belle_athletic Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 I'm not saying that looks are the only thing, but I've found that I definitely love muscles a lot, a guy's face can be average but if he's got nice chest and arms.... 1
Michelle ma Belle Posted June 28, 2017 Posted June 28, 2017 I'm actually the opposite. I do prefer a guy who is relatively fit and that includes some muscle but I'm definitely NOT into men who are supersonically chiseled or bulked up muscle heads. I just have found them to be a bit too high maintenance and narcissistic for my liking. That's not say I can't appreciate a muscular man, because I do but if we're talking about being physically attracted, I tend to go for personality and beautiful smile over how big his muscles are.
loverboy69 Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Define muscular. Are you talking lean muscle, naturally wide shouldered or straight out meathead? For the same reasons that women really dress up / buy expensive purses to impress other women I believe most hardcore meatheads are in competition to themselves not the other sex.
preraph Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I hate bulky muscles. Normal looking muscles from being just fit are what I like. 2
todreaminblue Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 have dated a body builder...cant say it was his muscles that made me like him...more when he told me that he volunteered with children at a home for disabled kids..... 6
thefooloftheyear Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I am a large man that's all muscle...I like to strength train, live clean and eat right, and I am a classic Mesomorph, so I build muscle very easily..I have had people say stuff like "you must live at the gym"....Quite the contrary...I do train hard and I am serious about my training, but I only spend 45-60 min a day, 5 days a week,,,I see some people at the gym spending more time than that checking FB and talking, and they look like they never trained in their lives... So... what do I do?? Trade my good genetics for bad, stop doing what makes me happy, and eat pizza and donuts all day, because some women find it unappealing?? Eff that... Ill live by my own choices and let the chips fall where they may...I also find it highly judgemental of people to mis-characterize those of us, because we happen to be muscular/big..Most of it is pure envy(esp from the guys) and some of it is sour grapes...The amount of big guys that are douchey pale in comparison to little one's with attitudes or Napoleon complexes...Most of us are actually quite kind, compassionate and self assured. Additionally, I highly doubt any woman would go out of her way to discount a well built/muscular guy - if all else was good...Doesn't make any sense..That's like saying a guy that doesn't prefer big breasted women or thinks that women with big tits are attention seekers, would toss them out if the rest was good....It's just a body type in the end..people should be judged my more than that... TFY 10
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I am a large man that's all muscle...I like to strength train, live clean and eat right, and I am a classic Mesomorph, so I build muscle very easily..I have had people say stuff like "you must live at the gym"....Quite the contrary...I do train hard and I am serious about my training, but I only spend 45-60 min a day, 5 days a week,,,I see some people at the gym spending more time than that checking FB and talking, and they look like they never trained in their lives... So... what do I do?? Trade my good genetics for bad, stop doing what makes me happy, and eat pizza and donuts all day, because some women find it unappealing?? Eff that... Ill live by my own choices and let the chips fall where they may...I also find it highly judgemental of people to mis-characterize those of us, because we happen to be muscular/big..Most of it is pure envy(esp from the guys) and some of it is sour grapes...The amount of big guys that are douchey pale in comparison to little one's with attitudes or Napoleon complexes...Most of us are actually quite kind, compassionate and self assured. Additionally, I highly doubt any woman would go out of her way to discount a well built/muscular guy - if all else was good...Doesn't make any sense..That's like saying a guy that doesn't prefer big breasted women or thinks that women with big tits are attention seekers, would toss them out if the rest was good....It's just a body type in the end..people should be judged my more than that... TFY My ex was like this. He's just naturally built great. He does work out, especially as he ages, but he's always been cut, even in pics I see of him as a young kid. However, because he has a great body with little effort, he's super judgmental and shaming about people who don't or who struggle to maintain it. THAT is not cool. Because of my experiences with him in that regard, I do have some prejudice in my head about men who are very muscular. It's not fair to transfer "him" on to "them" but I admit that I do make unfair assumptions at times I guess. I'll have to work on that. 2
mercy Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I lay on my h while he does pushups. I like a strong man. Charlie Hunan is pretty close to perfection. 2
Bastile Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 However, because he has a great body with little effort, he's super judgmental and shaming about people who don't or who struggle to maintain it. THAT is not cool. I'm a bit like that too. Way I see it is that there are a good amount of people in the world are starving, and can't be obese even if they wanted to, yet we are supposed to have sympathy for gluttons? My heart bleeds. I dated a girl about 6 months back that I had misjudged as "curvy", but was actually a bit fat. Though she had style, and wit. I thought to give it a go for a bit anyway. I saw her eating habits the more we spent time together, and was honestly a bit shocked by them. Also, I find that they drag you into the same boat. It's the lifestyle that is a turnoff as much as just the look.
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I'm a bit like that too. Way I see it is that there are a good amount of people in the world are starving, and can't be obese even if they wanted to, yet we are supposed to have sympathy for gluttons? My heart bleeds. I dated a girl about 6 months back that I had misjudged as "curvy", but was actually a bit fat. Though she had style, and wit. I thought to give it a go for a bit anyway. I saw her eating habits the more we spent time together, and was honestly a bit shocked by them. Also, I find that they drag you into the same boat. It's the lifestyle that is a turnoff as much as just the look. Yes, I understand that and disapproving of the lifestyle of someone you know is one thing. Being mean-spirited about a stranger is another. I saw a woman on TV the other day who was perfectly normal sized on top but had some kind of medical disorder that made her enormous on the bottom. All of the dieting and exercise in the world would not have changed it, and she ate very healthy. That's of course an extreme example, but I've known super skinny men who've done everything they can to gain muscle and can't, and women with conditions like PCOS that make them gain weight and they can't lose it no matter how perfect their lifestyle is. It's sad. My ex once threw a glass of iced tea across the living room because he was mad that his overweight mother put candy in our children's Easter baskets. Or maybe the fit he threw about it spurred on his mother to throw the tea, I forget. But, it was unnecessary.
Bastile Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Reminds me of the Socrates quote: "No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable" I've done all sorts of different things. Weight training, football, boxing, Judo, Brazillian Jiu Jitsu, etc. Can't understand men in particular with all that testosterone going to waste. And personally, I was getting into a lot of trouble as a boy, until my dad took me to Judo. Men need that sort of outlet, I think. When it comes to the opposite end of the spectrum, I find that it's just excuses. The people with some sort of condition are the extreme minority. Most people just have too many cheeseburgers and no excercise. Or I see people at work talking about weight obsessively whilst hiding doughnuts and crisps in their desk. My experience is that women like muscles. I got a lot more interest online when I put up shirtless pics, but I also got women thinking that I'm a player. Also women respond well when we take our clothes off. I'm not a proper meathead or anything. More the cut type. Some women have told me that it's a surprise afterwards... so maybe I don't wear clothes that accentuate it to the full. 2
Imported Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I think the question is what women do you like and what do they think? Most people have mental defense mechanisms and when they do it, they don't even think that's what they are doing. They just think that's reality. 'That meathead is a narcissist'. You don't know him to be talking that ****, so all you're doing is talking ****. Why? Says more about you than them. A girl that is in shape, takes care of her body, works out, watches what she eats and is tripping over guys trying to date her might just think different than women that have steadily been gaining weight since early teens. I probably spend more time working-out than thefooloftheyear lol, but that's from swimming and running and my refusal to have "rest days". If I did less, no running, no swimming an actual lifting plan, rest days and ate to support it, I will get a lot bigger. But I just like working out, it's like recess in elementary school. I enjoy it. There will be women that like it. Probably the ones you want. Just don't do anabolics and that pretty much makes it almost impossible for you to get too big, although "too big" is open to interpretation based on what you're use to. Especially if you have never seen in person the leviathans. 1
Andy_K Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I spend more or less the same amount of time working out as TFY - 5 days x 45-60 mins per week and eat clean. But I'm more of an ectomorph - small wrists, narrower shoulders, just a naturally lighter skeleton for my height (5'11"). Whilst I'm very lean and much more muscular than most guys with my natural build, the difference between us would be night & day as there is only so much I can achieve without 'assistance'. As things are, I get way more positive feedback from girls who have seen me topless than those who haven't, makes me curious as to how much more positive it might be if I naturally had a bigger frame too. 2
Mumbles Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 As things are, I get way more positive feedback from girls who have seen me topless than those who haven't, makes me curious as to how much more positive it might be if I naturally had a bigger frame too. I'm a bit like you I suspect. 5'10", ecto.. so narrow shoulders, small waist, small wrists. But, the thing is, I think a lot of girls like a guy who has some defined muscle - you don't have to be 'big' in the Ronnie Coleman sense, but have some shape and some muscle definition, and have some strength. So, in answer to your wondering if you'd get more attention if you were more of a meso ... I don't necessarily think so.... though we do best in situations where less clothes suits the situation ... suits and jackets can hide a lot of our 'good stuff' :) I seem to get a fair bit of positive feedback from my lady friends when they first get to see me strip off
tetrahedral Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I spend more or less the same amount of time working out as TFY - 5 days x 45-60 mins per week and eat clean. But I'm more of an ectomorph - small wrists, narrower shoulders, just a naturally lighter skeleton for my height (5'11"). Whilst I'm very lean and much more muscular than most guys with my natural build, the difference between us would be night & day as there is only so much I can achieve without 'assistance'. As things are, I get way more positive feedback from girls who have seen me topless than those who haven't, makes me curious as to how much more positive it might be if I naturally had a bigger frame too. I feel you. I'm a lean type too, 5'10" and only 160#. It feels like no matter how strong I actually am, I don't get the look. Someone else mentioned that meatheads are really working out for each other. I'm not a "meathead", but that's how I feel about my fitness hobbies. Other people who are into it, want to talk about it. I'm getting close to the 2x bodyweight back squat recently, which has been a long term goal for me, and I think other guys into lifting think it's cool. But it's not something normal people care about. I don't do bodybuilding-type training at all though. No arm curls, no bench press, just overhead lifts like the clean & jerk. Basically olympic lifts in low-rep ranges, then long high-intensity workouts that aren't really strength training. Sometimes I wonder if I should sell out and start doing arm curls. It just doesn't look as appealing to stand there and do "sets". I don't get the high from that.
Author belle_athletic Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 I spend more or less the same amount of time working out as TFY - 5 days x 45-60 mins per week and eat clean. But I'm more of an ectomorph - small wrists, narrower shoulders, just a naturally lighter skeleton for my height (5'11"). Whilst I'm very lean and much more muscular than most guys with my natural build, the difference between us would be night & day as there is only so much I can achieve without 'assistance'. As things are, I get way more positive feedback from girls who have seen me topless than those who haven't, makes me curious as to how much more positive it might be if I naturally had a bigger frame too. I actually prefer this type, some girls might like large meatheads but when I say muscle I'm referring to slimmer but more defined guys 3
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I actually prefer this type, some girls might like large meatheads but when I say muscle I'm referring to slimmer but more defined guys I'd prefer a larger muscular "bear" type man who could envelop me in a huge hug and make me feel safe. The thin/cut man....I've had it. Not that he didn't make me feel safe, but he was just too much about showing all that off. Shaving his arms to make the muscles defined and all that. Yuck. 2
Blanco Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 It seems like the average woman will gawk at the guy with lean muscle and great vascularity, but when it comes to partnering up, they prefer a guy who's got a good build but maybe a bit more heft to them (in a good way); a "bear" type as the poster above me described. I remember I dated a girl who loved to feel my arms before we were actually dating. I was carrying a little extra weight, but still had decent muscle mass. After we started dating, I dropped about 20 pounds over a few months. I had a bit more definition, but all I remember about her reaction was semi-jokingly asking where my arms went. 1
dichotomy Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) I am a bear - or been described as a hug-able ex linebacker Definitely not cut but I lift and I have some trouble finding shirts that fit me in shoulders/chest/arms. When I have been at my thinnest (not as strong/bulky) there was a noticeable increase in attention from women. Edited July 1, 2017 by dichotomy 3
amaysngrace Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I like them lean with muscles best. A male surfer's body is my ideal. 3
Popsicle Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I like them lean with muscles best. A male surfer's body is my ideal. Me too, or swimmers body type. So sessy. 4
thefooloftheyear Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 When I have been at my thinnest (not as strong/bulky) there was a noticeable increase in attention from women. Two reason's IMO...At least from my personal experience... -I cut down a few years ago, and at that time, was probably under 10% BF..I was pretty shredded..I experienced the same thing you did..When I look at photos from then, it wasn't the body type, though...,My face became really chiseled...More than the physique, it was the facial appearance..at least that's what I think... - I added some size over the last few years where now, according to my mom and a few others, I am starting to look too intimidating...I guess that's possible, between the tats and everything else...Id think some women might feel it's just a bit too much...Heck, I remember back in HS when competitive wrestling and cutting down to stupid unhealthy bf levels(to a point where I looked sickly), I was the hit of the school with the girlies...Go figure... Either way, as I said, it doesn't matter...I'll do whatever suits me at the time..Trying to chase what some women like or don't like is just a road to nowhere...forget it.. TFY 3
SammySammy Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 When I have been at my thinnest (not as strong/bulky) there was a noticeable increase in attention from women. It's true. When you're ripped, heads turn. I've seen women say they "don't like" muscular men, but I see you looking .... I work out for myself though. Do yoga for myself. Because it makes me feel good. Only a select few will ever really see me, so what others think doesn't matter. As long as I'm happy and my SO is happy, I'm good. 2
dichotomy Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) - I added some size over the last few years where now, according to my mom and a few others, I am starting to look too intimidating... TFY I get that at times, from both men and women. Not as extreme as you, and I am also older now, but its mentioned to me a times a year from various people from doctors, people at a bar, co workers/managers, to women. I have refrained from mentioning to most people I also dabble in MMA training a few times a week, because it adds to the comments/concerns in their faces. But I do need to trim up.... for health reasons, but that wont change the finding shirts much easier Edited July 1, 2017 by dichotomy 2
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I've seen women say they "don't like" muscular men, but I see you looking .... 2
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