KrimzonWolf Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I'm a guy...just so you know. I'm also a troll at heart, so I decided to create a fake female dating profile on POF using some pictures of a friend. I've heard that there are always twice to three times more men on dating websites than women, but the startling reality of that statistic goes way beyond two to three times. It's more like 100,000 thirsty water buffaloes scrambling to lick one very small pristine puddle. Here is what I discovered after 3 days of this experiment... My fake female profile is visited by about 90 men A DAY. Whereas the total views I received from my actual male profile on POF totaled at 5, and that's after being on POF for about A MONTH. About 70 men PER DAY ask to meet my fake female dating profile. Only 8 people wanted to meet my actual male profile, and of course this has been over the course of A MONTH. To top it all off, my fake female dating profile receives about 60 MESSAGES PER DAY!!!! I have received three messages to my actual male dating profile, but this is only after I initiated the conversation first. I get the most laughs at the downright corny ass **** that men "THINK" will impress or woo women. One guy's message was this "I've already married you, and divorced you in my mind. So have fun with the virtual kids and house you get. Hope you succeed in life...BTW you are incredibly beautiful". I don't have any solid numbers for this yet, but it seems that approximately 95% of all the messages I get on my fake female dating profile are "hey" or "hi" or "hey beautiful how are you doing?". The other 5% actually read all the fake info on my female profile and ask intelligent questions like "Hey, I'm into the Beatles as well, what's your favorite song" or "That's great you want to become a music teacher, how did you decide to pursue that career path?". I'm glad to admit that I have never just said "hey" or "hi" to a woman I was interested in. But if what I am experiencing with this fake female profile is anything like what women put up with when they use POF or other dating websites, then there is NO WAY any dude can expect ANY kind of reply. Who is going to read 60 MESSAGES A DAY!?!?! I can't do it, even if it makes me laugh. The part that does make me feel good about all this, is that there are genuinely nice, beautiful, and sweet women who read all their messages and take time to reply to guys like me. I've only gotten three separate replies, but based on the sheer volume of messages from dudes that women get on POF, it's a miracle that I've gotten any replies at all. Please feel free to create discussion.
selinaluv Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 This is all extremely accurate and I have actually received that married and divorced line before. For me it is weeding through all this and finding someone sincere to go out on a date. And even when I think I have, I can be very mistaken. It makes me wonder if I am missing someone because of all the noise.
palmsand Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I did the same thing. Made two profiles - one with smoking hot images and suggestive bio that screamed FAKE PROFILE, and one with an average looking girl who was in school and working. Both got a huge amount of attention. Looking though countless messages from strange dudes it struck me. How is it possible that any girl ever responds to ME? I'm just another thumbnail in a long line of sketchiness. It actually IMPROVED my faith in humanity. Realizing how much competition there is out there and how much bs women have to deal with online, it really makes me feel good, even proud, that I stood out enough to any of them to be worth responding to.
lolablue17 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I have a different and much more useful experiment for you. A friend of mine, who had no success on OLD, created a fake account of himself. He uses photos of a friend of him (lived in another country), who looks very much like him, the same level. Knowing that as a fake person, he will never have the chance to actually meet anyone, he start communicating with girls, as a fake person. He felt no fear to fail (because he can't meet anyone anyway), and he didn't try to be accurate and responsible for every word he said... You wouldn't believe the results... He had 10 times success that before. So many girls just loved him. He didn't lie about solid facts. I mean, he didn't say he is rich, or things like that. But he didn't limit himself to present only flattering side of him. He took the liberty to try to be a bad boy... a dreamer... not serious, whatever was in his current mood. He also kept changing himself as much as he wanted. My view is that he didn't really fake any of his character, he just let a wider range of himself to pop out, thing he never had the guts to do before. This and without the fear to fail, made a great job on his confident. This is a lesson for us all!!
Gr8fuln2020 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I have been in communication with ladies who tell the same story...hundreds of emails and little to no time to weed them out. So overwhelming that some simply take a break, quit or start a new one. This is also the reason why I message multiple times UNTIL I get some indication that they have visited my profile. It's only then I stop b/c it's only then I get some indication that they have seen my email among the sea of others. I have had some luck in this practice as a few have returned emails. One lady I am in communication with and with whom I am very interested, was a result of my 'persistence.' She complimented on my persistence. 1
Popsicle Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I don't think this is a good experiment. Over the years I've seen MANY men conduct the same experiment. All it does is give them a reason to bail out of the dating game (which is probably what they are looking for and why they did it in the first place).
VeveCakes Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I really hope you had permission to use your friends photos. 6
PegNosePete Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Over the years I've seen MANY men conduct the same experiment. All it does is give them a reason to bail out of the dating game (which is probably what they are looking for and why they did it in the first place). Ditto. It also causes many men to say "half the women on here are fake". Because there are so many female profiles that men make up "as an experiment" using their friend's photos. You are causing exactly the situation you're looking to solve... 6
CptInsano Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I really hope you had permission to use your friends photos. Or based on Google's reverse image search she is wondering about her newfound popularity. 1
Miss Spider Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I wonder why men send out more messages than women? I don't think it soley has to do with numbers. There's the typical "men, in general, are looking for casual encounters, therefore are out to get as many women as possible", which probably holds truth to it. But I have my own guess. Men on dating sites for any length of time other than to douse their curiosity are, frankly, not that successful with women. This is what brought them to online dating in the first place(and before you ask why it applies only to men, I'm not saying it does, just that men are generally the gatekeepers to the first interaction). It doesn't mean they are bad guys. But even the "good looking" ones, are not the most successful, even the 'players'. Typically, a good looking 'player' who is social can go out on town with his buddies and get enough numbers for his black book for next two weeks. Going on a pretty much blind date with risk a date with a woman he might not even be attracted to doesn't appeal much to him. So what you get is a lot of these sorts who get shot down by women irl a lot or just fear it to extremes. OLD creates a shield of sorts from the anxiety and humiliation of rejection. You're not actually getting rejected, your pic is, and you don't have to directly deal with the aftermath of the rejection. With that gone, you can employ a numbers game with next to no effort. Some of them go in much more calculatedly(a thoughtful message), but many of them don't figure if you throw blindly at a target enough times, chances are something is going to stick. Take homeboy who has "divorced and married 'you' in his mind". Even if he could find 100 women a day and muster the courage to say that to them, he probably wouldn't have the time. But he can copy and paste it to 100 women. If he gets 1 response back, it's a successful day online.
PegNosePete Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 (and before you ask why it applies only to men, I'm not saying it does, just that men are generally the gatekeepers to the first interaction) I think you've over-complicated it a little. This quoted part really explains it all Men send messages because they are expected to. Women don't send messages because they don't have to; they receive enough from men. And it's a positive-feedback situation. The more men send messages, the more women receive, the less they need to send them out themselves, and so it reinforces the need for men to send them. 1
newheart Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 About 70 men PER DAY ask to meet my fake female dating profile. Only 8 people wanted to meet my actual male profile, and of course this has been over the course of A MONTH. To top it all off, my fake female dating profile receives about 60 MESSAGES PER DAY!!!! I have received three messages to my actual male dating profile, but this is only after I initiated the conversation first. How do you get 70 men requesting to meet you every day, but only 60 messages? 1
Gaeta Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 There was no need to conduct an experiment. Those of us that have been online long term could have told you this. This is not news. Online dating and its games has been existing for 10-15 years now. 3
CptInsano Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I[...] Over the years I've seen MANY men conduct the same experiment. All it does is give them a reason to bail out of the dating game (which is probably what they are looking for and why they did it in the first place). The experiment is also superficial without trying to actually date these men. During my very short period of online dating I had a brief discussion with a woman whose online profile I had complimented. We most likely weren't a match, but the profile was just so well-written. She told me what types of responses she received. She grouped it into categories such as "married", "begging for sex", "unwanted photos", and such. The number of quality communications wasn't that high, once she actually asked to meet in person. Let's think about it for a second. There are actually less men in the US than women, with variances among certain demographics. It's virtually impossible that all women receive focused, quality communications in large numbers. No, they will have to filter out a whole lot of noise.
Miss Spider Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) I think you've over-complicated it a little. This quoted part really explains it all Men send messages because they are expected to. Women don't send messages because they don't have to; they receive enough from men. And it's a positive-feedback situation. The more men send messages, the more women receive, the less they need to send them out themselves, and so it reinforces the need for men to send them. You are right. I did go a little far from my initial question. Most women can attest to the disparity of attention they get online vs. IRL. Quality/quantity. I suppose because it is a singles environment and they are advertising themselves as single. If you are a woman and you stick around most sites long enoug, you will eventually be messaged by an overwhelming majority of the men there. The feedback loop already established and leads to a really competitive environment for anyone who participates. Thanks. Edited May 12, 2017 by Cookiesandough 1
Author KrimzonWolf Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 FYI I did get permission to use the photos, and I'm going to take down the fake account soon. I simply wanted to get a different side to the story. Thank you for all your replies.
smackie9 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I did a similar one but 2 guys with different incomes....so you know the results of that one. lol I made sure the income was close by 20 grand. Money wins. 2
CptInsano Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I did a similar one but 2 guys with different incomes....so you know the results of that one. lol I made sure the income was close by 20 grand. Money wins. Feels like the Klondike, doesn't it?
Michelle ma Belle Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 **smh** Wow. The number of threads on here talking about people creating fake profiles all in the name of 'research' is disturbing. OLD is a game! It doesn't take a genius to understand this or how the game is played for heaven's sake. You either accept it as such and learn to play as best as you can with what God gave you or you don't bother doing it at all. Simple. The time and energy spent on these ridiculous projects is in and of itself a game and only perpetuates the already frustrating aspects of OLD. How exactly does this help you in terms of actually matching up and meeting someone offline for a real live date? I'll tell you...it doesn't. I think there are better ways to use your time. 4
JuneL Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I never understand this assumption that women have a much easier time than men in terms of looking for a relationship. Statistically, isn't one woman paired up with exactly one man in any straight monogamous relationship? Even though I had only a few weeks of experience with OLD, trust me on this: it's extremely easy to screen those OLD messages. For many women, the hard part is not just getting messages, but getting quality ones. 3
olivetree Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Sorry, but I have to point out that the numbers don't add up. You said Actual male profile Total views I received from my actual male profile on POF totaled at 5 MONTH. Only 8 people wanted to meet my actual male profile, and of course this has been over the course of A MONTH. I have received three messages to my actual male dating profile, but this is only after I initiated the conversation first. So you got 3 replies, 5 views, and yet somehow 8 people wanted to meet you in a month? Fake female profile About 70 men PER DAY ask to meet my fake female dating profile. my fake female dating profile receives about 60 MESSAGES PER DAY!!!! So you had more men asking to meet your fake profile in a day than messaging in day. Interesting. 4
Miss Spider Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Sorry, but I have to point out that the numbers don't add up. You said Actual male profile So you got 3 replies, 5 views, and yet somehow 8 people wanted to meet you in a month? Fake female profile So you had more men asking to meet your fake profile in a day than messaging in day. Interesting. I think op means the "meet me" swipe feature. Just where you right swipe to "like" someone without messaging or even visiting the profile.
johngalt1149 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Ok, so you proved women get more messages than guys. I use OLD all the time to meet people. In 2 years I have easily dated in excess of 100 women. Had real relationships with 3 or 4 who are all still friendly and text me frequently. Had a lot of FWBs but unfortunately not met the one yet, though because of a failed 30 yr marriage that is probably my fault. I've received a lot of messages from women who liked my profile and it's honesty. I've sent hundreds and hundreds of emails and about 15% of the time with replies. The one consistent thing I see is lies about age or blurred photos which usually mean they don't look anything like the photos and a lot of make up hiding their true looks. Women are used to being passive and men being the aggressors and get entitled by it. Older women (I am 59) are more aggressive usually. Unfortunately you have a lot of swinging dicks out there who ruin it for some of us or maybe women like the bad boy attitudes. Send the same email to 100's of women and get a bite. At least OLD is a beginning to an end sometimes.
VeveCakes Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 But the OP also chose to use a profile of a very attractive woman. Put a woman about 20lbs over weight, with two kids and a meh job and see what you get. Baiting with honey is not comparable to baiting with vinegar. 1
Miss Spider Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I never understand this assumption that women have a much easier time than men in terms of looking for a relationship. Statistically, isn't one woman paired up with exactly one man in any straight monogamous relationship? Even though I had only a few weeks of experience with OLD, trust me on this: it's extremely easy to screen those OLD messages. For many women, the hard part is not just getting messages, but getting quality ones. Exactly. They talk about the quantity but not the quality. At least OP sees that. Most of it is of no value at all. Just a bunch of guys using the spray and pray method 1
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