are, you are GOING to look at something that "catches" your eye. People like to look at pleasant things, its human nature. To force anyone not to look at a hot guy or girl or some great shoes or a beautiful diamond is wrong! People will look at what is attractive to them - that's it. I know I do! This does not subtract from the fact that your fiance or hubby doesnt find you attractive - he married ya - which means he REALLY found you attractive!
Toni_no12002 Posted August 12, 2005 Posted August 12, 2005 the thing is why do people say looking at a woman is like looking at other objects ie shoes.it cant be because you can get turned on by a woman not by shoes etc
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