giventheflick Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Narcissism and co-dependency both occur as a result of poor childhood parenting or abuse but both seem to have the same causes....so does anyone know what specifically causes someone to become a narcissist and why don't they become a co-dependent instead (and vice versa)?
onehalfmunky Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Different strokes for different folks. We all internalize things differently given our inherent traits/personalities. Are you doing a psychology research study? I'm codependent, coming from parents who are still married. They had struggles but have always made it through together. If you read my parents, I'm feeling with struggles in my own marriage. I know I always need to look out for myself, but I am devoted and caring to my children and their father. Hope my input helps you sort your question out. 1
OatsAndHall Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 There are a multitude of factors that result in a personality disorder diagnosis and childhood drama is tends to be a commonality between them. A true narcissist diagnosis is actually pretty rare because there are extremely specific behaviors that have to come out. More than someone just being an arrogant, self-centered a--. A narcissism or sociopath tag are hard to truly come by. Narcissism especially because they're basically a sociopath without a clear history of self-destructive behavior. But, with that being said, narcissists don't tend to be co-dependent because they are enthralled with themselves and live in their own little box where nothing matters outside of their own self-interests. They'll use and manipulate people for their own devices but they aren't usually co-dependent because they only keep people in their lives long enough for them to serve a purpose. 1
Frostedflake Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Probably because you don't get to pick your personality disorder. But I would think theres a silverlining between the two. It's called "narc-supply". Narcissistic people DO depend on others, but disposably. 1
Redhead14 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 Narcissism and co-dependency both occur as a result of poor childhood parenting or abuse but both seem to have the same causes....so does anyone know what specifically causes someone to become a narcissist and why don't they become a co-dependent instead (and vice versa)? In the end, a narcissist is co-dependent as well . . . they often seek out partners who are "disordered" as well. People with low esteem and lacking boundaries and/or poor boundary enforcement are easy targets. Because, well, an emotionally healthy person wouldn't stick with them. Two "disordered" people matching up = co-dependent. Nevertheless, true narcissism is rare as a diagnosis. The reason for that is that it is extremely difficult to diagnose because they rarely seek help for it and are extremely intelligent, evasive and manipulative. It takes a long time to make that diagnosis sometimes. As a rule, they have co-morbid diagnoses usually. As for the causes of narcissism, sometimes it's the result of overindulging, pampering parents who push them to very high standards. It is sometimes the result of the complete opposite which is having parents who are not involved in the child life at all causing them to grow up in a vacuum and focused on only themselves as a matter of survival and not having proper attachment affect. Whether a person is truly narcissistic or not, the bottom line is that they are selfish and manipulative. People can be that way regardless and sometimes it's just situational. It doesn't really matter. What matters is that you recognize behaviors/attitudes that are not good for YOU and that you aren't being treated well. 3
mortensorchid Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 I don't think there is ONE reason or factor you can put on either of those things. It's a combination of experiences and genetics and other. I'm a teacher now, I am SHOCKED at the behavioral problems I encounter all the way down to the little children. And I mean PROBLEMS in all caps. Once I was in a 2nd grade class with a kid who was outrageously bad - shimeying up a door frame, screaming, knocking things over on purpose, etc. They told me she is much better now, she actually stays in the classroom now. Last year she would run around the building and be blocks away before someone caught her. No really. As to how / why? I don't know except it's a combination of things, people being allowed to do/say anything they want and get away with it, and this thinking of "It's all about me" and never letting go of that. 1
smackie9 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 Behavior problems can also stem from a type of food allergy. Improvement/changes in diet can make a huge difference. Another reason these things get out of hand is the lack of diagnosis. Some issues can come from a form of Autism. 1
mortensorchid Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Behavior problems can also stem from a type of food allergy. Improvement/changes in diet can make a huge difference. Another reason these things get out of hand is the lack of diagnosis. Some issues can come from a form of Autism. I can now spot the behavior problem from a distance. Know how I (or others) can? They're all fat. Truth.
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