LB2016 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 What's your opinion: Does the truth come out when someone is drunk OR is what is said when someone is drunk not anything to put stock in? I tend to think it's when your hear the TRUTH. Just curious of everyone else's take...
Zaman29 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Personally I think you get a whole lot of both. If it's deeper conversations I think it leans toward being the truth. Anything in particular that was said you are wondering about? 3
CptInsano Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 In vinum veritas may not necessarily apply. Granted, alhohol makes us less inhibited, but unfortunately less coherent and more melodramatic. It may the truth the person spoke at that moment, but he/she may feel about it very different when sober. 9
Popsicle Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Yes, I think so too. In vino veritas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vino_veritas That's why when my Ex-bf's mom used to blame his bad behavior on "the alcohol", I called BS. That was him and alcohol made him unable to hold back on doing what he really wanted to do. When he's sober he has more restraint but the unsavory desires and thoughts are still there under the surface. 2
Popsicle Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 I would not recommend having first-time sex with a woman who is drunk though! Even if she says yes while she's drunk. And I wouldn't believe someone who is drunk who says they can still drive or take care of kids. They're physical abilities are impaired. 1
Redhead14 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 What's your opinion: Does the truth come out when someone is drunk OR is what is said when someone is drunk not anything to put stock in? I tend to think it's when your hear the TRUTH. Just curious of everyone else's take... If someone tells you something when they are drunk, you bring it up again when they are sober and see whether they will acknowledge and confirm that this is how they feel when they are sober. "You know, Xname, last night you were very intoxicated and said XYZ to me. Is this how you truly feel about that?"
GunslingerRoland Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 In vinum veritas may not necessarily apply. Granted, alhohol makes us less inhibited, but unfortunately less coherent and more melodramatic. It may the truth the person spoke at that moment, but he/she may feel about it very different when sober. I have to agree that it's a mix. I think it can bring out uninhibited truth, but I've also had a lot of really stupid thoughts when I was drunk, that I didn't agree with the next day. I tend to think overly favorable about people and things when I drink. 1
CptInsano Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 I would not recommend having first-time sex with a woman who is drunk though! Even if she says yes while she's drunk. Yes, aside from the high likelihood that you only get to hold back her hair while she prays to the porcelain goddess. 1
Popsicle Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 My ex-bf's twin brother was also a drunk. Their mother, who is a big time co-dependent, claims that the brother only got married to his wife, whom the mother hates, because he was pissy drunk when they tied the knot. They've been married for about 5 years now and are still married. Mom still believes he doesn't really want to be married to her but is trapped because he was drunk when he got married. I don't buy any of this for a second and think she is in denial. 2
Author LB2016 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Posted May 9, 2017 Personally I think you get a whole lot of both. If it's deeper conversations I think it leans toward being the truth. Anything in particular that was said you are wondering about? Yes, a guy telling me he wants to be with me, be exclusive and spend more time with me. Even asking if I'd consider moving in! Then when he's sober, it's like I don't exist. I know he's got issues, some being huge ones with committment, so I always question the intentions. But based on his actions not lining up with his words when he's sober, I have to assume it's all bull****, despite his drunken confessions this weekend. That's why I was curious of what everyone thought.
elaine567 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 When drunk he lets his emotions take over, when sober his brain tells him that it is a stupid idea and so he ignores you. 1
d0nnivain Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 If it's a giggly nice thing & they act like they are telling you a secret, it might be true. If they are shouting mean things, it may be that they are a mean drunk who say anything. I've said some pretty awful things in the heat of an alcohol fueled fight, things that certainly weren't true & that I'd never say otherwise. 1
Jj66 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) In my experience things are more exaggerated. Bull **** is bigger. Truth is deeper. Attraction more intense. Belligerence more unconstrained. Edited May 9, 2017 by Jj66
Author LB2016 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Posted May 9, 2017 In my experience things are more exaggerated. Bull **** is bigger. Truth is deeper. Attraction more intense. Belligerence more unconstrained. So that can go either way in my case then. That's either his true feelings that he's getting more open and deeper with, or he's bull****ting more. Lol!
preraph Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 It may be the truth, but it is also true that if he/she was sure that's how they felt, they wouldn't just say it when drunk. Being emotional when drunk isn't necessarily that relevant if one is usually sober and doesn't go there when sober. Main thing is if someone is a mean drunk, critical, physical, too blunt, that's not good even if they're more controlled sober. 1
d0nnivain Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Yes, a guy telling me he wants to be with me, be exclusive and spend more time with me. Even asking if I'd consider moving in! Then when he's sober, it's like I don't exist. I know he's got issues, some being huge ones with committment, so I always question the intentions. But based on his actions not lining up with his words when he's sober, I have to assume it's all bull****, despite his drunken confessions this weekend. That's why I was curious of what everyone thought. Nope. It's a bunch of BS. Even if he needed the "liquid courage" to express his feelings initially, the fact that he's not owning up to them in the light of day means he is full of it. Don't believe a word he says under the influence. 1
Author LB2016 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Posted May 9, 2017 I asked him about the next day saying I didn't believe any of it and he assured me he KNOWS what he said and said it was "messed up" that I didn't believe him. But when he goes back to the same crap, how can I believe him?? I guess he's just feeding me nonsense to keep me hooked.
Gr8fuln2020 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) What's your opinion: Does the truth come out when someone is drunk OR is what is said when someone is drunk not anything to put stock in? I tend to think it's when your hear the TRUTH. Just curious of everyone else's take... I understand that it depends on the amount of alcohol consumed and each person's metabolism. I have been drunk a few times in my life and remember everything I have said (I think ) and the context in which it was said. In the end, you can never really know for sure how much is the truth or not. BUT, alcohol serves to lower one's inhibitions, so what they could be saying can certainly be what they've lacked the courage to say when sober. Just because you don't remember what you said doesn't, in any sense, mean that you didn't mean what you said when you said it. I don't give a person the benefit of the doubt to the reasoning for saying something while drunk. At that very moment you are quite aware of what you are saying. I also don't buy into any excuses by using one's inebriated state to help minimize any damage or otherwise done. Edited May 9, 2017 by simpleNfit
Thisguy21 Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Idk. I can see a girl while I'm drunk and say "look at that sexy thing, I would love to bed her" then sober I might be like "eewww! Look at that cow! I wouldn't touch her with someone else's junk" Which one would be the truth? Probably when I'm sober enough to see straight. 1
jjgitties Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Fwiw. I only get drunk with friends. And then we just talk BS and get into stupid conversations like how we should all quit our jobs and start a business. No serious or intense discussions. Just stupid stuff. I don't get drunk around my kids. I don't get drunk in front of wife. I would be a very bad drunk in that scenario. I just get drunk sometimes with good friends and I keep it at that. I never get drunk at work parties. I never get drunk at family parties. Who knows what stupid thing you might say that you will regret.
d0nnivain Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 I asked him about the next day saying I didn't believe any of it and he assured me he KNOWS what he said and said it was "messed up" that I didn't believe him. But when he goes back to the same crap, how can I believe him?? I guess he's just feeding me nonsense to keep me hooked. No what's "Messed up" is that he didn't repeat it all sober & go about reassuring you. 1
Popsicle Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I asked him about the next day saying I didn't believe any of it and he assured me he KNOWS what he said and said it was "messed up" that I didn't believe him. But when he goes back to the same crap, how can I believe him?? I guess he's just feeding me nonsense to keep me hooked. Just tell him when he says those things sober you'll believe him.
Author LB2016 Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 You're absolutely right, d0nnivain. I don't get any reassurance. Not much said AT ALL when he's sober. Just that he wants to "enjoy my company and take things slow". I'm done with that. What's scary is how "smooth" he is with his BS. It's only until the past few weeks that I'm catching on to it and seeing the whole picture. So in this case, it's safe to say when he's drunk, his words aren't genuine. He's just playing the game even more. 1
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