Outcast Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 I agree WESTERNXR....and in addition how does OUTCAST know everyones sexual and relationship history after only making less than 300 posts in almost 2 years on LS? That averages 13 posts per month. That I wasn't posting doesn't mean I wasn't reading
scratch Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by Star Gazer If you're a nice guy who wants a woman who wants a nice guy, ya ought to bring her flowers. Look at it as your own way of weeding out the emotionally unstable women...because the good girls want flowers. Your point about weeding out makes some sense to me. However, assumng his objective is to make her like him, in what scenario do flowers advance his cause? Does he need something other than his own personality and charm to get her to like him? Moreover, if that isn't enough, will flowers get him over the hump?
loony Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 I think you all are completely missing the point. WhereSpiritisRoam problems will not be that he doesn't appear to be nice enough, his problem will to avoid being too clingy and desperate. Once the girl starts to suspect that he's a clingy guy she'll start going back in her memory and look for evidences that he's needy and desperate and then she will remember the flowers.
alphamale Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by loony Once the girl starts to suspect that he's a clingy guy she'll start going back in her lmemory and look for evidences that he's needy and desperate and then she will remember the flowers. this woman does not suspect that he is clingy and needy, she KNOWS it already. He has spend like 100+ hours talking on the phone with her already and they have not even met. Come on LOONEY.....if you talked with some dude over the phone for this period of time before even meeting what whould you think about him???
scratch Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by Star Gazer Well, true, I don't think flowers should be used to make her like him. At this early stage, shouldn't making her like him be his top priority? Originally posted by Star Gazer That said, in the past I have been lukewarm about certain guys (not sure if he was the gentlemanly, romantic sort), and as soon as I got flowers, my heat for him did increase. Interesting. Every other woman who has addressed this anecdotally has expressed the opposite opinion, but it makes sense that people would feel differently on this matter. Originally posted by Star Gazer The point is it is worth whatever risk it carries. If she's turned off by flowers, she's just weird. A good, stable woman who enjoys receiving and giving the little things in a romantic relationship will look favorably on this gesture. It CAN'T hurt, it can only help (assuming we're talking a small bouquet of daisies or tulips or something, not 2 dozen long stemmed roses). In this case, if she freaks about the flowers, then she wasn't meant for WSR anyway. Why are 2 dozen roses be a turnoff? Is there anything more sweet and romantic?
westernxer Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 If he wants to buy her flowers, fine. Just don't eat them.
Proto Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 Any guy who would not bring a small (4-5) bunch of roses on their first date HAS NO GAME WHATSOEVER Every first date I've been on I have ALWAYS brought flowers....and you wanna know what every single girl has said to me? "Oh my god...I've NEVER gotten flowers before! Thank you so much!" Always....ALWAYS bring a small set of flowers on your first date with a woman...ALWAYS. You will never regret it. It's these losers who say not to bring flowers who women will quickly forget about. They won't forget about the sweet guy who took the time to get her flowers. By the way, red roses almost always work...but if you can try to get her to tell you what her favorite type of flower is without being too obvious about it. Women absolutely love attention to detail.
kanga Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 any word on when this date will happen or if it happened? i dobut WSR will check in and follow up with how it went. everyone has already given an opinion or three. but i'll add mine anyways. 1. girls who like flowers on date one are the exception. i have never had a good turnout with a boy who does flowers on date one. it's happened only twice though. both boys were duds. 2. flowers are cliche and generic. the excuse that "it shows i was thinking of her" is bull. you dressed to look nice and you already planned out a great night. i know you were thinking of me. i know you are just as nervous about this night as i am. 3. they create resentment if the night goes bad. girls who like flowers in general like that they add color and life to a room. but if our date goes bad, i'm in a conflict because while i want to use them to make my room pretty, they are a reminder of you. there's no saving yourself now. 4. if you're the kind of guy who will give flowers on date one, you'll surely try to get a second or more dates even if we reached No. 3. this is why first-date flowers are a warning sign to me and many other girls. 5. it looks extra bad if you buy flowers but have no concept of how to perform during date one. are you complimenting her (not too much), letting her talk and actively listening, avoiding the taboo topics (exes, for example), etc. to me, the confident, mature dating guy has enough just being himself that he doesn't need the flower accessories. and sorry, but talking hours and hours on the phone does not count as the first or two dates. nothing counts until two people physically meet.
Outcast Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 Well you and kanga can go out and the people who think flowers are great could go out and everyone would be happy
alphamale Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 Originally posted by kanga i dobut WSR will check in and follow up with how it went. agreed.
BeachQueen Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 On the other hand, just taking her out to dinner and spending time together should be more than enough to show my interest on the first date. right...just leave the nerd outfit at home Hilarious! Oh yes. Please please do listen to single men about how to treat a woman because they for sure know. See how well it's working for them? Everyone's a comedian in this forum. I second that. When a woman really likes you, she doesn't care if you bring anyting at all, other than yourself (and maybe some latex). I agree with this, but I still don't see how bringing flowers will hurt his "case." Wake up, this is a first time meeting. Personally, I think she's a wacko, but that's just my humble opinion. Haha! Ouch. Wonder what she did to scare them away... Oh fergawdsakes we're talking five bucks' worth of posies, not a new friggin car! Amen. I know so many really nice men who are decent, kind, loyal, etc....but many women won't give them the time of day Because they're broke, have no car or live with mom. I agree WESTERNXR....and in addition how does OUTCAST know everyones sexual and relationship history after only making less than 300 posts in almost 2 years on LS? That averages 13 posts per month. Did you actually take the time to check his/her posts? Overall, I think flowers on a first date is really sweet b/c most women don't receive sweet gestures like this b/c men are programmed not to seem "clingy" or "desperate." I doubt WSR will post about the date, but I wish him luck.
Author WhereSpiritsRoam Posted August 25, 2005 Author Posted August 25, 2005 Thanks for all of your posts. I am happy to report that our first date went remarkably well. She loved the flowers and couldn't stop talking about how sweet the gesture was. She has now been my g/f for 12 days.
loony Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Originally posted by WhereSpiritsRoam Thanks for all of your posts. I am happy to report that our first date went remarkably well. She loved the flowers and couldn't stop talking about how sweet the gesture was. She has now been my g/f for 12 days. Wow.
brewgirl25 Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 If you really like this girl, flowers are not too much. My current boyfriend brought flowers to our first date, and we had only spoken on the phone a few times. It made me feel very special, and it turned out to be the best first date I've ever had, and we're moving in together next month. Good luck!
alphamale Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Originally posted by Star Gazer See!!! I TOLD you so!! Yay!!! come on SG...he probably showed up at the door w/ his flwrs and she took one look at him and slammed it
thegoodhubbie Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Originally posted by Proto Any guy who would not bring a small (4-5) bunch of roses on their first date HAS NO GAME WHATSOEVER Every first date I've been on I have ALWAYS brought flowers....and you wanna know what every single girl has said to me? "Oh my god...I've NEVER gotten flowers before! Thank you so much!" Always....ALWAYS bring a small set of flowers on your first date with a woman...ALWAYS. You will never regret it. It's these losers who say not to bring flowers who women will quickly forget about. They won't forget about the sweet guy who took the time to get her flowers. By the way, red roses almost always work...but if you can try to get her to tell you what her favorite type of flower is without being too obvious about it. Women absolutely love attention to detail. f***ING A BROTHER. I always brought flowers on a first date and got the same response!
Outcast Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 Thanks for all of your posts. I am happy to report that our first date went remarkably well. She loved the flowers and couldn't stop talking about how sweet the gesture was. She has now been my g/f for 12 days. Score: Nice Guys - WINNERS Jerks - LOOOOOOSERRRRRRRSSSSSSSS
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