palmsand Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 On my trip to Taiwan, went to the Palace Museum on the first meetup with a local girl yesterday. We walked into the museum holding hands but soon enough we were basically making out and groping each other when we thought nobody was looking. Keep in mind, this is THE premiere museum for ancient Chinese culture and history, showing artifacts dating back to 6,000 BC. And I was worried we were going to get kicked out for lewd behavior. I saw it as disrespectful to Chinese culture and the country, as treasured and highly coveted as this place is. But the local girl was instigating it, I just reluctantly went along. What do you think? Totally not ok?
d0nnivain Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 You did it too so you can't really complain. If you thought it was disrespectful, you had the option to leave. You didn't. You stayed & made out with her too. For you to now call her somehow shameful & disrespectful is a total double standard. FWIW the behavior was not appropriate to the location but since you did it too, own it. 13
basil67 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Yes, you should be mortified by this behaviour. But probably most of us have some behaviour we have been mortified over. So get over it and move on. 3
Author palmsand Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 Good to know. My feeling as well. I kind of deferred to her since it is her country and history but still... It felt disrespectful. On the other hand, telling her off and walking out seemed extreme. Also I kind of needed her to find my way back to my part of town, as I didn't know the bus route we took after getting off the metro. My first time traveling abroad by myself(mostly). I know I won't do anything like that again. 1
PegNosePete Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) I saw it as disrespectful to Chinese culture and the country, as treasured and highly coveted as this place is. Being kicked out is probably the least of your worries. Arrested and possibly quite imprisoned should be higher up your list of worries. Especially since Thailand is still in its year of mourning for its former king. You must be crazy to even think about doing this kind of stuff in such a prominent public location. Who cares if she did it? She probably knows the back way out if the police come along, and as the tourist you'll be the one caught and charged. EDIT apologies Taiwan not Thailand But still. People have been arrested and imprisoned for much less. Edited June 13, 2017 by PegNosePete 1
Author palmsand Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 I'm in Taiwan, as in the Republic of China, not Thailand. Laws and society here are very liberal for asia. Even more so than in the US it seems. 1
Whodatdog Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Its possible theres cameras everywhere in a place like that, to keep people from stealing. So your lovely actions are probably being enjoyed by security. 4
doyathinkso Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 You were making out during Schindler's List??!!!!! 4
mikeylo Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Would warn you about falling into trouble with law enforcement.
Redhead14 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 On my trip to Taiwan, went to the Palace Museum on the first meetup with a local girl yesterday. We walked into the museum holding hands but soon enough we were basically making out and groping each other when we thought nobody was looking. Keep in mind, this is THE premiere museum for ancient Chinese culture and history, showing artifacts dating back to 6,000 BC. And I was worried we were going to get kicked out for lewd behavior. I saw it as disrespectful to Chinese culture and the country, as treasured and highly coveted as this place is. But the local girl was instigating it, I just reluctantly went along. What do you think? Totally not ok? The TWO of you were 'tangoing', yes? You need to own your role in the situation. You are responsible for your actions and only you. If you do not have the intestinal fortitude to enforce your boundaries, you are giving other people too much power over you. It was what it was, you both did it. If her behavior doesn't measure up to your code of conduct and values, don't see her again PERIOD. And, if your behavior doesn't measure up to your code of conduct and values, you need to reflect on why you have an inability to hold yourself to higher standards of conduct and a lack impulse control. 2
CptInsano Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Museum makeouts are a staple of dating. I'm only surprised she went that far on a first date. Looks like things are going well for you. 3
GunslingerRoland Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 You were making out during Schindler's List??!!!!! I was about to make that same joke... But yeah, it's not appropriate, but sometimes that is the fun. There are much more inappropriate places where people get even more naughty. (cemeteries, etc.) 1
Author palmsand Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 I haven't seen that movie but read a summary and don't see the connection? True, could be worse.
GunslingerRoland Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I haven't seen that movie but read a summary and don't see the connection? True, could be worse. It was an old Seinfeld episode... 2
thefooloftheyear Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I wouldn't worry about it...If they question you, just tell them you wanted to show her the petrified wood... TFY
GorillaTheater Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I saw it as disrespectful to Chinese culture and the country, as treasured and highly coveted as this place is. But the local girl was instigating it, I just reluctantly went along. Museum shmuseum, it's not a big deal. I've made out in a church. It happens. The only thing bothering me about this scenario is you painting yourself as some kind of victim. 8
Els Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 It's unlikely you would be arrested for this in Taiwan. I agree with the others though - if you REALLY thought it was that disrespectful you would have left. You needed her to show you the way back??? What kind of excuse is that? Come on, you've been there for 2 weeks (?) now, there's Google Maps, you have a roommate you can call if you really need to, you're a big boy... you'd be fine going back on your own. If you genuinely couldn't get back to your apartment that you've been living in for over a week from a MUSEUM (ergo, not anywhere out in the sticks without reception), you really shouldn't be travelling anywhere until you get a bit more independent. As for the why, she was probably a hooker. 4
spiderowl Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 It is not appropriate behaviour but you went along with it so were complicit. Are you now saying you don't like her behaviour? I guess it must have been difficult to refuse her. If you were enjoying it as much as her, I don't see how you can judge her. I expect this was entertaining for the security guards who were undoubtedly watching on CCTV. Those places uses have cameras everywhere. 1
Maggie4 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Whose idea was it to meet at that museum?! The girl does not sound like a history buff.
teak Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 The only thing bothering me about this scenario is you painting yourself as some kind of victim. This. Own responsibility for your actions. 1
CautiouslyOptimistic Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Museum shmuseum, it's not a big deal. I've made out in a church. It happens. The only thing bothering me about this scenario is you painting yourself as some kind of victim. I don't think that's the picture of him he's hoping we get.....
Author palmsand Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) It's not out in the sticks but nonetheless I have no cell service and can't access the public wifi network. I have the metro system down but had never taken a bus. So I greatly preferred to at least get back to the station with her. My roommate also has no cell service. Sometimes fun things are bad, and that's what makes them fun. It just surprised me that she would be so apt to do that. I would never have started it though. My idea for the museum, thought it would be mostly a sight-seeing trip. She's definitely not a hooker, in school and teaches a swim class. She seems desperate and I can see why. She's rather large(curvy) for this population although I have no problem with her looks. But I bet she doesn't get much from the local guys. Edited June 14, 2017 by palmsand
teak Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 It's not out in the sticks but nonetheless I have no cell service and can't access the public wifi network. I have the metro system down but had never taken a bus. So I greatly preferred to at least get back to the station with her. My roommate also has no cell service. Sometimes fun things are bad, and that's what makes them fun. It just surprised me that she would be so apt to do that. I would never have started it though. My idea for the museum, thought it would be mostly a sight-seeing trip. She's definitely not a hooker, in school and teaches a swim class. She seems desperate and I can see why. She's rather large(curvy) for this population although I have no problem with her looks. But I bet she doesn't get much from the local guys. You need to read through all of the responses you've received because you have missed the point entirely - repeatedly. You are so far out of touch with reality. And this comment is so incredibly unnecessary here. 5
Springsummer Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 I feel like smash you too in the faces! How can anyone with the sightless appreciation of history, civilization and human ingenuity are completely blown away and awestruck by those ancient relics, but instead engaging in animal behaviors? you two are brainless and pathetic... I visited it last year and was completely blown away. People rank the Louvre as the number 1 museum in the world while the Taipei Palace museum as number 2, but personally I am more impressed by the Palace museum. Granted the paints and arts in the Louvres are very beautiful and artistic, but most of them are only hundreds years old, while the artifacts in the Palace museum are thousands years old, any they were made of bronze, jade and porcelain etc with very sophisticated workmanship and artistic expressions. Personally, I think it's the #1 museum in the world. I have visited some in the UK, France and Italy. omg, you have no ideas! everyone must visit it, especially the Chinese. so, only 1% of the collection is exhibited at any given time? If I want to see them all, how long will I have to live?
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